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Is Your Freeze-Dried Candy Business Doomed? Major NEWS
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May 15, 2025
If you've been freeze-drying candy, you probably have explored freeze-drying candies such as the Jolly Ranchers or Skittles. Within the past week, the companies making these highly recognizable candies announced plans to launch their freeze-dried versions in early 2025. How will this impact the existing freeze-dried candy industry? Is this the beginning or end to selling branded freeze-dried candies in your business? How should you pivot your business today to prepare for these major launches in 2025? This video will discuss these questions and more. If you missed the live stream, leave a comment and let me know what your concerns or questions are about this news. Hershey Article: https://candyusa.com/cst/hershey-highlights-innovations-category-insights-at-2024-nacs-show-expo/ Mars Article: https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/mars-introduces-skittles-popd-freeze-dried-candy-as-newest-innovation-302275792.html Stay connected with more freeze-drying news and business strategies by subscribing to my email community. Visit the website below and join today! 🌐 Website: https://freezedriedbusiness.com
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all right hello everyone if you're joining the stream welcome to another
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stream I haven't done this for probably a month and a half um just been busy with life and um hey Northern old bear
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from Northern California boy yo hello yes my name is David I host this YouTube
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channel called the freeze-dried business if you're new here welcome and uh I'm I live in Boise Idaho lived here my entire
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life graduated from Boise State University they're doing really well in college football right now so there's a
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lot of great Buzz around the city um I remember back when I graduated um and
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this probably dates me a little bit but I graduated in 2008 uh from Boise State and right after
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that was Kell Moore Kell Moore is the winningest FBS quarterback in history he
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I think he only lost three games in his entire football career and so uh anyway
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that was very exciting times they got up to ranked number three in the country um and uh anyway we haven't really had that
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much success since then now success is relative to everyone right but um in
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terms of that level we haven't really been ranked this High uh since then no doubt so anyway enough about that what
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we're going to talk about today in today's stream which was in the thumbnail the and the title which is a
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very strategic width is there's been some major announcements with two of the
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major candy makers uh across the C country of the United States as well as the world and
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if you haven't really check that out um those articles out they're actually in
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the video description of this live stream so check those out and you can kind of follow along um hey what's
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up white pepper Farms hello what's going on uh glad you joined
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and uh hey if you haven't checked out his channel awesome you freeze drying Channel um good shout out there so what
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we're going to talk about is the two major announcements I'll get to that shortly I do have kind of a a couple
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other topics so I'm going to give you my thoughts on what the actual announcement was and U kind of my opinion on it just
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because I've been in the freeze drying space and um I know that a lot of you guys um who pay attention to my videos
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want to kind of hear what I'm thinking and then I'm also going to turn it on you as well uh for some Q&A we'll talk
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about those articles and maybe just kind of brainstorm you know what are we supposed to do if we run a small
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business um even a larger business what are we supposed to do when a huge candy maker like this gets into the freeze
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drying space so we'll talk about that and then um I'm I'm gonna basically be live until about um for about another
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yeah hey Brandon uh yeah white pepper Farms awesome spent the last 15 minutes jumping in those articles awesome um
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Libra hey medium Harvest Right Pro gets on Monday hope hope to get there soon awesome uh congratulations on getting
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your first freeze dryer that's awesome um let's see just got my first freezer a couple weeks ago awesome old
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bear thanks for joining um and U and again I'm checking all these different
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uh chats as well so go ahead and leave leave a chat in this stream and uh Kevin
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you're from boy Idaho welcome uh you are saying will you be coming out with recipes um yes I I am trying to come out
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with more recipes I'm actually I I got done with the the video shoot um uh from
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my kitchen uh actually using powderized fruit because I do a lot of fruit and
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I've actually noticed a lot of from Brandon from white pepper Farms he does a lot of great recipes with powder
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and so I wanted to do some things with some baking from some of my my mom's uh
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recipes for baking so we'll be you'll be seeing those videos um if you if you
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don't if you want to look at more recipes for freeze drying and just kind of wanting to know explore there is uh
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Freez drying supplies.com that's the live life simple it's Brian's Channel he's actually got two volumes of
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cookbooks for freeze drying it's called the freeze drying cookbook so go over to him
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and he's got a lot of different recipes but I will be coming out with more content about that more people are
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joining hey from Minnesota Nebraska awesome thanks for joining okay so let's
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get into this um and then that way we can spend more time with your questions so if you've clicked on the articles
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that Mars Wrigley came out with as well as Hershey they're in the video description um I'm going to switch to my
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other tab so I can kind of read you just some Snippets of of the art article so I'm going to talk about Mars first so
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this isn't probably very surprising for a lot of you um that Skittles was working on freeze drying their own
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Skittles okay so Skittles is very popular it's a new take on the candies
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we've uh we know that that sells really well some people are reporting that it's kind of on the down downward spiral not
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spiral and that's that's a bad word it's just on the downward Trend in terms of it's not new anymore um that's a good
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thing because consumers are used to the candy they're used to that texture and they're like oh I really like
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freeze-dried Skittles over the chewy kind so that's good um but we knew that
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Skittles and other candy manufacturers were we're taking notice of freeze drying in fact um if you're not a part
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of my email list um go to freeze dry.com and I I have an EMA email community that
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I'm trying to be act more active with emails about this and I announced these announcements through the email uh
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earlier this week one of the things that I said in the email about Mars is that in 2020 when I
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started my freeze drying business you know my my buddy and I that that we started this you know we we thought like
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there there can't be there's there's clearly obvious that we're freeze drying as someone else's branded Cy like I'm
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not making Skittles so at some point Mars was going to recognize either hey
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we're going to let these people continue to freeze dry Skittles and we're going to reap the benefits of this huge demand
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of our regular Skittles and make M of sales which they clearly are um or they're going to take another step and
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they're going to add a skew and they're going to add freeze stred Skittles and the reason they would do that is because
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they have a massive distribution Network they've got a lower cost of barrier to entry because they make the Skittles um
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they can actually lower the cost of purchasing a freeze dried Skittle bag because they make the they make the damn
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candy so they have a lot more power um but uh that doesn't mean that consumers
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are going to receive those products well right so it's been almost 2019 I know
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people have been freeze drying candy for prior to that but really the kind of the takeoff point was during the pandemic
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and you know we've all kind of established a brand uh in our local area
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are Regional National and a lot of people buy from us repeatedly are they
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going to switch over to a national brand that sometimes doesn't align with align
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with values sometimes doesn't uh promote small businesses it it you know squishes
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the small person so um are are those consumers that are buying from you are they going to switch over to the
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National brand um secondly is you probably noticed too there's a lot of
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people that sell into Target already and to um Walmart things like that so what
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are those big retail stores that are Global what are they gonna do are they gonna just say hey we're not going to
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accept your product anymore we're going to go with Mars is Mars going to kind of you know twist their arm and and force
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them to to to have only theirs uh in their stores we don't know that that's
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kind of the the the unknowns about Mars releasing freeze-dried Skittles coming
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up in early 2025 I think it's a good thing well let's let's continue so that's a little
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bit of unknowns um a couple other things that I have noted is um you
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know one is these are publicly traded companies so Mars Wrigley and I'll get
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to Hershey in a second Mars is a publicly traded company and they are
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concerned with profit if you're a stockholder of Mars you want that price to go up so if Mars is not making money
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on this new skew for freeze-dried Skittles they will not discontinue it
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but they are likely going to uh you know kind of get out of it in more of an aggressive way so they're probably going
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to spend a year two years measuring what type of impact this is going to have on
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their stock price um whether they're actually making money with it and then they'll probably decide okay are we
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actually going to invest more in it or are we going to kind of let a co-packer do this for us and personally um my
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thoughts is um I just I I'm skeptical to see to to know how the Market's going to
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receive a larger brand coming out with this because millions of people have
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eaten freeze-dried Skittles um from a lot of us we call it something different because of the trademark but a lot of
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people have been purchasing it from us and so I think that they're going to have a hard time getting a lot of people
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to just buy from them exclusively versus supporting the the brand and the fund
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and the personality of your own business so I don't think that it's going to
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squash a lot of our our our business um but it is something that we have to take notice of because we need to be uh
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looking at this and preparing ourselves for uh a definitely large brand coming
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into the market very quickly because uh they're already making this right they're going to launch it in 2025
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I would expect Super Bowl ads I would expect NFL playoff type ads I'd expect a
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lot of different activity marketing wise uh from these from Mars and other companies um so that's kind of my
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opinion uh and I you know how are they bagging this how are they packaging the freeze-dried Skittles we know that
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freeze dried candy is very delicate we don't know how it's going to be transported uh we don't we don't really
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know what it looks like inside at least I don't um it'd be helpful if if you know and um you know does the quality
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sustain itself while they distribute all this because I care about quality and you all know if you're new to freeze
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drying or even if you're existing you know what a good quality freeze dried Skittle is and then what one that's not
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and um and consumers know that so I I think they're going to have some some uh
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some challenges there so that's the major news is Mars Wrigley let me get to
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the other article which is about Hershey now Hershey owns the brand Jolly Rancher
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and they are coming out with a Jolly Rancher freeze-dried product all the same flavors and they say here Hershey
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Company is featuring product launches from Brands including Reese's Hershey's Jolly Ranchers blah blah blah um
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scrolling down they said debuting in early 2025 are the company's first
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freeze dried offering the Jolly Rancher freeze dried as a Le and this uh uh
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individual Nick Hansen vice president of the retail uh for candy he says as a
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leader in snacking Innovation we are committed to understanding responding to the needs of our consumers and retailers
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to elevate Shoppers experience and fuel growth across every category through new Innovations and offering key Shopper
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insights we're providing our consumers with more options catered to their preferences and helping our Retail
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Partners Drive sales long story short hey they're coming out with freeze-dried
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jell ranchers uh that was one of the first candies that I did um I've been kind of curious about what Jolly ran
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Hershey's been doing because um I live in Idaho we have a wico which is a wholesale type of uh you know bulk uh
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grocery store and you could buy Jolly Ranchers in bulk it was phenomenal all
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that went away about a year and a half ago so I'm I was kind of curious like you know what was going on with that and
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um it it makes sense that even Skittles you know you can't I I haven't been able to buy Skittles in the in the 50 ounce
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tubs at or 54 ounce tubs at Costco for I would probably say almost six to seven
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months so I would say these companies are reigning in the the bulk purchasing
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options for you to buy their their product um and and so we're having to kind of scrape by to find the product
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and so I think that was just a clear sign of them uh coming out with this product so they're both launching
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Hershey and Mars is launching their both of their freeze-dried product in early 2025 those are the major announcements
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and if you are looking at starting a freeze drying business these are things to note and if you're freaking out
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you're like oh my God I just you know bought this freeze dryer why would I continue doing this um well it's because
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these are global companies that are investing millions of dollars in a product that you want to start selling to um freeze drying um the freeze dried
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process that allowed us to kind of see what happens to Candy through a vacuum and heat man like that's that's
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completely going to be transforming this whole industry and these are only two candies we know that we have a lot of
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different candies that we're freeze drying so it's an exciting time because um one this is going to bring a ton of
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more awareness of people to the freeze-dried candy category and if you
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are positioned well with your Cogen optimization your websites ranking on
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Google if you are positioned well with social media with actively posting about your product if you are active with a
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Blog talking about the benefits of freeze drying if you are active with your live streams whatever you're doing
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if you're active all the way through this period where they're going to launch in early 2025 you will receive an
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uptick in general awareness of your brand because people are going to be
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searching for freeze dry drawler ranchers and you know what's going to come up first uh a lot of etsy ads a lot
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of Amazon ads a lot of local businesses because Google is gonna take a long time
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to crawl uh hershey.com you know freas dry Jolly Rancher that's going to take
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some time I I I have a background of digital marketing that's going to take some time for Google to crawl that
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National type of web website and then rank that above everybody else now Mars
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Wrigley and Hershey will most likely be paying for that ranking uh that Google
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has for Google AdWords and so they'll be paying for those but uh that doesn't
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mean that they're going to get all the traffic it's just going to drive a ton of people to Google ton of people to Tik Tok ton of people to Instagram they're
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all going to be searching for freeze dry Jolly Ranchers freeze dried something and um and that's where that's where a
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lot of your awareness is going to come in I've talked a lot so I'm GNA pause real
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quick and take a look at the chats feel free to give me your thoughts on this um
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and and I'm going to go through some of these um it's helpful to for me to know what your thoughts are from these
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articles if you weren't aware of these and also if you were what are you doing about it
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um all right y you saying uh I've noticed that
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the commercial freeze dad companies uh doesn't taste as good as a mom and pop that's yeah I hinted at that too that's
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what I that's what I kind of figure um especially the freeze dried Jolly Rancher I don't know how they're going
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to ship it uh it's a very delicate product in fact you know I
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use uh craft uh shredded paper for a lot of my shipping in my boxes for online
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orders and that's because I quickly found out that uh shipping a freeze-dried Jolly Rancher um shipping
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things that are very delicate kit in just like a a a bubble wrap type of uh
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package man like it just it just wasn't going to be efficient because the in
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consumer would see that and they just see a bunch of dust and personally I've gone to I think I did a short where I
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was at shields in Meridian Idaho and I saw the a bunch of freeze-dried products
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and uh I'm not bashing any of those companies but if you take a look at that short uh especially the Jolly Ranchers
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there was maybe like half of it was actually the Jolly Rancher that was popped and then the rest of it was all
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dust uh at the bottom so it's just not I don't know I think everyone struggles
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shipping that product so I'm curious how uh Hershey will do that all right uh Kevin says I go to a
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lot of holiday bazars and what I'm noticing is that a lot of other vendors who have purchased a freear are now selling freear candy with their Booth
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how do I stay competitive Kevin great question um yeah how do you stay competitive when people are you know uh
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selling their woodworking stuff at a holiday bazaar and then they also have freeze-dried freeze-dried products um a
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couple one is uh I I would make sure that when if when you're with your
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vendor agreement like look at the vendor agreement and um most of the time I
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found that those that those types of uh bazaars and things like that if they've been running cons consistently and they
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have a lot of returning vendors they've had to keep those vendors happy so they're going to write their contract to
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where it's like hey you can't sell something outside of your category things like that so I would just make
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sure that when you're signing your contract if you've already got one signed look at it real quick look at the
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writing and and just see if they've mention that you can only sell like one of your categories things like that so
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if someone's woodworking if someone's food uh they can't sell something outside of that
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category um also I would always check ahead of time with the the the organizer
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hey how many are you allowing in this category there's a lot of people that freeze dry so I'm just wondering you know I I need to position my product um
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for this event uh so that I'm I I have things that are unique um so what I've seen
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that's happened here locally for me is um I've got a couple con assignment
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stores here locally and they've added another freeze-dried company now I've
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talked to them about this and they're like well we didn't know that you you could do freeze-dried um you know nerd
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gummy clusters and I was like well yeah I can freeze dry anything what are you talking about and you know I didn't
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really want to fight them on it and so you know they they basically had somebody come in and they they're like
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oh I I recognize that freeze dry Depot has this product but I can do this and so some retail is going to be like no I
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I only want one particular brand other people are going to say yeah I want more so you're going to have to kind of flow
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with flow with it but on the vendor side for an event make sure you're checking the contract if you're signed it already
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and then I would talk to the organizer and say hey I need to be able to create a unique product for people to buy from
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me on top of maybe what the other vendor is selling um so you know either we got
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to work in tandem or you know you may not may not have to return um hope that hope that
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helps yeah says U Kevin when we sign up to the vendors we ask if there's another vendor yep um
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so yeah bran at white pepper with a market that's become more it's a great idea to start creating your own version
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of these candies yeah I agree uh yeah and i' I've made I've made
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Skittles with the fruit powder so um you know chamoy Skittles like the little
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chamoo uh or the tun seasoning stuff like that um all of this kind of brings with a lot
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of competition for events as well as just now with these major companies
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you've got to start maybe not you're not ready this year but starting in 2025
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you've got to have a goal of creating something unique now it doesn't have to be a brand new Candy maybe it's just a
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different flavor maybe you're trying to position yourself to be I'm going to be all about sour candies and that's all
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I'm going to do that way when you're marketing and you're going to these shows you're just all doing sour type
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candies so sour skittles you're doing you're making your own sour powder and now you're covering up uh you know a
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freeze-dried strawberry with sour spring uh sour type of uh powder all that type
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of stuff that's what maybe you could focus on um for me I do freeze-dried ice cream and that is something that I don't
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see a lot of people doing because one it's hard work and then number two you have to have a commercial kitchen to do
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TCS items temperature controlled items so you have to have a commercial kitchen to be able to have that kind of
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temperature control where you're taking something that's cold putting it and processing it in a freeze dryer a lot of
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people don't want to expend the cost of getting in a commercial space a lot of people don't want to also incur the the
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the inconvenience of going to a commercial kitchen as well you got to drive there you you got have um all your
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equipment there that type of stuff so a lot of people don't want to do that and so hence why uh freeze drying ice cream
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has really worked for me all right hey if you're new to this
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I will respond to the to the chat couple of things that we've talked about prior to this was two major announcements from
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Global candy makers Mars and Hershey Mars makes Skittles they are coming out
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with a freeze stride Skittle uh uh candy brand they're calling it Skittles popped
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and then Hershey is coming out with their Jolly Ranchers free stride in early 20125 that's what we've been
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anyway that's all of it uh thanks everyone for right now who is ever on the stream uh let me know in the chat
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where you're from I saw some people from Nebraska Minnesota Utah Idaho um awesome
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to see thanks for joining and uh yeah let me know in the comments oh Georgia
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let me know in the comments right now U I'll wait for a second how are things going um you know we're two weeks away
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from Halloween we're heading into Black Friday Christmas how are I know it's an election year this is going to be it's
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been to be honest it's been a little bit rough for me um you know I've got about eight different retail locations that I
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sell my product here locally and it's probably dropped a couple hundred dollars per month from
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what I normally receive I think just people are excuse me um I think just people are tightening
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their wallets a little bit although I heard on the radio and the News they're like the consumer reports expects retail
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sales to be close to 900 uh 900 million 900 billion I think
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or something like that something crazy that they're saying that retail sales are going to be for the holidays which
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seems a little absurd just given the market that kind of the market and the inflation that we're in like a lot of
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people are bootstrapping so either we're going either we have money that we that
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we want to spend or we don't have the money but we still feel like we need to spend it we're going out and buying a
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bunch of stuff is what they're forecasting um uh
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Kevin sorry for asking oh no ask away um what do you what do you find sells good
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besides skills caramels at holiday bizar um great question so Kevin's asking in
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the chat you know what what do you sell that's different than caramel M&M's uh
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Skittles probably some of these like top Global Brands um a lot of times I I sell
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a lot of fruit people are looking for healthy options so the kids might stop
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by and they're going to see you know Candy things like that of course but I
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sell a lot of fruit and it's the it's because it's like that dry people are used to dehydrated fruit so they're used
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to kind of having a chewi to the fruit but I actually I think a lot of people
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like uh the flavoring the intense flavor that a freeze-dried fruit comes so if
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you can freeze dry fruit uh you can I believe you can do that still under Cottage food um for candies I would look
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at things that um not everyone is doing so maybe it's more a little bit more labor intensive type candies so you
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might want to look at things like AirHeads where you got to unwrap uh the candies uh you might want to look at
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Charleston shoes lemon heads uh peppermints Starburst things that um are
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not as easy to unwrap and so people are like I want the easy way out now you have that I would also look at you know
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specific flavors a lot of people love sour things so I would look at sour
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skittles uh sour skittles as well
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all right Mike Q when you're renting a space in a kitchen now you work in the cost of electricity running the free
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dryer does okay so you're yeah if you're in a commercial kitchen like how do you
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figure out the cost of the electricity and how do you figure that in with the with the landlord uh great question I
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actually you know when I started getting a commercial kitchen in 20121 here in boisey that was the same question I had
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now the first place I went to was a commissary which was a shared commercial
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kitchen the owner of that had about six different venders in there and the
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majority of them were Caterers so they were in there all the time it was
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actually super annoying the reason I was able to get in there though is he was really unfamiliar with freeze dryers but
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when I showed him what the size of the freeze dryer is and I had three of them
32:24
he was like oh my gosh this is the size of a mini fridge I can easily put this in here and I said he's like well what type of electricity does it go through
32:31
and I was like well I mean I'm going to be doing fruit and like longer Cycles in this facility um I wasn't going to be
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doing candy so anyway when I was running the longer Cycles I was like this is going to run for 48 hours you're never
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going to even see me in here until it gets done and then secondly uh you know
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the the power output at my house when I was Cottage food I said was around you
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know5 to6 dollar per like 24 36 hour cycle and he's like oh you know and then
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he had the cost of the of the rent space and he's like oh yeah well that'll include the electricity that comes
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through and I was like well let me know if it like shoots through the roof and you feel like you didn't know what you
33:15
got into so I always kind of played the game of just being very professional and I just said you know like hey you know
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this is an electrically powered type of uh Appliance so the electricity is going
33:27
to go up on your facility just let me know if it's too crazy and we can work
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out something different with the rent so the rent the rent was my charge monthly and I didn't get charged for electricity
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because I was just kind of upright and I just said this is what it kind of cost um so I hope that answers your question
33:45
I would just talk to them about just talk to them about it say Hey you know I I've run this thing at my home here's
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kind of my bill normally $100 a month for electricity when I run my freeze
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dryer nonstop for this past month it went up by 150 bucks so you know what do
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you want to do about that so that's what I kind of would do James welcome I agree with the fruit
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down here in Florida I do a lot of tropical fruits avocad a good seller oh interesting you know I've never done
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avocados but I've always wanted to create my own like guacamole recipe well I have a guacamole
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recipe for my mom uh but uh I've always wanted to create like a powderized guacamole uh mix so I
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can just basically like just uh I guess mix it up again um so I thought about
34:39
just making it into little cubes and then that basically I just need to you know reconstitute it and then I've got
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some quick guacamole for my kids quesadillas things like that that's a great
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idea okay uh so we've been going here for about 35 minutes and I've answered
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some question questions thanks for joining let's get back to some of the topics that I wanted to just talk about
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um and one of it was uh uh shorts so I
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asked the poll I'd love to hear your thoughts on YouTube shorts if you
35:14
consume vertical format types of videos could you please comment either on this
35:19
video or if you're live in the chat how do like what what videos have I posted
35:26
on this channel that you been like I really like these because I've tried some different formats I've done uh
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reactions to some viral freeze drying that uh from space a snacks and other
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other places um I've also done like you know here's five tips I've done uh kind
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of some cut UPS of my longer form videos what what kind of has been the best
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shorts that you've been like oh I'm so glad he posted that um so if I don't get any chats that's perfectly fine but but
35:57
if you're watching this as a replay let me know in the comments I would love to know uh What uh what you've enjoyed with
36:04
the YouTube shorts because YouTube has come out officially on the 15th of this month that you can do three minute
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videos which that's a lot longer time and it's a lot easier for me to you know
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explain something that I usually do in a 12 to 15 minute video now I can kind of
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shorten that down vertically and get through a lot of material for you to consume but I kind of want to uh gauge
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to see how you guys uh what what do you guys want um looking at the comments
36:36
now Stefan just got our first freeze dry delivered yesterday awesome
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congratulations doesn't have custom settings like a harvest right I wonder if You' share what type of freeze dryer
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you got um Kevin I think you did a short on packaging I think that's a great idea
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old bear says really like the interviews and knowledge based videos perhaps you could dive deeper in the history of freeze drying that's a good suggestion
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um yeah and speaking of like the interviews I don't know if you've
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checked I I call it my podcast but it's really just a I'm trying to section it
37:13
differently from kind of my how-to videos and especially my live streams is
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I've done almost I think 14 interviews through the frozen assets playlist if
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you looked at that I'm that's what I'm calling my my podcast where I'm featuring entrepreneurs in freeze drying
37:31
um sweet potato awesome the guy down in Vegas uh Josh who's doing freeze drying sweet potatoes if you haven't checked
37:37
out that playlist you know I know they're really long but they're basically YouTube video or sorry Zoom
37:44
calls and also some inperson that I've done with different individuals across
37:49
the space and you probably don't know them and so I really like this aspect of
37:55
of the channel that I've also got this huge Network and I've got a lot of exciting people that I've already uh
38:01
interviewed and I'm trying to get get that video content together so yeah thanks for bringing that up old bear I
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really like that because uh that's something I'm really G to be pushing in 2025 is is um trying to get one
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interview out per month I'm also going to try to be uh traveling uh to different people featuring uh
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entrepreneurs in freeze drying and that's part of what my new membership uh charge will be
38:28
going towards is it does cost me money and time for my family to go and travel
38:34
but it's kind of what I want to do I want to be the publisher for freeze drying news especially for B2B and so if
38:41
you see a lot of value in what I'm bringing to the table and just my my
38:46
types of strategy and what what I'm bringing to the table for news on freeze drying your membership support for for
38:55
you my YouTube channel was really going to help help me um and also sharing my those videos would be really helpful
39:03
too uh Stephan we can extend the drying time from what I've seen any advice on how to figure out the total times I mean
39:10
for the things we mean yeah what type of freeze dryer do you have that's that's my question I haven't seen that
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yet um yeah you know freeze dryers are freeze dryer all freeze dryers are
39:24
different air Woods an air Woods freeze dryer let's see I'm gonna type that
39:30
up where are you where are you base out of
39:37
stepen air Woods home freeze
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dryer huh I never heard of this company
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um it almost looks like a Harvest
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Right looks like they're in China
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okay so yeah I'm not familiar with air Woods it looks like you
40:04
purchased like what looks like a harbest rate freeze dryer maybe maybe a knockoff
40:10
of one I'm not really sure um um so I'm not really sure you can go ahead and
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email me though um I'm happy to correspond through that got it from a company in China yeah um yeah not really
40:24
sure what what what that's included there you know a lot of things have been have been marketed in China uh about
40:32
freeze dryers things like that um I'm just not sure you know what what what
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that's all about so uh I live in the Netherlands hard to get a harvest right yeah um yeah it is
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and I'm I'm trying to get more connected with uh European freeze dryer companies
40:52
there's one called wave um they're in Switzerland I did an interview I'm going to be coming out with that interview
40:58
here soon uh wave Technologies and there's also Hall and green science now
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these are freeze dryers that typically have been used by the Cannabis space and
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they um are usually European companies that then have um some type of location
41:14
here in the US so you might want to look at those two companies and they might have a way for you to purchase their
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freeze dryers that still do candy and all types of stuff they just haven't really marketed their freeze dryers uh
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for yeah you know Candy and uh fruit things like that it's mainly been pharmaceutical and cannabis so look at
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those two again that the the two there are going to be wave and Hall and green
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science Minard says or the cube yep cube is a a freear you might want to look to
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see if they ship it to the to Europe um Salam I'm happy to get here
41:57
live live awesome yeah okay um yeah and so uh let
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me go over a couple other things that uh I wanted to talk about regarding the uh
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Mars and Hershey announcement so a couple things that I mention if in my
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email uh distribution list is and also if you're not an email a part of my email list uh go to Freez Drive bus.com
42:23
there's a link in the video description uh join my email list I'm trying to email at a minimum twice a week trying
42:30
to get three and it's it's kind of where I'm going to more tailor my personality
42:35
and kind of my personal thoughts of throughout the week and news and things like that versus the the YouTube side
42:41
takes more time for me to edit and create a good quality production so although I I'm staying cons trying to
42:48
stay consistent with a weekly video um for long form and some shorts uh emails
42:54
where I can kind of quickly get to to talk to you so join my email list what I said in that when Hershey came out with
43:00
their announcement for freear ranchers is um here's a couple things that you can do when now that we know that these
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major manufacturers are coming in number two is you need to kind of take a look at your business as it stand today and
43:14
look at your product line you know are you all focused on freeze drying Skittles and freeze drying a lot of
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these name brand type of candies um because you will be struggling with
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purchasing and getting that Supply uh from those from those candies once they release because they're going to be
43:31
prioritizing their candies so it's going to be tougher to get those types of candies in bulk uh number two is you
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know can you can you tweak your own types of candies that you're doing so I
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mentioned this and and Brandon over at white pepper Pharmacy mentioned this too powderize uh a a a a net or an an actual
43:54
freeze-dried product and then flavoring something else with that is something that I think is really a great
44:00
application and will really help you kind of elevate some type of new flavor and it doesn't take too much to do that
44:06
you've already got the freeze dryer um now flavor something by crushing up whatever you've done so let's take um so
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make your own sour uh flavors I'm gonna i' I've seen some Sour recipes so you
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could sourze things um I've got a video on taking Skittles and then putting
44:27
fruit flavoring all around it the best one that came out uh with that one was pineapple it actually tasted like a
44:32
pineapple freeze-dried Skittle so you could do those things um just consider a
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lot of different things like can you include more volume in your product um can you go with something specific for
44:43
colors all of that is the first step that you need to do um as we look at
44:49
this announcement number two one is you need to start researching your candy your your own candy um one of
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the things that I think that more people need to be doing is talking to maybe a
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local candy maker we all know that there's local candy shops that make
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candy they make taffy they make different things ask them hey I know
45:13
that uh these candies pop in the freeze dryer I want to create my own blue
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raspberry type of Jolly Rancher hard candy um could you be because you're a
45:25
candy professional do you know what's in the Jolly Rancher I need um some kind of
45:30
candy created for me that's blue raspberry I want something that's more multi like a Taffy and I want something
45:36
that's more hard candy that's more uh like more of a powderized type of texture and then go to them and ask them
45:44
to make you something and it might cost you 50 75 bucks for them to make that
45:49
but is that worth it for research and development for potentially your own candy product absolutely so look into
45:56
that as are coming into 2025 number three that I mentioned in my
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email um regarding my thoughts and my strategies for when because you know
46:07
Mars is coming out with their candies is um one survey your customers now to ask
46:14
them why they love your freeze-dried business and also your freeze dried products and then tell them hey we saw
46:21
recently that freeze dried that Mar that uh yeah Skittles coming out with their own Skittles popped and Jolly Rancher as
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well um what's your opinion of that what would drive you to to actually purchase
46:35
from them versus me and that way you know through a survey you can do that through Google um if you have a Gmail
46:41
account you can use Google forms it's free you can send that out as a link and people will fill it out and you'll get the results you can also use Survey
46:48
Monkey things like that survey your customers already collect their email address or uh send them send people
46:55
emails to your vendors uh try to get a pulse on why people are buying from you and if they would move over to somebody
47:02
else why okay that's really good for you to know and then number four is uh why I did this live stream which is uh don't
47:10
freak out about this um you know just because these companies are investing millions of dollars doesn't mean that
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it's going to be a success for them I mentioned earlier on in this stream that they are a publicly traded company a lot
47:25
of these are they are focused on profits and shareholder price they want their shareholders to be satisfied and if
47:32
they're investing a lot of money and their balance sheet shows that they have a lot of expenses going to freeze drying
47:38
and it's not producing enough return for their stock price to go up then they
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will find other ways to to still stay in this space but not at an aggressive rate
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that uh that would you know flood the market and not allow us to enter into it
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again so they're not going to cannibalize their existing product either um that's another thing they're
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not going to look at Skittles and go oh wow this has been making us you know a hundred million dollar a year just for
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Skittles alone and then when we introduced freeze-dried Skittles popped
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I the regular candy went down 25 million to 75 a year and then we only made 10
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million with the freeze-dried Skittle popped um that would be a a sign of like
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okay like we kind of can our own product that has always been a staple for us so
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they're not going to do that um and so uh what one one thing just to keep in
48:35
mind too I I'll kind of wrap up and then we'll do some Q&A here if you're still watching this is one if you've purchased
48:43
your freeze dryer to start a business one congratulations I'm very excited for
48:49
you personally I love when people say I just purchased my freeze dryer I'm ready to start this because I love
48:55
entrepreneurship it's why I started this channel it's a kind of a business for me
49:00
um you know it's it's fun doing it but it's hard not everyone can be successful and the reason you can't be successful
49:07
all the time is because you let things like this get in your head get in your mindset and you let uh a lot of people
49:15
redirect your passion for what you're about to do uh don't go in it blindly
49:20
you know there is research that you need to do you need to be aware that there's competition you need to have a plan for
49:27
what products to sell uh you need to know what your cost are you need to know what you're going to sell it for and
49:32
what type of profit and what type of Labor and all that type of stuff you need to figure out which is very easy
49:37
you can go to my videos and see but don't let this uh discourage you and if you're an existing business I've already
49:44
given you some strategies on what you should be doing right now and I've been saying this for almost a year now that
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you need to do your own you need to put money into research and development and if you want encouragement if you want
49:58
ideas um one you see in the chat white pepper Farms Brandon um I've gotten to
50:04
know him uh quite a bit this past year just as a Creator go to his YouTube
50:10
channel he's got a ton of videos on recipes and things that he's doing just from a home business uh not a home
50:17
business but well he kind of running a business but uh just a home uh like home
50:23
garden and then figuring out ways to use and apply freeze dried products secondly
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is go to another Channel my friend Brian uh over at live life simple you've probably seen some of his videos he's
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got his own freeze drying cookbook he's got recipes all of that can give you encouragement to say okay I know the
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freeze drying process removes water I know that a freeze dryer with a vacuum
50:48
and and heat it helps candy to pop certain candies um I know that it can
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preserve things long term it can also be applic able for powders it can flavor things differently you can also
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reconstitute it so it's easy to transport and travel with without having to refrigerate certain types of produce
51:07
so all those different types of things spark ideas for you to expand your product line and it only takes one
51:14
product for a consumer that's per regularly purchased from you to kind of
51:19
attach themselves to you so I kind of think of uh trendy treats I did an interview with Jesus um and his wife uh
51:28
down in Salt Lake City Utah and they they started trendy treats which is a freeze-dried candy company and they want
51:34
to bring sweetness to the world one of the things that they did this year is
51:40
they launched their own freeze dread candy called a globo that globo they spent he said about a year researching
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they made it blue raspberry which is favorite flavor they they tested it with a lot of focus groups and blue raspberry
51:54
seemed like the the best flavor it kind of has this this Twist on a Taffy like
51:59
maltiness with also like a rock pop so when I when I ate it there on site in
52:05
the interview um after I ate it it just kind of like popped in my mouth it was it was weird and it was kind kind had
52:10
had a sense of of of sourness too that that that's what this Camp is doing and
52:15
now that's they promote they just promote globos now um on top they have
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other products they have freeze Dr Skittles uh you know rainbow uh bites whatever you call them they have all
52:27
those they're still selling them and I'm sure it's a huge product line but they went out made up their own product and
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just said that's what we're going to be known for as well as the other things so
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that's my encouragement to you um let's see let's get to some questions I'll stay on for another 10 minutes or so and
52:46
feel free to ask me some questions and if you want to you can always email me and I'll try to respond as well let's
52:54
see um hey man your Vis encour me oh all the way from Saudi Arabia I just received my two freeze dryers yesterday
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I'm so excited awesome I wonder what freeze drying is like in Saudi Arabia what do you planning on freeze drying if
53:05
you don't mind uh adding in the comments there um uh one thing that i' I actually
53:11
tried was uh I tried something that my my brother-in-law is from Saudi Arabia
53:17
actually um and uh uh anyway uh he uh I I tried uh freeze
53:26
drying dates uh and I don't know it it didn't work out right um and so I don't
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know uh I I guess I got to try more things I I probably should have I guess
53:39
maybe I didn't freeze dry it long enough um I probably should probably powderize dates because it has really good
53:44
nutritional value but yeah same stuff okay so candy things like that yeah
53:50
that's another thing the United States I feel like because of harbest rri being in the US and Salt Lake City
53:57
Utah you know they kind of kind of started this like huge Revolution this
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this big industry in freeze drying especially freeze drying as a business and so I think it's really popular in
54:09
the US but I know that the global market is barely on the cusp of anything
54:17
because I've talked to two European freeze dry companies I told you wave and Hall and green science those two
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companies are like yeah people are freeze drying but it's like few and far between so they're having huge success
54:29
so it's it's like popping up and so s in uh sa I hope I'm saying that is s uh in
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uh Saudi Arabia man like you're gonna have a great success because you'll be able to uh really capitalize on not many
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people doing it stepan uh you're saying uh any advice
54:50
about the gas uh ballast on the vacuum pump uh
54:57
no I don't know about that I don't know much about the vacuum pumps other than what's comes with the Harvest R and I
55:03
also have a stay fresh so I can't help you there um we got told that it needs
55:09
to be open at all times but it was delivered closed um yeah so from what I
55:15
understand about vacuum pumps uh I believe that's
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more I actually I don't really want to speak about it because I I don't I don't want to want to give you advice um I I
55:28
believe Harvest Right says to keep the like the premium pump has a open and
55:34
closed uh valve and I believe you want to keep those closed because you
55:39
basically don't want the the evaporation from from whatever you're extracting and
55:46
going to the pump to go back in I believe uh don't quote me on that uh only one of those dates got
55:53
really good one day I'll send it to you yeah that'd be great great um all right if you're if you're still if you're
55:59
still on this live stream happy to to answer your questions if you've got any and again uh we've been talking about
56:07
the the news from Mars Wrigley and from Hershey announcing that in early 2025
56:12
they are going to be launching their freeze-dried Jolly Rancher brand hershe is and then freeze-dried Skittles popped
56:19
uh on the other end by the way you know one other thing
56:24
that I wanted to mention about the Skittles popped I think it's a great branding uh switch you know if you
56:31
notice in the article for uh Hershey calls it Jolly Ranchers freeze dried um
56:37
so they use the word freeze dried in Skittles it's called Skittles popped uh and then they do have on the
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bag it says freeze-dried candy but what I like about that is I've I've kind of
56:50
felt that since freeze drying does you're not really it's not a free
56:56
freeze-dried candy right you're not taking any water out so like the you don't need necessarily a freeze dryer
57:02
the reason you do need the freeze dyer for C well let's rephrase that the
57:07
reason you're needing a freeze dryer to make a candy pop is because a freeze dryer has a cold trap which is the
57:15
cylinder that keeps the air cold while having a vacuum pull the pre like have
57:20
pressure to pop the candy and then you have heat to basically crystallize that
57:25
that c handy and then the reason you let it cool down in that cold trap is so that it can kind of basically stay in
57:32
that new form um so you can do it with the vacuum oven those things will pop uh
57:38
but you need to be attached to a vacuum pump because it needs to have that pressure to pop so the freeze dryer has
57:46
those that's why that but also a vacuum oven with a freeze dryer can do that
57:51
well uh sorry vacuum with vacuum pump with a vacuum oven vacuum oven though
57:56
are pretty expensive they're actually more expensive than a freeze dryer to my understanding uh so I I like the popped
58:04
brand I like that and they haven't trademarked and you know maybe they will
58:09
but I kind of like the idea of popped candy you know that popped candy is kind
58:15
of a good industry term versus calling it freeze-dried uh that way it kind of expands the plethora of candy that is
58:22
popped uh not necessarily freeze-dried um how do AirHeads and nerds work freeze
58:30
drying so AirHeads AirHeads are easy you know I wouldn't do any warming of the trays I would just do uh 150 degrees and
58:39
run it for two to three hours easy to freeze Dr that well nerds won't work necess like the hard candy but nerd
58:46
clusters nerd ropes those do pop at a 140 150 degrees the general consensus is
58:53
that you want to run most candies at 140 degrees or 150 degrees the recipe for
59:00
candy is going to be more on what type of heat you need prior to the vacuum
59:06
kicking on uh to pop that candy so the reason you see variances is because some
59:13
people heat candy in their oven some people heat it in the actual freeze dryer um there's hard candies that can't
59:20
pop unless they're melted down or softened up enough past 150° so the hard
59:26
Right freeze dryer and I believe to stay fresh uh I can't get them to go above
59:31
150° and that's what you kind of need for some of these harder candies like peppermints um like uh Red Hots and
59:40
lemon heads you need that hard shell to soften and then it'll pop uh but it
59:45
can't do that just directly putting it in the freeze you need something that has has enough heat to
59:51
it Tara first week with my Harvest Right Skittles nerd gumy were successful however my starbur didn't pop and were
59:58
Tad hard yeah um that might happen now if you warmed the trays Tera um then
1:00:05
okay you did I did 15 mons warming 150 for three hours didn't turn out like yours okay so there's a couple of
1:00:12
things that I would I would test again uh for Starburst is I would test uh one
1:00:20
the kind of the staleness of the starburst that you purchased um there is that is a factor so I've tried freeze
1:00:27
drying stale like uh sorry I started free I've had trouble with stale candy
1:00:34
is what I'm trying to say um peach rings that's what I was trying to get at peach rings if I have stale peach rings and
1:00:41
you can just look at the expiration date um when you go and buy it things like that all of a sudden they don't pop so
1:00:47
it has to be some fresh candy I think that that's a factor you have to evaluate that secondly uh when you look
1:00:54
at Starburst as well you kind of need to just test to see like what the room
1:01:00
temperature is when you're preparing that so if it hardens up too much let's say it's now the winter time and it
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hardens up to up or you're doing it in a kitchen where it's air conditioned that may not that you need
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to maybe make it more room temperature when you're when you're going to start putting in the freeze dryer that just might be the case um so keep
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experimenting I know people struggle with Starburst um I've had success with Starburst burst in different ways you
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can check out my video on freeze drying Starburst I did the oven way and I also did the freeze dryer way the oven way uh
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made it melt way too much and it ended up popping more than I wanted to and then I did in the freeze dryer my
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Harvest Right large and it popped uh perfectly uh and that and I did that for
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eight minutes of warming the trays at 150 Kevin another question I've
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had people ask me if they prepare the meals and I freeze dry for and then I sell it to them is that allowed um Okay
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Kevin you're asking about basically doing freeze drying for other people I
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do that myself um there's no like if you're doing it kind of like
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oneoff for different people um and getting some money for that I mean it's
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not there's nobody policing you is what I'm trying to say um but if you want to
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actually create a business where uh you can get some insurance to cover liability um in case that that
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freeze-dried meal goes bad or uh you want to be able to have a more consistent you know business with your
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freeze drying like helping people freeze dry something then that's where I would really kind of investigate uh legally
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how you can freeze dry something for somebody what I did get told by a health
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inspector uh here locally is there is a difference between handling food and
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processing food so for example he brought up that there's a butcher in the
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local business in the local B boy area that all he does is he has people bring
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meat for like you know it's hunting season right now they bring their elk and or they bring their cow whatever and
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he butchers it and cuts it up into all the different types of uh cuts that
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people want so he doesn't have to have a FDA license
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uh to because FDA is more uh you know you have to or what I'm trying to get at
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I don't I think it's the FDA I might be mixing up the two there's USDA us uh
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Drug Administration and then there's also the uh the FDA Federal Drug
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Administration FDA oversees I believe just the the selling of Commerce so if
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you want to sell something that you've processed then FDA is there USDA is more overseeing uh like the
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handling part of it um and I might be flip-flopping those so what I'm trying to get at is handling food for someone
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all you need to have is a license to be able to handle the food and then you're just giving that back to them for a
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payment uh you're not creating your own product packaging it with your own stuff versus if you're doing the whole process
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then that's different uh you know if you're butchering the cow cutting it up
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at your place then packaging it up in something uh and storing it to then sell
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that that whole process is different than handling food hope that makes
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sense want to do caramel M&M what you're setting caramel M&M's I do at 150 or 140
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sorry 135 or 140 I don't go above that because the crell Eminem The caramel is
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going to pop and for me I don't want it to be
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too delicate so of 135 and 140 degrees in a Harvest Right freeze dryer or stay
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fresh has worked well for me for caramel M&M's and let that thing cool because
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again it has some chocolate in it so you want the freeze dryer to cool down or immediately put them in your freezer so
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it kind of hardens up U the The Chocolate shell and the caramel good
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