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all right hey sorry we disconnected there I knew that was probably going to

happen all right if you're just joining back on the live stream I this is my first time doing a live stream and I

wanted to figure out and test everything fortunately I had Brandon from white pepper Farms if

you're not following that channel he is awesome in the freeze Dr space right now

we've been chatting a lot back and forth unfortunately he told me that uh the

chat really wasn't working but then it caught up to him so if you are just now joining thank you for re joining back

this is a live stream of the freeze dried business Channel we're talking everything about freeze drying is freeze

drying as a business the reason I wanted to do this live stream is because I wanted to

provide you access to myself to ask questions and I do have have Consulting

sessions I have things that I that I offer people if you want to ask specific questions about your business but I also

want to give that as well um I'm a real person I live in boy Idaho boy State

Broncos and if you are interested in starting a freeze drying business or you

have a freeze drying business and you just have questions I'm a you know I'm a business owner myself I've owned my

business it's called freeze dry Depot I've owned my business for over four years I started it back in the pandemic

that's what the previous live stream was about too is I was talking about my

story with my freeze dry business probably to summarize quicker

than what you prob probably were listening to is really short summary my

wife lost her job I needed to find supplemental income I had a friend whose

wife worked with my wife in medical and he had some co-workers in this fire

department that had freeze dryers but they were using it for food prep and

sorry I keep swalling but my mouth is really dry I need water but uh uh they were doing food prep for you know uh

prepping for uh disasters just like the pandemic obviously that was good timing uh but also just for food

preservation one of those people mentioned to him that there's people selling freeze-dried candy like they're

they're freeze drying candy and then selling it on online places like Etsy

Facebook Marketplace things like that so we were talking about what to do as a side business to supplement

income and while we were working out together in his garage I was like oh

well you know he does some finished carpentry work so we were exploring that like how do we get some jobs through that I actually started working for Papa

John's doing pizza delivery uh I had done that in the past I actually made really good money and it's kind of like

mindless work you know it's it's kind of like being an Uber driver you you're just like hey I just drive in my car

listen to music chill talk to different people I'm a pretty social guy so it was

actually a really good gig and it's kind of that competitiveness like if you've ever done delivery driving or anything

like that in the service side it's kind of like this really like hustle mentality because you want to get the

deliveries to someone just in case you're wondering and you purchased from someone buying Pizza um you know those

delivary drivers they they want to maximize as much time in the peak hours

as possible to deliver pizzas because that's when you make all your money so between 5: pm and 7:30 p.m. is really

like peak times and so if you could deliver let's say four to six deliveries

an hour I mean that's pretty good because on average you're you know maybe you're making five five bucks per per uh

delivery so that's you know that's 30 bucks an hour if you're delivering six pizzas plus your plus your hourly rate

so you're kind of you're you're making better money on that time so anyway I was doing that it's kind of a side

tangent but that was what I was doing and then he mentioned that people were selling freeze-dried candy on Etsy and given my kind of background and

advertising that's what I've been my whole doing my whole career um I was like oh man like I'm seeing a lot I'm

seeing like H I never even heard of this I actually ordered from someone who had

an Etsy store you can look this up today Susie's Pantry she had sold like eight

or 10,000 orders because on Etsy on the Etsy store you can see someone's orders

uh on there and I was like 8,000 10,000 orders now I think how they track that is more

of the individual item by the way if you're watching this live stream just to before I finish on the su's pantry thing

if you want to chat with me uh it's open to anybody so if if you want to send me

a message I'm looking at it right here and once that message comes in I'm happy

to answer them for you if you've got questions about what freeze dryers to buy if youve got questions about things

that are not getting answered or you're seeing on these I'm on by the way I'm on

these Facebook groups just as much as everybody else and there's a lot of noise there so this is your opportunity

to talk to me directly and I can help kind of filter out that noise and answer your question based on my experience and

I'm kind of giveing you my experience my credentials is I have a freeze dry business I'm telling the origin story of

this so anyway I saw an opportunity ordered from Susie's Pantry it's a shop

on Etsy I got ice cream freeze-dried ice cream I got freeze dried Skittles I was

like man this is fantastic so I saw an opportunity and we purchased

a freeze dryer and around maybe it was like July of 2020 Harvest Right was accelerating in

their business and they still are they were the only freeze dryer in town and

that was the only way to start a business because you had to have a freeze dryer but they were 12 weeks out from you getting your freeze dryer and

you had to pay up front so we had to front out that large freeze dryer that that was the biggest size that they

had that's why also I partnered up with my friend because you know 4500 bucks

was kind of expensive at the time so I we both split the cost bought bags

bought St we tried to figure out our logo things like that and we bought the freeze dryer it delivered to us around

October in that time frame we figured out our brand name which was freeze dry Depot um also we figured out our bags

and packaging we started testing different things we knew we wanted to do Skittles we knew also we wanted to try

ice cream and fruit so that was our kind of our three categories week after Thanksgiving we

launched our business great timing by the way um because it led into the holidays we really kind of focused our

marketing on the Elf on the Shelf um type of feature so the elf would bring

North Pole treats you know Freez dried candy things like that that you go and find the from the North Pole we made

back our our total investment from the free large freeze dryer to the bags the

insurance the LLC registration um all the products and everything like that that we bought 7500

bucks I'm actually going to share that um if you are on this live stream and

you're able to chat at or message me um let me know if

you want to know kind of what my startup cost was because I have all that ACC archived uh and $7,500 was what we

invested in that's everything to kind of launch the business officially um and also to be able to

scale um I'll tell you this and and and some of you who have started a freeze drying business this is what gets you

excited about it and it's what a lot of people don't understand about the freeze drying business is it's pretty minimal

cost to get into it and also see Su and a lot of people see success may not be

as much money as I made in the amount of time because it's been four years A lot of people are doing it

now I made back that $7,500 in four weeks and that really kind of just like

made the the wheels turn in terms of our entrepreneurial mindset so when you make

$7,500 in four weeks with a business that you had no idea about but you see

something that PE that's catching on it's natural for you to say let's go for it so after that came about we kind of

looked at our finances we took basically all the budget and we paid cash for um

two more freeze dryers that's what we did in that time frame while we were waiting 12 more weeks for those freeze

dryers to arrive we were signing on new wholesale accounts we knew we had to get

into commercial kitchen so we kind of talked to our local health authority that all that type of thing um

everyone hey first live stream 13 people awesome thank you for joining me my

name's David I'm Freeze Drive business owner I'm also the host of the freeze Drive business Channel I started this

channel to dra to talk to you specifically I want to give back I want to talk to you about your business if

you have questions I'm hoping that the chat is available I do know that uh it's

been a little bit slow for people to actually send a chat over

so bear in mind that I'm trying to work on this live stream and I want to make sure that the

chat is working and if it's not I'm going to figure out some other way but um where was I 2021 so 2020 made

back our freeze dryer made back all of our investment 2021 bought two more freeze dryers got them around March

meanwhile we were building out different relationships with different wholesale people

by the end of 2021 kind of the Fall heading into our second holiday period

we had seven freeze dryers we had a commercial kitchen it was very

busy and we also I my first kid was born uh

in October 2020 my second kid we ended up getting pregnant around 20 late

2021 um and anyway things got busy my business partner and I he also has a

small kid and life just got busy ended up selling a couple of freeze dryers went down about three freeze dryers and

he parted ways I took a Hiatus for my business from about February 20122 all

the way through the summer had people asking me you know why we stopped maybe like can we start back up again um and

so I asked my buddy I'm like you know hey is it okay if I continue doing this um um just because I enjoyed it and one

of the things that I I recognized early on in starting this business is why why

I started this channel is in July this this coming month July 29th or ju July

27th was my first video that I ever posted on this channel and I posted about doing High CH had no idea what I

was doing but I knew I wanted to give people a video sense of how to run a

freeze drying business or actually just a day in the life so I started the channel and that actually kind of revigor me to continue my freeze drying

business because I was like hey you know I enjoy making videos while also I'm

freeze drying candy freeze drying ice cream freeze drying fruit building relationships and I've learned it all

along the way and I'm still to this day loving the freeze-dried

industry and I'm probably the one person on a lot of these forums that are like

this is just the tip of the iceberg a lot of people if you're watching this right now and you're like should I start

a business man it looks like everyone's selling freeze-dried candy well yeah I mean a lot of people are I knew that

that was going to happen and but that that's proof of concept though like now

we have this huge industry and it's not even saturated I mean that means that everyone's had their fill of candy

that's not true either so um also you've seen a lot of people use um Power

powders so uh with freeze drying your fruit can become a powder very easily

with freeze drying candy can be crushed now and you could have a flavored type of candy of something uh people are

using it for ice cream toppings all that type of stuff so the evolution of freeze

drying in terms of creativeness for you to be an entrepreneur is wide open right now it's kind of the Wild West

still which is awesome but it is an opport for you and that's why I started

this channel thanks for joining me if you're on if you're on the live stream right now this is my first ever live

stream I'm planning on doing more of these I was actually sitting my desk right now um I actually have my work

computer on the other side and um yeah I I I wanted to hop on because

I'm like you know sometimes I get as a Creator I don't if you're if you don't if you don't have a YouTube channel or

you don't know somebody as YouTu YouTube channel either you're passionate about it or not some people have been in it a

long time you know it's it's there's all you develop this pressure to like release a video all the time it just

what it is I think what's happening more so now with with video and with the with

all of our social media platforms is people want to be more real and authentic and just hop on a live

stream and I've done some povs like point of views videos but you know I'm

just not a ve I'm not a good video editor so I wanted to hop on to this live stream because I'm like this is more me I can talk to you I've got my

microphone I've got my webcam and you can ask questions to me this is what I like and so that's what

I'm going to try to do more if you're on this live stream um I'd I don't know have any I

don't have any way to know whether the chat function is working um but it is open for you to

send a message to me right now I can't see anything it says something went wrong with the chat so I can't see

anything with that um something you could

do for me is you could email me actually

uh email me at David Freez depot.com if

you're on this live stream that's Again David at Freez dried Depot

if you want to email me and just let me know if you are seeing the chat and if you

have sent chats over that would be great because I'll probably end this live stream if I can't chat with you all and

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what it's showing so anyways

um thank you all for joining this live stream again if you're you're on this

live stream I just asked if you would email me David freey depo.com to let me

know if you're able to send a chat if you've already submitted one that would be great to know too um this is what

this live stream is about I want to be able to see uh hear from you I want you

to talk to me ask me questions bounce ideas off one of the things that I

wanted to discuss on this channel too for this live stream is it's you know a

lot of time this is a great advice that I got I I studied business

entrepreneurship actually at boy State University home of the blue Turf if you're ever ever familiar with college

football I started entrepreneur management and one of the first things

that I heard that I if I took anything from that class it was entrepreneurship

101 Professor I can't believe I remember this but his name was Jeff

sugar and you know imagine him being in this class of all these freshmen you

know 19 18 19 year olds all inspiring to be

entrepreneurs and he said something to me he said um

okay somebody actually just said go to live stream and see the

chat oh gotcha here we

go hey I see the chat now awesome

okay yep somebody just told me hey you know what just uh go to this live stream so I'm gonna I I

can now see all of your chats for some reason

um what was happening is on my view here like in my YouTube

studio um I'm not seeing the chat so I'm gonna have two different types of

windows open now um so that I can see all your chat so hey it only took me

what um 17 minutes figure this

out all right so one second

here yeah

um yeah everyone's emailing me hey go to the go to the live stream

[Laughter] please all right

I've got four minutes just stopping by thanks white pepper Farms that's the last one I saw okay yep seeing a bunch

of seeing a bunch of chats let's see here hey David it's Ryan from freeze

frenzy hope you're having a good time awesome to see you um

cringy I can't uh can't probably say on YouTube the the word for want for your

handle but uh awesome to see you uh z uh R now okay you said uh which

freeze dryer would you recommend for an entrylevel commercial freeze dryer other than Harvest Right

HRC great question so if you are on this stream awesome to to see you um thank

you for joining this is exactly what I wanted to talk about too is if you have questions I'm going to try to answer

these and I'm I'm actually going to go beyond this so I'm going to go all the way till 3:15 mountain time okay so I'm going to

go for another 20 minutes and try to answer all these questions to answer your questions about commercial freeze

dryers HRC 100 is less than 10,000 bucks I can't honestly recommend another

commercial freeze dryer that can do 100 pounds because I I do think that you'll make up

the money with a commercial freeze dryer later on but for right now if you're not ready to

invest in a $150,000 freeze dryer then I think the HRC 100 is going to be the

best fit and I also think you gotta think about this too even myself I'm looking at

purchasing an HRC 100 and so you got to look at the resale value too A lot of

people can probably want to buy that HRC 100 from you so for me I like the HRC

100 I'm not sponsored by Harvest Right an affiliate of them meaning like I'm

only Affiliates for people that I would recommend I'm also an affiliate of blue Alpine stay fresh um just because I'm

I'm running a Channel about freeze drying as a business so I want to be able to recommend freeze dryers that are

going to do the best and perform for you as a business and right now Harvest

Right has the XL Harvest has the HRC 100 for the best affordable price for what you're going to do with it I know

they've got different types of issues I've got one freeze dryer that's just like anybody else who has freeze issues

with Harvest but I also have three other ones that have done great so that's my

answer to you now if you want to look at a commercial grade freeze dryer I would suggest looking at Parker freeze dry you

can also look at a company that I just talked to I'm actually going to be speaking I'm going to be releasing the

podcast episode It's called Tech Source systems and I can get you in contact

with the the person that I interviewed and talked to really knowledgeable guy

so if you want to email me um I've got links to that in my channel links so let

me know about that I hope that answers that Meredith welcome I hope you're still on

here um Marth you said I don't want to sell candy only fruits vegetables and Exotics like finger limes other types of

fruits do you think it's feasible to make a decent income without selling candy meals

yes it is it's competitive in fruit in fact I did a podcast interview with Yo's

froo bites if you haven't checked out my podcast it's called frozen assets I'm focusing on

entrepreneurs people in the freeze draing space it's on a playlist on my channel hasal Noah is the owner of Yo's

fro vites he takes frozen yogurt makes them into Swirls and then he freeze

dries them one of the things that he said um when we were talking is he showed me

not in the interview but when I wasn't recording he showed me his house and he

showed me probably 40 different freeze-dried fruit companies that he's purchased fruit from so it's very

competitive but um one of the things that I've been wanting to do is I've

been wanting to be the Idaho freeze-dried fruit go-to company that's

kind of if I was going to pursue my business a little bit more heavy which right now I'm just super super busy

that's what I want to do so I'd encourage you to do that you know you don't have to um go into meals you don't

have to go into candy um something that you could explore also is if you

like uh vegetables fruits and Exotics things like that try working with those

types of things and what could what applications could they do for powders

because with freeze drying you're taking all the water out and as you know it come becomes crunchy well also becomes

like a powder if you crunch it down so try to experiment with different recipes

to coat something else in that flavor um maybe it's something to make a

smoothie out of maybe it's something to add have as additives maybe you can find

a bakery or something like that where it's like that's maybe your core audience is selling to people who want

to buy um something in bulk from you um so

you know people who sell FL and sugars and Frost and make frostings things like that maybe that's maybe your customer

you know so I would explore that hope that's helping I'm gonna go to the very bottom and see what people are saying

here okay awesome um I'm I'm going to the last couple of

um questions here um by the way I'm

just I'm making sure I'm still doing this live

stream yeah looks like I am um yeah awesome

okay yeah awesome all right now I've got my actual live

stream and I've got the chat open

cool okay so some of the latest Z are now awesome glad there is

uh cringy uh you're there's many different types of settings depending on what you're

doing um oh yeah you guys are talking about differences in in recipes yeah yeah

there are um in fact I have the stay fresh freeze dryer and reason I bought that last year

around this time is I wanted to have a different freeze dryer I've had Harvest Right I recommend Harvest Right but stay

fresh is new I'm also working with blue to hopefully to get um one of their freeze dryers for a couple months they

live in Idaho he wanted the owner Cory if you haven't checked out that podcast

he wanted to uh send me one just because he's like hey you know test it out um

you know see what it's like all freeze dryers are going to act different it brings up a good point too think about

what you're purchasing I mean right now Harvest Right is the one who produced a

freeze dryer for all of us to own in our home they did not build the freeze dryer

for businesses for a business to be started it happened that that's something that's booming that's why I

started this channel that's why I started my business but they didn't build the freeze dryer for us to be

running at 247 365 days a year that's what the commercial grade freeze dryer

companies designed Theirs to do so you have to kind of look at all these

different freeze dri S I kind of go off on these tangents obviously I was talking about the safe fresh now I'm

talking about my philosophy and all these things but that's what these live streams are for right but think about that when you're

assessing and re and hearing all the noise it's not about

um yeah these freeze dryers can break down but think about it I mean they like

these freeze dryers are meant for food preservation home use um and now we're

all using using them us meaning people who are running a start a business are using them to run them non-stop so we

have to kind of take it with a grain of salt now given that um I've really liked my stay fresh freeze dryer it hasn't had

uh any vacuum error issues but again it's been only been a year old I didn't have vacuum issues with my Harvest rats

um probably for at least well my my stepchild Harvest Right my one uh I had

it didn't that didn't happen for about a year and a half or so so but you know if I downloaded the data I probably had you

know 60 to 100 Cycles going through that um Fruit

Friends oh Meredith okay awesome yeah thanks for staying on here

and um and and those and staying on to the live stream if you're just joining

this live stream my name's David I'm the host of the freeze dry business Channel I also have a business called freeze dry

Depot I want to be more accessible to all of you so I'm starting these live streams I was literally like sitting at

my desk right here and I was like I should just hop on the live stream I should just hop on here talk to people

give you an opportunity to ask me questions um you know I I'm a I have a

lot of things going on if you don't know my background you watch my videos I've got a freeze-dried business freeze-dried

Depot I probably spend 12 12 or 15 hours a week doing that business because got

eight different wholesale clients um I'm using it for this channel things like that I've also got this

channel if you don't if you don't have a YouTube channel if you don't have any

like social media presence that you're actively doing um or you don't know somebody who has a YouTube channel I'll

tell you this after two years of running this it's another type of like side job now I love this I actually want to go

full-time with this uh YouTube channel by the end of this year that's my goal

um and it's all G to be thanks to you guys who are watching this um sticking with me watching my videos um clicking

on the affiliate links for commissions and things like that um I really appreciate that um because I'm very

passionate about the freeze dry industry I've done advertising and marketing for my entire career and I want there's

there's just nobody connecting the freeze dried industry at all right now there's no magazine there there's

homesteading there are uh people doing doing it for their own businesses but

I'm just trying to connect you all like I've I've now I now probably have on my

on my fingers now I now know about 7 to eight different freeze dryers companies that I didn't know about when I started

this Channel all I knew about was Harvest Right um if you've paid attention to my

my podcast I've been interviewing these entrepreneurs you know I I want to

basically be a publisher for the freeze drying industry I want to be able to go to

shows so that I can find these different companies feature them give you

inspiration for being an entrepreneur um news updates recalls all that type of stuff

that's what I want to do um went off a little tangent on that one how many machines do you have currently uh I have

four four machines three Harvest Right large freeze dryers and one stay fresh

the stay fresh I have the the original that they had because they came out with another larger

one um but I am looking at Blue Alpine as well blue Alpine

um has said that they might uh let me have one for a couple months so I can

test it out Ryan says how do I Branch out into wholesale what is the typical markdown

for customers who buy wholesale um great question

um it's being a sales a sales professional I would go to your local

area and first first thing for wholesale is I'd probably go

into um like build like a PDF or a work go into like Google

Docs and kind of like build a table or a line sheet of what type of products

you're going to offer wholesale people one thing that people get probably caught up on and I thought that I had to

do was I had to list out all of my SKS all of my information like all the products you don't have to do that for

wholesale you could say hey here's all of my products that um I can

do uh fairly easily let's say or here's my best uh you know margins so maybe

that's what you want to offer for wholesale so then once you have that

sheet because you want to be prepared is I would start talking to like local

relationships um and hight traffic areas so look at small boutiques that feature

local businesses already so if you've got that type of store that's like let's

say you're in IA or you're in Texas and they feature Texas local things then

that's kind of a good probably place to be um you and then so I would look at

that other wholesale that you could look at is um obviously other stores gas

stations um you could look at um maybe event type of places so people that have

concerts um places that um you know I'm thinking of like you know horse tracks

uh casinos um you know just stuff like that like think of the hight traffic areas where people are going to consume

stuff um that's where you want to look what's the typ what's the typical

markdown for customers who buy wholesale um typically what you're seeing you're

going to see is um wholesale people want to see anything between 40 and 50% markup like meaning they want to mark up

your product 40 50% so they're going to ask for 40 to 50% discount on your

product um I would actually ask them I would ask the people that you're looking at for wholesale and say you know hey

what what do what are your what are your wholesale like vendors right now pay or

discount their product and and then you can kind of know where you're branching off instead

of giving the uh giving it away right away of what your discounts going to

be uh just ask them you know what they currently

do Meredith says I'm on the recipe section of your website but I can't see any recipes only category descriptions

is their recipe book for sale working on that uh thanks Meredith I am working on that

um a resource right now I would do is um

if you're not following the YouTube channel it's called retired at 40 live life

simple I I've actually talked to Ryan uh you had a Brian there and uh he's got a

book recipe book that he's put himself into I don't know if I'm going to go down that path honestly I'm working on

kind of a different spin on it that I'm going to work on um it's going to be

more about like how to use a recipe for a business like how to make bulk of it

um that type of thing but great question I would suggest you going to um Amazon

or go directly to him although I love Amazon by the way um

they do take a huge cut from people who try to sell it who are local so if you can go direct with someone like live

life simple I would go to his YouTube channel his website and he's actually got a recipe membership website he's

also got some recipe books too okay going back up uh for some

people hopefully you're still on the live stream K's Corner how do you figure in pricing great

question I have a spreadsheet um that I released uh that I actually it's been

almost so you're in process if you're not an email sub a subscriber of my email list um I'm trying to be more

proactive in that because you know although YouTube is a great outlet for me you know I'm able to get in touch

with all of you if I have something to talk about via email a lot more quickly

so go to my YouTube channel and go to the the links um the channel links

you'll see my website but you'll also see it says the um the profits spreadsheet click on that

and subscribe and it'll send an automated email with my spreadsheet there in that spreadsheet you'll be able

to put in one your cost for your individual bags for a particular product

and then you'll also be able to put in any type of price that you want to sell it at so to answer your question you

don't really have to um you know know the price right now you could just kind of figure in like hey hey I want to test

this price out here's how much money I'd have left over for my other expenses or my

profit great question

right cringy says yeah I'm going back down to the bottom of the chat what would you recommend a HRC 100 or an

extra large for a starting point in commercial uh extra large

reason I'd say an extra large from Harvest Right is because it can do for

candy you know I I I like being conservative probably 30 to 40 pounds of

candy so in my extra large freeze dryer I can do about 10 to 12 pounds of

Skittles sorry in my large freeze dryer so think about that in the amount of time that's going to take you to do um

30 pounds of freeze-dried Skittles I can only do that um I have to do three

Cycles which means that's if let's say the average to do uh freeze dried

Skittles is let's say three hours in total that's nine hours that i' it it

take me to do equivalent of one cycle for the extra large the extra large

night is going to be nice for you because has good resell value and also

is going to allow you to scale um and not feel like you have to buy another freeze dryer so I hope that

answers your question HRC 100 um again under $110,000 but until

you have the demand I wouldn't buy

that let's see if you're just joining this live stream I'm going to be live

for um maybe another 10 minutes so um

I'll try to do another one of these this has been fun but if you're just joining thanks for joining um my name is David I'm the

host of the freeze Drive business Channel I'm just answering your questions so if you hit up the chat I'm trying to answer them um I finally

figured it out so I gotta figure out how to get the the chats in my studio area

so I don't have to have two browser windows open cringy you said I currently have

four mediums so it'll be a big jump for me four mediums yeah

um I don't know can you sell to two of those mediums for 2,000 bucks each

that's 4,000 then all all you have to come up with is 6,000 to get the HRC 100

um you know I would probably keep one of your mediums so that you can do some testing so you don't have to run a huge

cycle in the HRC 100 HRC 100 by the way too is going to be a larger uh

requirement for power um even though it's just the size of like a stand up freezer but you got

to have the power for it so think about about that Lee says I run a freeze dried pet

business in Wisconsin mainly selling wholesale I have an HRC I have an uh

Harvest medium Pro selling about 20 bags a week thinking about getting a seven Trace stay fresh soon yep perfectly fine

um 20 bags a week hey let's set a goal um let's try to get to

40 you can do it um you know some speaking of the seven tray stay

fresh and also Harvest rate when they re release the pro version of their freeze

dryer you know in my personal opinion yeah the software maybe had kind

of changed other things but really all I saw was they basically made the same

size freeze dryer but they just added another tray layer so in my large freeze

start I've got five trays now they have six it's just a lower surface area for the trays to go into so um I could still

do Jolly Ranchers let's say the whole Jolly Rancher so not cutting it up I

could still do that and the puffed up Jolly Rancher isn't going to touch the next shelf but in the pro version it

would touch it same with the stay fresh too I think so you gotta kind of think

about what type of candies you're going to do and if you want to have a lot variety I would I would just invest in

um another shelf unit so get what comes with it but maybe invest in whatever the

cost is to have um a swap out so if you want to do something that expands more you actually have that to

expand um let's see

just looking at something real quick here um David any okay hey thanks

everyone for joining we're going to wrap up here soon but feel free to put in your questions cently in the process okay

lelle question candy is Hit or Miss sometimes the candy

overexpanded that's my first the only ones that you don't want to do 140

degrees is Jolly Ranchers my sweet spot for Jolly Ranchers has been 135

degrees um I haven't done this yet but I've been reading on the Facebook

groups that Harvest Right is now telling you that if you make a modification with

the customization in your software U by pressing like the the flower looking leaf logo you can switch the the tray

warming uh program to what they call either A or B something so like whatever

it is right now you switch it over to the other one and apparently people are seeing now that like the trays are

individually warming or something like that I'm going to look more into that and ask Harvest right but that's what I

would look into go to the Facebook groups and just maybe type in the search bar for those Facebook groups and and

type in like uh Harvest Right uh switch to b or something like that

and then it'll U probably deliver a post that somebody made so in Harvest Right

freeze dryers the sensor for heat um for

the trays is on the second to lowest tray um

area I was told that when I visited the headquarters at Harvest right so

naturally like in physics you know it's like the the Heat's going to travel up but it's going

to get cooler as it travels up right so you're naturally going to see like the

basically the the the freeze dryer chamber is not seeing is not recognizing

that that top tray and that bottom tray are not as like hot as the middle ones

so unfortunately that's just the way they they designed it um so what I do is

I kind of just say if I'm going to do something that's going to puff up like gummies or Jolly Ranchers um I just pretty much know that

it's going to be kind of a a cross your fingers on the bottom and the top tray and unfortunately that's just the way it

is but I heard that there's a fix um by switching the software so check that

out hope that answers that Mr Eastwood David any thoughts on

the Chinese freeze jars from Alibaba yeah my thoughts is don't buy them

uh I mean a lot of things from China we all consume here in the US

right um all the freeze dryer companies by the way are buying parts from

China the difference is is like are they doing quality control and assembling them in America okay so some of them are

some of them are not uh but a Chinese made freeze dryer getting

shipped over here and you see a price point of $800 when you know that the

established ones here are $2,500 at a minimum and they work that's where I

guess my opinion would be i' I I'd have a hard pass on it right now until I had better

information cringy what do you think about a big company what do you think about big

companies getting into the free dry candy business like Skittles I've heard some rumors um I actually had someone

email me and I answered this in a in a great way and uh when I release my podcast uh with um when I release the

next video about for my podcast this coming weekend um you'll hear from the guy in that Gene we talked

about this Mars Wrigley who owns

Skittles um by the way if you if your Costco and Sam's Club still has those

tubs of Skittles that's awesome here in boisee I've haven't been able to buy those tubs of skills for about three

months the demand is super high right now so Mars Wrigley is trying to produce

more Skittles let alone produce a new product called freeze drying

Skittles probably the rumor that you're hearing is yes they probably are going to be developing their own freeze-dried

candy um a freeze dried Skittle but think about Mars Wrigley they're a

publicly traded company they have to one propose that

put that in a forecast model they have to go through legal to make sure that they get their trademark their copyright

they have to find the facilities they have to find all the workers they have to figure out their distribution

channels so they are definitely have a lot bigger of a process to get through

before it's going to be released it is going to be released like I mean think about all all

of us selling freeze-dried Skittles huge Market um who it's going to impact is

all the big companies that you see selling freeze-dried Skittles right now

um which you know I'm all seeing congrats them but um they are either

going to be probably priced out um so they're going to have to

figure out something else or skills may contact them and force them to sign a

licensing agreement to sell and manufacture freeze stred Skittles for them uh probably that removes at least

30% of their margin too so um that's the two things that I'm predicting is that

those two things are going to happen Mars rley will come out with freeze dried Skittles um but it'll happen in two

different ways either one they will price everybody out of the market and then all their distribution channels

will buy them directly because they don't want to lose the original candies contracts um and then the larger freeze

drag candy companies that are selling freeze DED Skittles today that you see in Target that you see in Walmart that

you see in all these big places they will become either uh makers of freeze

Strat Skittles with a licensing agreement with from Mars Wrigley or they probably will have to just

uh pay them a huge licensing fee to do it uh themselves or something like that

so that's my

prediction um I'm gonna have to wrap up here so um just looking at some of these uh

Deborah says uh what about candy pecans do they freeze dry or doesn't um nuts

don't really freeze dry they're already kind of hard um I don't really see the point in that it's kind of like coffee

right like it's like oh no I can make it in a powder form well you you know like

you can already make ground up coffee you know freeze drying coffee doesn't really make any sense

um okay so yeah uh a couple more questions are

coming in pting foam core my husband uh is

worried I'm wearing out the machine with candy we bought a medium five tray Harvest Right February and preserve to

preserve food not candy I do wanted to F oh I wouldn't worry about well in my

opinion uh Kim I wouldn't worry about um uh wearing out the

machine in my opinion um but yes if

you're going to run it more often with those shorter Cycles you're going to have more usage

of the pump you're going to have more Cycles therefore having to change out the the oil of the pump um you're

running at high temperatures then low temperatures uh you're running running for long and then running for short so

yeah um is it gonna have more time on it yes but um I don't think you have to

worry about that too much what's the cost of electricity and freeze drying I

usually equate about $ four to5 dollars per cycle with candy it's you know you could cut that in half so maybe two

bucks um that's about how I do it all depends on where you live okay well

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