To the untrained eye, the series of maneuvers a dog performs before starting to poop appears to be a collection of idiosyncratic quirks.
However, as canine ethologists, we recognize these as stereotypical motor patterns, a sequence of behaviors known colloquially as " the pooping dance. (https://doggozila.com/the-pooping-dance/) "
This ritual is a sophisticated interface between the dog’s internal physiology and its external environment.
The "pooping dance", a behavioral sequence involving circling, sniffing, and positioning before a dog defecates, is a complex ritual rooted in evolutionary survival, territorial communication, and physical health.
Tracing back 15,000 to 40,000 years to the gray wolf (Canis lupus), these behaviors allow domestic dogs to mitigate vulnerability during elimination while simultaneously engaging with their environment through scent marking.
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Welcome to another episode by the Bark
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Brigade podcast. And um today we've got
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a really really fun deep dive for you.
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>> Yeah, we absolutely do. It's a it's a
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topic that I think literally every dog
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owner has wondered about at some point.
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>> Oh, for sure. Because you know, if you
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really stop and think about it, we
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invite these incredible instinct driven
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predators into our living rooms. Right.
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>> Right. Into completely safe
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environments.
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>> Exactly. We give them like plush
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orthopedic memory foam beds. We feed
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them these hyperengineered gourmet
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kibble diets. We dress them in little
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yellow raincoats,
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>> which they usually hate, by the way.
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>> Yeah, they totally do. But despite all
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of that domestic luxury, there are these
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moments, these um daily, highly specific
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routines where you look at your dog and
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realize they are operating on a
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completely different frequency.
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>> An ancient frequency really.
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>> Yes. And nothing, I mean, absolutely
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nothing, highlights that wild disconnect
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quite like the quirky, universally
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recognizable pooping dance.
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>> Famous pin.
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>> You, as a dog owner, you know exactly
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what I'm talking about. You've all seen
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it. The spinning, the uh frantic
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sniffing of a single blade of grass,
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>> the pacing back and forth,
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>> right? The intense furrowed brow
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concentration before they finally decide
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to defecate. And to you standing there
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holding the leash on a freezing Tuesday
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morning,
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>> well, you're already like 10 minutes
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late for work.
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>> Exactly. It might just seem like an
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amusing or, let's be honest, mildly
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infuriating delay, but our mission for
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this deep dive is to completely decode
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this behavior
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>> because there is actually so much
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happening under the surface.
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>> There really is. We are going to reveal
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the profound science, the ancient
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evolutionary history, and the crucial
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health indicators hidden right there in
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this everyday routine.
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>> And we're pulling a lot of this from a
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really fantastic source today.
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>> We are. Our map for this exploration
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comes from a comprehensive article by
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Helen Thompson in Dogzilla magazine.
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It's titled The Pooping Dance: Why Dogs
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Circle Before They Poop.
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>> It is such a remarkable piece of
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synthesis. I mean, because it takes
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something we all completely take for
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granted,
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>> something we make memes about online,
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>> right? something we just joke about and
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it treats it with the rigorous
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scientific seriousness it actually
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deserves
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>> which is why we're doing this deep dive.
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>> Exactly. Because the truth is knowledge
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is most valuable when it's applied. Once
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you understand the biomechanics, the
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sensory input and the complex psychology
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behind this dance,
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>> it changes everything.
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>> It really does. It is going to
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fundamentally change how you support
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your pet. You won't just be a bystander
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waiting for them to finish their
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business anymore. You'll be watching a
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ritual,
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>> a highly complex, multi-layered ritual
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of survival, communication, and
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environmental calibration.
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>> Okay, let's unpack this because to go
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from the comedic, slightly ridiculous
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visual of a pampered golden doodle
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spinning in a manicured suburban park,
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>> which is a very funny image by the way,
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>> right? To go from that to the serious
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raw survival instincts of a wild animal,
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we have to travel back a very long way.
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We
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>> really do. When you look at the
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timeline, the domestic dog Canis lupus
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familiaris has an evolutionary journey
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stretching back anywhere from 15,000 to
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maybe even 40,000 years
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>> back to their divergence from the grey
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wolf. Canis lupus,
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>> right? So we are talking about tens of
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thousands of years of hardwired life or
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death survival programming just echoing
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in their DNA. And to really grasp the
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gravity of the pooping dance, we have to
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mentally transport ourselves out of that
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safe fenced in backyard.
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>> Then back to the wild,
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>> back to that harsh, unforgiving
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prehistoric environment. Because in the
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wild, survival is a constant, exhausting
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minute-by-minute calculation.
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>> You can't ever really let your guard
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down.
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>> Never. And the act of eliminating waste
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is fundamentally one of the most
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mechanically and physically vulnerable
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positions an animal can possibly be in.
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>> He says they're stuck. Great.
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>> Exactly. When early canines and wolves
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were in the middle of this biological
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necessity, they were effectively
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immobilized. Their hind legs are bent.
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Their center of gravity is totally
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shifted
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>> and their belly is exposed,
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>> right? Their vital organs in the
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underbelly are exposed incredibly close
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to the ground. They couldn't sprint away
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at a moment's notice. They couldn't
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fight effectively from that posture.
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They were just sitting ducks,
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>> entirely defenseless against a sudden
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ambush by larger apex predators or even
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just opportunistic attacks from rival
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packs.
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>> Wow.
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>> So, the pooping dance at its core
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biological level is an instinctual
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survival mechanism specifically
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engineered to mitigate that window of
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extreme life-threatening vulnerability.
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>> I was actually trying to think of how to
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relate to that specific level of
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cognitive and physical exposure. You
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know, for us humans,
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>> it's hard to imagine that level of
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constant threat.
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>> It really is. But the best analogy I
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could come up with is this. Imagine you
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are trying to read and answer a highly
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urgent, incredibly complex text message
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from your boss.
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>> Okay, stressful enough already,
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>> right? But you have to do it while
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standing completely still in the middle
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of a busy, chaotic four-lane city
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crosswalk.
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>> Oh, wow. Yeah, that would be terrifying.
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>> Your eyes are locked on the screen. Your
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cognitive load is totally consumed by
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the task and your situational awareness
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of your surroundings drops to almost
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zero
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>> while heavy machinery is speeding past
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you.
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>> Exactly. You are totally physically
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exposed to these machines moving rapidly
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all around you. If you had to do that,
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you would absolutely need some kind of
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intense pre-itual before you look down
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at your phone.
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>> You'd be checking everywhere.
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>> You'd be looking over both shoulders,
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scanning all the lanes, securing your
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footing, checking the traffic lights,
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>> establishing a safe zone.
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>> Yeah. establishing a secure perimeter in
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your mind just to ensure you don't get
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obliterated the second you drop your
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guard to type.
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>> If we connect this to the bigger
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picture,
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>> that is exactly what the canine brain is
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doing during the pre-elimination phase.
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>> They're checking the crosswalk.
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>> Exactly. But they aren't just passively
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looking around like a pedestrian. They
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are physically actively altering their
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immediate micro environment to create a
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literal safe zone
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>> because they're stepping on the grass.
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Right.
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>> Yes. When wild dogs or wolves circled,
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they were engaging in a very practical
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physical modification of the terrain.
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They were trampling down tall, dry
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grass, brushing away sharp debris.
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>> Oh, like rocks and stuff.
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>> Rocks, thorns, anything that could
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injure that delicate exposed underbelly.
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And crucially, the heavy footfalls of
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that circular stamping were designed to
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flesh out threats,
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>> like hiding predators. Well, more like
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hidden pests, biting insects, or even
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venomous snakes hiding in the brush.
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>> Oh, wow. I didn't even think about
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snakes.
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>> Yeah, they were essentially constructing
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a flattened, secure perimeter. The
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physical mechanics of the circle served
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to clear the space so absolutely nothing
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could sneak up on them through the
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underbrush while their mobility was
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compromised.
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>> And it wasn't merely about making a
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clean, comfortable bed to do their
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business, right? Because we know from
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the source that circling allowed these
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ancestral wolves to do a complete 360°
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visual and auditory sweep of their
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environment.
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>> Yes, a full sensory scan.
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>> Think about the physical motion. They
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are turning like an active radar dish
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before committing to that defenseless
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posture.
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>> That's a great way to put it.
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>> They aren't just spinning blindly. I
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mean, their eyes are catching every
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subtle movement in the brush.
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>> The biomechanics of the spin are so
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fascinating when you really break them
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down. In the wild, lethal threats do not
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politely approach from the front.
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>> No, they sneak up behind you.
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>> They can come from literally any point
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on the compass. So, by physically
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forcing their bodies to turn in a
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complete circle, often multiple times,
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they are overriding their forward-facing
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predatory vision.
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>> Oh, because dogs are predators, so they
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normally just look straight ahead.
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>> Exactly. They force themselves to look
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in every single direction. They scan the
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horizon for the slightest visual
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anomaly. And simultaneously, their ears,
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which are highly directional and can
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pivot independently, are sweeping the
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area,
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>> listening for like a twig snapping.
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>> Yes. Listening for the micro sounds of a
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predator scking.
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>> A twig snap, a rustle of leaves that
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doesn't match the ambient wind pattern.
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But there was a secondary highly
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sophisticated layer to this.
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>> What is that?
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>> By establishing that specific flattened
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cleared area through trampling, they
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were actually creating a localized
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baseline for their sensory array. wait a
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baseline like they are actively
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calibrating their sensors to that
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specific patch of dirt.
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>> Think about it from a signal to noise
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perspective. If you are standing in a
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chaotic overgrown thicket, the ambient
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noise and visual clutter are just
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overwhelming.
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>> Just too much data,
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>> right? But if you stomp down a 3-foot
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radius of grass until it is flat and
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silent,
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>> you've just created a controlled
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environment.
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>> Oh, I see. Standing in that flattened
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known space
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>> meant that any new sound, any new
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vibration in the ground or any sudden
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movement at the edge of that clearing
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would stand out dramatically
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>> because it contrast with the quiet
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baseline they just made.
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>> Exactly. The dance reduces the
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environmental noise so the dog can hear
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the signal of an approaching threat.
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>> That makes an incredible amount of
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sense. They aren't just moving to burn
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off nervous energy. They're literally
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fine-tuning their early warning system.
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>> It's highly calculated. But, you know,
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while clearing the grass and utilizing
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their vision and hearing explains the
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physical visible movement of the dance,
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anyone who has spent more than 5 minutes
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watching their dog knows that the nose
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is working just as hard.
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>> Usually harder, honestly.
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>> Yeah. Significantly harder than the eyes
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and ears combined. They are deeply
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obsessively engaged in this invisible
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world of sense. Which brings us to the
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profound chemical and, believe it or
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not, magnetic science of the pooping
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dance. This is the exact threshold where
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we transition from purely physical
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defense mechanisms into the realm of
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complex unseen communication.
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>> Because for humans, defecation is just
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biological waste removal.
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>> Right? We flush it away and never think
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about it again.
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>> But for canines, elimination is a highly
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strategic, vital form of territory
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marking and social networking.
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>> Social networking. I love that.
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>> It really is. The feces they leave
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behind is essentially a biological,
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highly detailed business card. A very
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stinky business card.
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>> Very stinky, but absolutely loaded with
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specific scents, complex pherommones,
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and intricate chemical information.
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>> What kind of information?
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>> It broadcasts the dog's unique identity,
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their current physical health, the
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specifics of their recent diet, and even
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their reproductive or hormonal status to
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any other animal that passes by.
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>> Here's where it gets really interesting,
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because the Dogazilla magazine research
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highlights that it's not just the poop
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itself doing the broadcasting, right?
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Not at all. The actual physical act of
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the circling dance allows dogs to leave
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behind additional highly specific
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pherommones from specialized glands
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located right in their paws.
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>> The interdigital glands.
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>> Yeah. So by stamping and turning and
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aggressively scratching the dirt in a
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circle, they are literally drawing a
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localized chemical boundary line in the
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soil before they even deposit the
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primary marker. Those interdigital
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glands located between their paw pads
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are just incredible tools. When a dog
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spins, the friction and the pressure of
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their weight against the ground warm up
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those pads
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>> and that triggers the scent.
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>> Yes. It stimulates the glands to release
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an apric sweat that carries their unique
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chemical signature. It's a phenomenal
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dual action process.
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>> So, they're marking with their feet and
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their waist.
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>> Exactly. They are preparing to drop a
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massive, highly pungent scent marker,
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the feces. But first, they are actively
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priming the canvas. They are working
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those paw pherommones deep into the
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crushed grass stems and the soil,
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>> creating like a 3D scent profile
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>> that tells any other dog that
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approaches, not only is I here and not
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only is this my primary scent marker,
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but I actively paste and claimed this
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specific physical radius around the
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marker.
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>> But wait, I have to push back on this a
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little bit or at least ask for some
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biological clarification here.
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>> Sure, go ahead. If the poop itself is
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this giant, undeniable beacon of scent
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and information, and their paws are
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actively leaving a chemical ring around
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the site,
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>> why do they need to sniff the ground so
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intensely before they go?
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>> Ah, the deep sniffing phase.
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>> Yeah, I mean, their noses are
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practically vacuuming the grass. What
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are they looking for if they are the
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ones about to do the marking?
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>> That is a crucial distinction to make,
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and it really speaks to the complexity
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of their sensory world. The intense pre-
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sniffing serves two very specific
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separate purposes.
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>> Okay, what's the first one?
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>> First, as we touched on regarding
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vulnerability, they're conducting a
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chemical safety check.
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>> Are there predator scents like a coyote
12:44
or a fox lingering nearby that their
12:46
eyes and ears missed?
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>> Oh, so checking for invisible threats,
12:50
>> right? But second, and arguably more
12:53
importantly in domestic setting, they
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are reading the local social media feed
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of other animals,
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>> checking the local timeline.
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>> Exactly. They need to know if the
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territory is already claimed before they
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invest their own chemical resources into
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marking it
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>> because they possess the vomo nasal
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organ. Right. I read that in the source.
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They aren't just smelling the grass.
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They are chemically analyzing it.
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>> Precisely. They are routing those
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complex molecules to the Jacobson's
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organ at the roof of their mouth to
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decode the pherommones left by previous
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visitors.
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>> That's so advanced.
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>> They're assessing the intricate social
13:27
dynamics of that specific patch of
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grass. Who has been here recently? Was
13:32
it a dominant local dog? Was it a
13:34
strange dog passing through?
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>> Is the scent fresh or is it days old?
13:38
>> Exactly. Are they a threat to my
13:40
territory or are they a potential mate?
13:43
By deeply reading the existing scent
13:44
landscape, the dog can make a highly
13:46
calculated strategic decision.
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>> Do they want to overwrite someone else's
13:50
marker and issue a territorial challenge
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or just move 10 ft away and avoid a
13:55
dispute?
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>> It is a sophisticated datadriven
13:58
decision, not just a random squat in the
14:00
park.
14:01
>> It's literally the K9 equivalent of
14:03
reading the comment section before
14:05
posting your own controversial opinion.
14:07
>> Yes, exactly. You want to know exactly
14:09
what the vibe and the hostility level of
14:11
the room is first. And you know,
14:13
speaking of invisible environmental
14:15
forces that dogs are mapping, there is a
14:18
scientific fact regarding this dance
14:20
that absolutely blew my mind when I read
14:22
the research.
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>> The magnetic field study.
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>> Yes. It turns out healthy dogs actually
14:27
use this circling routine to actively
14:30
align their bodies with the Earth's
14:31
natural magnetic field. What's
14:33
fascinating here is the sheer scale of
14:36
the scientific research that went into
14:38
proving this phenomena
14:39
>> because it sounds like science fiction
14:40
at first.
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>> It really does. But this wasn't a small
14:43
study. Researchers, particularly a
14:46
famous 2013 study published in Frontiers
14:48
in Zoology, spent over 2 years
14:50
meticulously observing thousands of
14:52
instances of dogs eliminating
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>> thousands of times. That's dedication.
14:56
>> Truly. And they ruled out every other
14:59
environmental variable. They ruled out
15:01
the position of the sun, the time of
15:03
day, the direction of the wind, the
15:06
slope of the ground.
15:06
>> So, it wasn't just them avoiding the
15:08
wind in their face.
15:09
>> No. And they found that when the Earth's
15:11
magnetic field is calm, meaning there
15:13
are no solar flares or magnetic storms
15:16
disrupting the magnetosphere, dogs
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exhibit a profound statistically
15:21
significant preference for aligning
15:23
their bodies along the north south
15:25
magnetic axis when they defecate. along
15:27
the north south axis. That is wild.
15:30
>> So the circling therefore isn't just
15:32
about flattening grass or leaving paw
15:34
pherommones. It is literally an internal
15:37
calibration process.
15:38
>> It's magneto reception. They're acting
15:40
like a biological compass needle. Yes.
15:42
They're spinning and micro adjusting
15:44
their angle until they feel that they
15:45
are locked into that specific magnetic
15:47
flow.
15:47
>> Exactly. We are still uncovering the
15:49
exact biological mechanism behind it.
15:51
Whether it involves cryptochromes in
15:53
their eyes allowing them to visually
15:55
perceive the magnetic lines.
15:56
>> Wait, they might be able to see the
15:58
magnetic field.
15:59
>> It's possible. Or could be microscopic
16:02
iron particles in their cells that allow
16:04
them to feel a physical pull.
16:06
>> Oh,
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>> but the behavioral result is undeniable.
16:08
When they spin, they are seeking that
16:11
north south alignment because it
16:13
provides them with a baseline
16:15
physiological comfort. That is just wild
16:18
to conceptualize because you know we
16:20
stand there holding the leash looking at
16:22
them and we think they're just being
16:23
incredibly picky and annoying about a
16:25
specific patch of clover
16:27
>> when really they are calibrating.
16:28
>> Yes, they are actually connecting to
16:30
primal planetary forces. It gives them
16:33
this innate sense of grounding. You have
16:35
this modern dog, a creature that lives
16:37
in a climate controlled house, sleeps on
16:39
a memory foam bed,
16:40
>> eats food out of a plastic puddle toy.
16:43
>> Exactly. And yet the moment they step
16:44
onto the grass, they are still taking
16:47
the deliberate time to sync their
16:49
central nervous system up with the
16:50
magnetic poles of the earth, just
16:52
exactly like their wolf ancestors did on
16:55
the tundra.
16:55
>> It perfectly illustrates why we as
16:57
handlers and owners shouldn't view these
17:00
behaviors as mere annoyances or quirks.
17:02
There is a profound evolutionary
17:05
chemical and planetary alignment
17:07
happening in that brief moment. It's a
17:09
deep-seated psychological need that
17:12
provides them with an immense sense of
17:14
security during a vulnerable act.
17:16
>> But having said all of that about
17:17
universal canine traits, while all dogs
17:20
have these same evolutionary and
17:22
planetary instincts baked deep into
17:24
their DNA, a 150 lb Great Dane does not
17:27
perform this dance the exact same way a
17:30
sixpound Chihuahua does.
17:31
>> Oh, certainly not. It's not a universal
17:33
standardized one-sizefits-all routine,
17:36
which leads us to explore how breed
17:38
genetics, physical size, and even their
17:40
individual life experiences completely
17:43
alter the spectrum of the dance.
17:44
>> The variation is incredible once you
17:46
know what to look for. The pooping dance
17:48
varies wildly across the canine
17:50
spectrum. And to understand a specific
17:52
dog's routine, we have to look at the
17:54
intersection of their breed's internal
17:55
drive and their physical presence in the
17:57
environment.
17:58
>> So, let's break that down. Start with
17:59
the working dogs. Okay, let's take high
18:01
energy hurting breeds. Your border
18:03
collies, your Australian Shepherds, your
18:04
Belgian Malinoi.
18:05
>> The really intense dogs,
18:07
>> very intense. These dogs have been
18:09
selectively bred for centuries to
18:11
possess incredibly strong predatory
18:14
sequences, working instincts, and
18:16
hypervigilance.
18:18
Their internal neurological engines are
18:20
essentially always running hot,
18:22
>> right? Their baseline for environmental
18:24
awareness is practically through the
18:25
roof. So, their physical dance is going
18:27
to reflect that kinetic energy. You'll
18:29
often see these working breeds perform
18:31
highly vigorous, physically elaborate
18:34
routines. They don't just do a slow
18:36
circle. They might do wide sweeping
18:38
arcs, pace back and forth rapidly, stamp
18:41
their feet aggressively,
18:42
>> really kicking up the dirt,
18:43
>> and engage in a lot of intense darting
18:45
head movements. Their bodies are primed
18:47
for explosive action at any second. So,
18:49
their safety check is highly kinetic.
18:52
They need to clear a much larger
18:53
physical and psychological space to feel
18:55
secure. And in stark contrast, when you
18:58
observe smaller dogs like Chihuahua,
19:00
Pomeranians, or Yorkshire terriers, they
19:03
exhibit a much more subdued, tightly
19:05
controlled dance.
19:06
>> A very different routine entirely.
19:08
>> And that makes total sense when you
19:10
think about the geometry of their
19:11
perspective. To a Chihuahua, an average
19:14
patch of unmode suburban grass is
19:17
basically a dense, terrifying jungle.
19:19
>> It's towering over them.
19:21
>> Exactly. Their physical presence is
19:23
incredibly tiny compared to their
19:24
surroundings. So, a vigorous,
19:27
wide-ranging, aggressive dance simply
19:29
isn't practical.
19:30
>> No, it would be exhausting.
19:31
>> And more importantly, it might actually
19:33
draw unwanted attention from predators
19:35
like hawks or larger dogs. Their routine
19:38
is tighter, highly localized, and deeply
19:41
influenced by their sheer vulnerability
19:43
regarding their physical size.
19:45
>> The intensity of the ritual scales
19:47
proportionally with their physical
19:48
reality. A small dog relies on going
19:51
unnoticed, while a large working dog
19:53
relies on dominating the space.
19:55
>> That's a great distinction,
19:56
>> but it's crucial to understand that it's
19:58
not just about genetics and physical
19:59
size. The role of nurture,
20:01
socialization, and individual
20:03
personality is massive here.
20:04
>> Oh, absolutely.
20:05
>> A dog that is naturally confident, well
20:07
adjusted, and playful will have a much
20:09
more spirited, fluid, and relaxed
20:12
routine than a dog that is naturally
20:14
fearful or reserved. And this is where
20:16
the research in the article gets deeply
20:18
poignant. Honestly, it points out how
20:20
early life experiences can essentially
20:23
rewrite this ancient instinctual dance.
20:26
>> It's very true.
20:27
>> If you have a rescue dog or a dog that
20:29
unfortunately suffered from harsh
20:31
punitive training methods or grew up in
20:33
an unstable, highly stressful
20:35
environment, their pooping dance is
20:37
going to look very different from a
20:39
confident dogs.
20:40
>> They might show a tremendous amount of
20:41
hesitation.
20:42
>> Yeah. They might start to circle,
20:43
suddenly stop, look around anxiously,
20:46
tuck their tail, try to circle again,
20:48
and seem completely unable to commit to
20:51
the squat.
20:51
>> It becomes a disjointed, fragmented,
20:54
highly anxious dance.
20:55
>> Whereas a well socialized dog who feels
20:58
inherently safe in their environment and
21:00
trusts their handler will perform the
21:02
ritual with a relaxed, fluid, almost
21:05
thoughtless confidence.
21:06
>> It serves as a beautiful, albeit
21:08
sometimes heartbreaking indicator their
21:09
internal mental state. The dance, as we
21:12
established, requires the dog to
21:14
willingly enter a state of supreme
21:17
vulnerability.
21:18
>> And if they're traumatized, they can't
21:20
do that,
21:20
>> right? A dog carrying emotional trauma
21:23
or chronic anxiety fundamentally
21:25
struggles to accept that vulnerability.
21:28
>> Their brain is telling them the
21:29
environment is never truly safe enough
21:31
to drop their guard.
21:32
>> I instantly thought about how humans
21:34
perform the act of public speaking,
21:36
which is our own version of extreme
21:38
psychological vulnerability. Oh, that's
21:40
a brilliant comparison.
21:41
>> Think about it. A confident person,
21:43
someone who feels totally secure in
21:45
their expertise and the environment.
21:47
They stride up to the microphone, they
21:49
take one sweeping look at the audience,
21:52
plant their feet solidly, and just start
21:54
talking.
21:54
>> The movement is fluid and purposeful.
21:57
>> Exactly. But an anxious person, someone
22:00
who maybe had a humiliating experience
22:02
on stage in the past, they shuffle up to
22:05
the mic awkwardly. They adjust the stand
22:07
repeatedly, even if it was already at
22:08
the right height.
22:09
>> They clear their throat, look down at
22:11
their notes,
22:11
>> right? They shuffle their feet again,
22:13
maybe take a sip of water they don't
22:14
need. They are performing all these
22:17
nervous micro adjustments because they
22:19
do not feel psychologically safe
22:21
committing to the vulnerable act of
22:23
speaking.
22:24
>> That is so accurate.
22:25
>> The traumatized dogs disjointed stop and
22:28
start dance is exactly that. It's
22:30
adjusting the mic stand over and over
22:32
because they're terrified of the
22:33
audience. That is a brilliant way to
22:35
conceptualize the psychology behind it.
22:38
And if we accept that a dog's life
22:40
experience and their baseline
22:42
psychological anxiety can alter their
22:45
physical dance so visibly.
22:46
>> But then what about physical changes?
22:48
>> Well, it logically follows that sudden
22:50
uncharacteristic changes in the ritual
22:53
can actually serve as a powerful
22:55
diagnostic tool for their internal
22:57
physical health,
22:58
>> which is vital actionable information
23:00
for any owner paying attention.
23:02
>> Absolutely. So, we need to talk about
23:04
deciphering these health codes because
23:05
this is where observation becomes
23:07
intervention.
23:08
When does the dance cross the line from
23:10
being a quirky instinctual habit or a
23:13
reflection of breed traits to becoming a
23:15
giant flashing red flag that something
23:17
is medically wrong?
23:18
>> Well, the first step is knowing normal,
23:20
>> right? Logically, we have to establish
23:22
the healthy baseline for our specific
23:24
dog. A healthy dog with a correctly
23:26
functioning gastrointestinal tract
23:29
performs a rhythmic, consistent circling
23:31
pattern. Usually, it's just a few
23:34
deliberate, purposeful circles before
23:36
they confidently squat and eliminate.
23:39
>> The hallmark of the healthy baseline is
23:41
efficiency. They go through the
23:42
checklist. They do the visual and
23:44
auditory safety check. They read the
23:46
pheromone email.
23:47
>> They align their bodies magnetically.
23:49
>> Exactly. They lay down the pawant and
23:50
they eliminate. It is a smooth,
23:53
practiced daily operation that they
23:55
complete without distress.
23:56
>> But let me ask you this. Playing the
23:58
role of a completely new dog owner here.
24:00
If I just adopted an Australian Shepherd
24:02
and I listen to what we just discussed
24:03
about hurting breeds having vigorous,
24:06
elaborate, high energy dances,
24:07
>> right? They can be intense.
24:08
>> How do I practically tell the difference
24:10
between my dog just being a high energy
24:12
hurting breed doing their normal
24:13
dramatic dance and an actual brewing
24:16
medical problem? Where are the
24:17
boundaries? That is the essential
24:19
question for any responsible handler.
24:22
The key distinction lies in recognizing
24:24
the subtle difference between vigorous
24:26
purpose and frantic distress.
24:28
>> Frantic distress. Okay.
24:30
>> Expert veterary insights detail very
24:33
specific red flags that require
24:35
immediate professional advice. We are
24:37
looking for excessive circling.
24:39
>> Like how excessive?
24:41
>> Meaning they circle endlessly looking
24:42
almost manic without ever seeming to
24:45
find satisfaction or comfort in the
24:46
spot. We are also looking for a highly
24:49
extended duration before elimination.
24:51
>> Okay. So, if they keep trying and
24:53
failing.
24:54
>> Yes. If you were walking for two miles
24:56
and they are circling a dozen different
24:58
perfectly acceptable spots, but walking
25:00
away from all of them with a tense body
25:02
posture, that is a massive warning sign.
25:05
>> So, the core issue is the sudden
25:06
inability to complete the ritual they
25:08
normally finish in 30 seconds.
25:10
>> Yes. And that inability is almost always
25:12
accompanied by subtle or overt physical
25:14
signs of distress. We were talking about
25:17
restlessness, vocalizations like whining
25:20
or soft whimpering during the circling
25:21
process.
25:22
>> Oh, whining is never a good sign.
25:23
>> Never. Or highly unusual posturing. If
25:27
they initiate the squat and then
25:28
immediately abort the mission, stand
25:30
back up and start frantically circling
25:32
again.
25:32
>> Oh no.
25:33
>> Or if they are clearly having difficulty
25:36
finding a spot despite being in their
25:38
own perfectly safe, incredibly familiar
25:40
backyard where they've gone a thousand
25:42
times before.
25:42
>> This raises an important question.
25:45
What exactly do these distress signals
25:48
point to internally? Because the dog
25:50
obviously can't tell us where it hurts,
25:51
>> right? They mask pain well too.
25:53
>> The research mentions a whole spectrum
25:55
of issues, right? Acute gastrointestinal
25:57
distress, altered stool consistency like
26:00
impending diarrhea or severe
26:02
constipation,
26:02
>> immense internal discomfort, or sudden
26:05
extreme environmental anxiety.
26:06
>> So, how do we read that?
26:08
>> To understand the red flag, think about
26:10
what the circling biologically achieves.
26:12
It's supposed to create a state of
26:14
physical and psychological comfort
26:15
before a vulnerable act.
26:17
>> Okay. Yes.
26:18
>> Now, introduce a medical variable. If a
26:20
dog has a gastrointestinal blockage or
26:22
severe bowel inflammation or even
26:24
orthopedic issues like early stage
26:26
osteoarthritis or hip dysplasia.
26:28
>> Oh. Because they have to bend their legs
26:29
so deeply to squat.
26:31
>> Exactly. Making the deep bending of the
26:34
hind legs acutely painful. If that's
26:36
happening, no amount of spinning or
26:39
grass trampling is going to make them
26:40
comfortable.
26:41
>> Wow. Their ancient instinct is screaming
26:43
at them to circle to find comfort. But
26:46
the internal physical pain is overriding
26:48
it and preventing the completion of the
26:50
act. So they get stuck in a horrible,
26:53
frustrating neurological loop.
26:54
>> That sounds awful.
26:55
>> They circle to prepare. They try to
26:58
squat. They feel a sharp pain in their
27:00
hips or a cramp in their gut. They
27:02
immediately abort the process to avoid
27:04
the pain.
27:05
>> And then their instinct just resets and
27:07
tells them to circle again to find a
27:08
better spot.
27:09
>> Exactly.
27:10
>> Wow. So they are basically trapped by
27:12
their own survival instincts,
27:14
desperately trying to solve an internal
27:16
biological medical problem with an
27:18
external environmental ritual.
27:20
>> It's very sad to watch when you know
27:22
what's happening.
27:22
>> That is genuinely heartbreaking to think
27:24
about. And the research strongly
27:26
emphasizes that if you see a sudden
27:28
uncharacteristic reluctance to eliminate
27:30
in previously comfortable environments,
27:32
it means the dog's internal biological
27:35
alarm system is going off
27:37
>> loud and clear. And this requires
27:39
professional veterinary care,
27:40
diagnostics, maybe an X-ray or a fecal
27:42
exam, not behavioral correction. You
27:45
absolutely cannot train a dog out of GI
27:48
distress or hip pain.
27:50
>> You cannot. And misinterpreting that
27:52
frantic distress as stubbornness, spite,
27:54
or misbehavior is a tragic, albeit
27:57
common, mistake owners make
27:59
>> because they think the dog is just being
28:00
defiant.
28:01
>> Right? If the routine suddenly changes
28:03
from efficient to agonizing, your very
28:06
first stop should be the veterinary
28:07
clinic, not calling the local dog
28:09
trainer, or pulling harder on the leash.
28:11
>> Which perfectly brings us to the final
28:13
and perhaps most important piece of the
28:15
puzzle here, actionable empathy.
28:17
>> I love that term
28:18
>> because identifying these red flags is
28:20
really only half the battle. As the
28:21
listener, as a dedicated dog owner, you
28:24
need to know exactly how to actively
28:25
support your dog when you step outside
28:27
your front door with that leash in hand.
28:29
>> It's about practical application,
28:30
>> right?
28:31
The synthesis of all this science gives
28:33
some fantastic, incredibly simple tips
28:36
for properly interpreting and supporting
28:38
this pre- pooping behavior. So, what
28:41
does this all mean for us?
28:43
>> It really fundamentally comes down to
28:45
active, engaged observation. We need to
28:47
break the habit of looking down at our
28:49
phones, scrolling social media, and
28:52
ignoring the dog on the end of the
28:53
leash.
28:54
>> I am definitely guilty of that.
28:55
>> We all are. But we need to start looking
28:57
at our dogs during these crucial
28:59
moments. By simply observing their body
29:01
language, you can learn so much. Are
29:03
they comfortably assessing sense with a
29:05
relaxed, wagging tail, normal breathing,
29:08
and engaged but soft ears?
29:10
>> Or are they frantic?
29:11
>> Right? Are they frantically pacing,
29:12
panting heavily, whining with a tucked
29:14
tail, and tense shoulders? Just by
29:17
watching, you can immediately gauge
29:18
their current baseline anxiety level and
29:21
their internal digestive comfort. So for
29:23
the person holding the leash on a
29:24
freezing windy morning when they are
29:26
running late for work and just want the
29:27
dog to hurry up and go, what should they
29:29
do?
29:30
>> Well, it means we have to consciously
29:31
create a comfortable, stress-free potty
29:34
environment completely, regardless of
29:37
our own hectic human schedule.
29:39
>> The experts give highly actionable steps
29:41
here in the article. First, allow your
29:43
dog the time to actually sniff.
29:45
>> Don't drag them away from a scent,
29:47
>> right? Respect their biological need for
29:49
a specific ground texture under their
29:52
paw pads. Respect their need for
29:54
privacy, too. If they are a shy dog who
29:56
likes to back up into a bush to protect
29:58
their rear flank, let them.
30:00
>> And make them feel secure.
30:01
>> And above all else, do not artificially
30:04
rush or interrupt the circling process.
30:06
>> That patience is so critically
30:08
important. When we finally understand
30:11
the profound evolutionary weight, the
30:13
complex sensory processing, and the
30:15
magnetic alignment involved in this
30:17
behavior, it inherently and permanently
30:19
improves our daily handling and training
30:21
methods.
30:22
>> It changes your whole perspective.
30:24
>> When you impatiently tug on the leash
30:25
and snap, hurry up, because your dog is
30:27
taking 30 seconds too long to spin, you
30:30
are just interrupting a mundane bathroom
30:32
break.
30:32
>> You're ruining the ritual. You are
30:35
actively physically interrupting a
30:38
highly complex, deeply ingrained ritual
30:40
of safety assessment, spatial alignment,
30:43
and vital olfactory communication. You
30:46
are basically yanking them violently out
30:49
of their deeply programmed security
30:51
protocol.
30:52
>> Exactly. Going right back to our
30:53
crosswalk analogy from earlier, tugging
30:56
the luch while they are trying to
30:57
calibrate is like someone randomly
30:59
shoving you from behind while you're
31:01
trying to send that urgent text in the
31:02
middle of heavy traffic. It would be
31:04
terrifying.
31:04
>> It massively spikes their adrenaline and
31:06
anxiety. It tells their nervous system
31:08
that the environment is absolutely not
31:10
safe, which is the exact polar opposite
31:13
of the physiological state they need to
31:15
be in to actually relax their bowels and
31:17
do their business.
31:18
>> And conversely, over time, deliberately
31:21
accommodating this quirky ancient habit
31:24
does something quite beautiful to the
31:25
human animal bond.
31:26
>> It builds trust. It completely
31:28
transforms the daily walk from a tedious
31:30
chore, a mere transaction of waste
31:32
removal into a shared interspecies
31:35
language.
31:35
>> Oh, I love that. A shared language.
31:37
>> When you purposefully stop,
31:40
intentionally loosen the pinchion on the
31:42
leash, and give them the quiet space and
31:44
time to deeply read the local sense,
31:47
align their bodies with the Earth's
31:49
magnetic field, and perform their
31:51
ancestral dance without pressure. You
31:53
are communicating something profound.
31:55
>> You're saying, "I got you." Exactly. You
31:57
are telling them, "I understand exactly
31:59
what you need to feel safe right now. I
32:01
am standing watch and I've got your
32:02
back."
32:03
>> That's incredibly powerful.
32:04
>> It fosters incredibly deep psychological
32:06
trust. It significantly reduces the
32:09
dog's baseline cortisol and stress
32:11
levels and ultimately it vastly improves
32:13
their overall quality of life and their
32:15
connection to you as their protector.
32:17
>> It is without a doubt the ultimate act
32:19
of daily empathy we can offer them. You
32:22
are validating their deepest, oldest
32:23
instincts
32:24
>> every single day. So, as we wrap up this
32:26
deep dive into the fascinating world of
32:28
K9 behavior, I want to leave you, the
32:30
listener, with a final provocative
32:33
thought to ponder on your own.
32:34
>> Something to think about on your next
32:36
walk.
32:36
>> Exactly. Tomorrow morning or later
32:38
tonight, when you take that final walk
32:39
of the day, the next time you are
32:41
standing on the damp pavement watching
32:43
your dog spin in endless circles in the
32:45
grass, don't just sigh heavily and check
32:48
your watch.
32:48
>> Just pause.
32:49
>> Stop for a second. Ask yourself what
32:52
invisible complex chemical map of
32:55
territorial pherommones they are
32:57
currently reading. Think about the
32:59
invisible magnetic lines of the earth
33:01
that they are delicately aligning their
33:03
bodies with.
33:04
>> Think about the history.
33:05
>> Think about the ancient 40,000year-old
33:08
wolf memories echoing in their mind,
33:10
telling them how to survive in a world
33:12
you were completely blind to. It's a
33:15
powerful, humbling reminder that even
33:17
our most domesticated, pampered,
33:19
couch-loving best friends are still at
33:22
their absolute core wonderfully and
33:25
undeniably wild at heart.
33:26
>> It truly is a profound privilege to
33:28
share our modern lives with them,
33:30
especially once we finally take the time
33:32
to learn and speak their ancient
33:33
language. If you want to learn more, we
33:35
recommend to jump in Dogazilla magazine
33:36
and read the original in-depth article
33:38
and find much more answers.
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