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Don't allow Starmer to apply logic in a negotiation with the EU
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Absolutely. Most people would have turned around and said, if you want our fishing, close your borders, stop anyone from coming across
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But actually, this study and the case about those coming across on the backs of lorries hasn't gone away
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I mean, they were still coming across in smaller numbers during the period of Covid
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I remember the first time I actually saw people getting onto the backs of lorries was around 2014
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when I was out the camps in Calais. I spoke to lorry drivers who were being fined for finding people at the back of their lorries
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just as they were coming up to the French border. There was a case about that quite recently, actually
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Yeah, and lots of companies were struggling with that. And I actually did see a camp being completely pulled down by the special forces of the French police
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And they went in full batons on that and people were just running absolutely everywhere
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So the idea that it was just the boats, it's just that the boats are easier to get to
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and there's a lot more cost. What's happening is that as the summer's here
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and there's more lorries coming across, they're feeling that they can get back onto these more easily
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because it's cheaper for them. It the lowest cost level for a migrant to come over here It only about Yeah but then you might not get your hotels and all the rest of it that people have become accustomed to No that true but they
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the ones that they want to get across, so they're connected to crime. So lots of those
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who then can escape that system are then pulled in into the criminal networks
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the black economy, and many, many of those might try and claim asylum later, but they often don't
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They disappeared into the ether. And that's a dangerous security issue then for us. So
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it goes back to once more. If you want to stop the boats
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you have to do a deal with France to actually stop them coming across. We're just giving away our
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power and our leverage. Honestly, it blows my brain why people do not seem to
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either grasp nor care that surely this is one of the strongest
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bargaining chips that we have. You've identified the word. I don't mean that derogatory because a lot of
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fishermen will get in touch and say, but Michelle Well, hold on a second. Our livelihoods, everything that we do, our passion and our way of making money and all the rest of it, our industry is not a bargaining chip
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And I hear that perspective. But I mean, it was literally the only one thing of strength that we actually had in those negotiations
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We seem to have just bent over and said, take it from us. And by the way, it will essentially give you a load of money to do so
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It will adhere to all of your rules and regulations. And so on the mind boggles anyway
