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The Shadow Minister for Work and Pensions, Danny Kruger
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Danny, I don't know if you got a chance to hear what we were saying or if you watched any of Glastonbury or this Bob Villan guy
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and what he came out with yesterday. What do you think about what's going on there
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Well, he's not an artist I'm familiar with, but I've heard all about him in the last few days
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Yeah, I mean, pretty disgraceful that, first, Glastonbury would host this, secondly, the BBC would broadcast it
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And thirdly, that the crowd would chant along in the way they did
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I mean, you know, some infantile artist trying to make himself famous
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by being anti-Semitic on stage is one thing. It's really distressing that so many people thought it was acceptable
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to agree with him that we should be inciting the death of IDF soldiers
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So, I mean, pretty appalling, and I hope that the police are looking into it now
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So there's already been criticism of the police that they haven't arrested this guy over
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at the appalling hate speech at Glastonbury Festival. Also comparisons being drawn with the case of Lucy Connolly who was of course jailed for 31 months last year for inciting racial hatred after publishing a post on X Can you see that comparison What do you make of that
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Is it two-tier justice? Yes, I can. Well, I think it is
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I mean, you know, I don't think that the Lucy Connolly sentence was proportionate to her offence
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It was wrong what she did, but they really threw the book at her
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and they should do the same in this case. I mean, this is, in a sense, more serious
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This was a public figure on a public stage inciting the death of others
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And, listen, I don't know what exactly the appropriate police action should be
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or what the sentence should be if this artist is convicted, but I think it is important that we take it really, really seriously
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We can't give the impression that aggressive and unpleasant messages about one side of our terrible culture war are unacceptable
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but on the other side, it's OK to say this sort of thing. So we've got to have balance and fairness
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And as I say, I think there's an aggravating factor that this was a very, very public act that this artist was performing
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Danny, what sort of message are you giving out on the benefits bill
