WATCH: Fahima Mahomed claims Britain's immigration laws are 'only getting tougher'
Sep 26, 2025
Martin Daubney has furiously shut down claims by Fahima Mahomed on GB News after suggesting that a spike in modern slavery asylum claims is down to "one or two cases".Discussing new data on GB News, Martin declared that it is down to "thousands" of new claims being made by those entering the UK in a bid to stay.FULL STORY HERE.
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The Home Office was refused permission to appeal against a temporary injunction
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blocking an Eritrean person from being removed to France as part of its so-called one-in-one-out deal
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Now, the man argues he shouldn't be deported due to claims of modern slavery
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However, the reason is now part of a growing trend with modern slavery claims soaring by an astonishing 1,025% in the last 11 years
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with data from Stand For Our Sovereignty seen exclusively by GB News
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Well, we can now speak with the research director at the Centre for Migration Control, Rob Bates
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and also the political commentator, Fahima Mohammed, for a debate on this conversation
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Let's start with you, if we could, Rob Bates. Rob, the figures show there's been an 1,100% boom, almost
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in modern slavery claims, and that's being used by people to avoid deportation
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Is that actually happening? Or do you think this might be a ruse for people to gain the system
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and remain in the UK? Well, first of all, well done to standing for our sovereignty
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in what they've produced here. It's really a demonstration of how politicians are feeding us
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a pack of lies when they say that they're able to tackle the small boats crisis and the illegal migration crisis
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without a fundamental overhaul of the way our legal framework works, not just on the human rights law
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What we are now seeing with this data is a huge increase in the number of people that recognise that if they make claims
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under the modern slavery laws, they have a very strong chance of being able to use that as a basis to remain in the country
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And I think when you look at the sheer scale and the sheer number of countries that appear on this list
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you recognise that actually this is something that is undoubtedly being exploited. You know these are individuals that are interacting with NGOs and immigration groups that are undoubtedly advising them that this is a means through which they are able to strengthen their abilities to stay in this country So I think this is very important work and I like to commend those that produce the work
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Okay, for Hima Mohamed, let's bring you in. Are we sincerely to believe there's been an 1,100% boom in slavery
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on the European continent? Seven out of 20 of the top nations where asylum seekers in Britain
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are claiming they were enslaved are in Europe. It's France, Germany, Italy, Belgium
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I put it to you, this isn't actual slavery. It's people gaming the system
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Well, when it comes to the figures again, a lot of the referrals can be done more than once for one individual
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So that's why the numbers are quite high. And yes, there is a rise in referrals which reflect a system catching up with reality
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not one being manipulative. The Modern Slavery Act sets a high bar
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And the Home Office rejects many claims. The UK is tougher now than it's ever been
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And if we want reform, let's fix the delays and catch the traffickers, not scapegoat the actual victims
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And according to this very article we're discussing today, referrals in the UK is obviously increased, like you mentioned, by a thousand percent over the last 11 years
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But the thing is, most of that is not actually being claimed as for approval
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is actually now being rejected at the very first stage. Well, a majority are still being accepted
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And unfortunately, I think actually what the increase does show, whether or not the natural numbers being approved
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the percentage being approved have increased, is that this is now something that clearly those coming across
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on the small boat have cottoned on to And it not the first sort of loophole that we seen being exploited in this scale We of course seen Christian conversions We of course seen people making claims that they homosexuals and therefore can be removed to their country origin as well
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or they'd face persecution. I think this is a real trend here, that we have such an ambiguous
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and extensive legal framework here that it's very easy for canny left-wing lawyers
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and NGOs to really start exploiting this and start exploiting the actual goodwill
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and the intent behind some of the legislation. And you talk about requiring a high evidential threshold
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is actually really just requiring the balance of probabilities to suggest that there is some likelihood of modern slavery taking place
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Now, that really effectively, as this article does very correctly point out, effectively leads it up to the discretion of one Home Office official
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to produce best guesswork as to whether this is actually an individual suffering slavery or not
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So, you know, there's a lot that we need to do to actually reform this because people are sick of seeing our borders being exploited
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and we need to have a very frank conversation. We can't afford to be the social care worker for the rest of the world
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and the rest of the world's problems. No, I don't think that you understand that the law is not by left-wing lawyers
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It is from the UK, you know, high government that has set the law and it's been only uphold in that way
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And the process is anything but automatic or easy. In fact, it is long and complex and governed by some of the toughest anti-slavery laws in the world
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But Fahima, that's kind of the point. It takes two years minimum to process this claim
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and some people are saying for Hayman if I may, that allows people while they're in the country
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to lay down foundations to have family and then article 8 kicks in
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and as far as the refusal rate goes it used to be
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as high as 90% of people 90% who claim bottom slavery were granted indefinitely to remain it still 58 it still a highly effective method of staying in the country And the point of the conversation today is is the system being gamed I don think it being
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gamed. It's just really the rule of law, not manipulation. If serious offenders avoid deportation
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it's only because the UK's laws must allow certain articles and they don't walk free
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Offenders still serve sentences in the UK and remain under strict monitoring. Okay
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They are rare and not routine. High-profile cases are exceptions. And we sometimes take one or two cases and we make it as if it's all the immigrants and it's all of them
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Just like we do that for everyone when it comes to certain individuals from certain countries
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It's like one person does something and that reflects the entire community
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And that's not right and that's not fair. You cannot just pinpoint and take one or two cases and make it like it's just everyone
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If anything, this highlights that there are victims out there. It's not one or two cases. There's been a 1,025% increase in 11 years
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That's not one or two cases. It's thousands of them. But like I said, not all of them are being actually gone on there
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Like you said, there's only half of them that are actually being approved and they still have to be investigated
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So we can go back and forth on this. But the UK law is tough and it's only getting tougher
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I'm just of the view that if we're not even able to remove an individual to France
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were not even able to deport an illegal migrant to France, then something is clearly wrong with the law
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And unfortunately, this is something that has been in place now for 10 years and is escalating on a ski-scope level increase
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Both of you, I'm afraid we have to leave it there. I'm sorry, we simply have a run out of time
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We've got a fantastic guest. That's why next I have to move on. Rob Bates, thank you very much, and also to Fahima Mohammed
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