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I don't know if you could hear that there, but the situation is that people fleeing Mauritius because of a policy change made by the Labour government are coming into Hillingdon
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and it's going to be very, very difficult to house them. How does that make you feel
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Karen, could I start with you? People fleeing a policy decision, they could be homeless
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How do you feel? Yes, we fled, we are fleeing Mauritius because of the criminal code, and we have so many discriminations there
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We don't have opportunity to have a good job. We don't have the chance to have a good life there
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We are people, black people, it's not safe in Mauritius. Yes, we are
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When they know that we are Sargoshan, we are not safe in Mauritius
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It's an incredible situation, Steve Mandarine. Your beautiful brother was on the show last week
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I was absolutely moved to tears. I was literally moved to tears by him. What an astonishing individual
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Chagossians are proud Brits. Yes. Let's be frank. Do you consider yourselves British
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I think you guys are British as me. and yet a British Prime Minister seems to be turning his back on your community
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How do you feel? Yes, basically it's a betrayal to the British people, the taxpayers and to the Sarkozyns
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because this deal doesn't benefit anyone. It doesn't benefit the British people. It doesn't benefit the country
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The only thing that this deal is serving is serving Mauritius. And now, today, we found out the embassy, the Chinese embassy in Mauritius
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just congratulate Mauritius on securing that deal And they are looking forward to work on their trade agreement And a lot of people a lot of people are very fearful of Beijing getting closer to Mauritius because hey
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99 years to the Chinese, it's a blink of an eyelid. Exactly. And it is a strategic place where it is right in the middle
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of the Indian Ocean. And basically, we feel like this government doesn't listen to us at all
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OK, Steve and Karen, could I get a clip on screen now sent to me by Vanessa
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Yes. And this is of Chugosians. Your brother Misle was saying that he will now stand for Nigel Farage
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Seems that Chugosians may be supporting Nigel Farage because, of course, the Reform Party has said
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that they might try and tear this deal up and reverse it. An incredible situation
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Do you guys feel also that you'll be back in reform? I believe that reform is doing a great job, right
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trying to bring the country together and helping those who basically don't have a voice
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because our voice and our human right was taken from us. Karen, what about you
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I mean, it seems an unlikely political movement. Of course, people always say Nigel Farage, he's against immigration
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He's been one of the few politicians that have stuck up for you guys. Because I know that he..
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He, like you say, I know he's with us
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He's on your side. Yes. You feel like he's on your side. And I think that's something that's come through
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with all the Turgotians that have come into this studio. I feel abandoned by the establishment
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Thank you very, very much, Karen and Steve. Thank you, sir. Pleasure to have your complete thanks for coming to the studio tonight