NBA In-Season Tournament Makes No Sense
Griffin & Bass discuss the NBA's idea for an in-season tournament.
Griffin & Bass are confused by the NBA's idea.
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0:00
There's no reason for me to watch this tournament more than there is for me to just watch a regular season game anyway
0:05
Maybe you'll get some more fans who only watch the playoffs, watch this tournament
0:10
So I guess it's probably where the NBA is coming from. But other than that, like for me, is somebody who watches as many regular season games as I can
0:19
not just from the Pissons, the national games, NBA League Pass, all that stuff. This is, it just seems like a bad idea to me because of somebody who watches these games anyway
0:30
So I don't need an extra incentive or a reason, and I'm never going to be bragging that the Pistons won this in-season tournament that nobody cares about
0:40
If they go on, they even miss the playing game or something. So I just, I honestly God, I don't understand it
0:46
If you did like maybe the winner of this game, the winner of this tournament, they automatically get a playing spot if they're not already a playoff team
0:53
But the team probably winning this tournament is probably going to be a playoff team anyway. So I don't know how much of an incentive there really is to it
1:01
And as a fan of basketball, who watches games anyway, this seems like a horrible idea
1:07
And I don't understand it. It seems stupid. I'd want no parts of it
1:14
Not all change is good. We've seen some change happening. The play in tournament has made it interesting that if you are the 10 seed or the 9 seed, you still have a chance to make the playoffs
1:25
were in years past until two years ago. That wasn't happening. If you were nine or 10 or 11, 12, 13
1:32
you were watching just like us from your couch. It was 1 through 8 and that was that
1:36
The playing tournament is great for the bubble, especially, obviously in the COVID shortened season and the disjointed season
1:43
It was definitely interesting this year and we had some fun stories out of it. The Minnesota Timberwolves crying after winning the playing game
1:50
But we live in an era now where NBA players take off
1:55
so many games in a season. The whole rest and the scheduled rest and all this stuff
2:01
So with this play in tournament, is this just a guarantee that we're going to see all
2:06
the bench players playing? Because is LeBron James going to play in this playing tournament
2:11
Is Kevin Durant? Is Steph Curry? Are these guys going to play in this play in tournament
2:15
I don see a scenario yet where they going to feel like they should And we don even know that it a playing tournament It was the prize Is it just money No Yeah sorry The in season not the playing
2:29
The in season tournament, sorry. You know, if I was John is or Lugar or somebody like that
2:33
No, there's no reason for me to play in this game. It doesn't make any sense or to play in these games more so than there is, again
2:41
for me to just play in a regular season game. There's no, I don't, I wouldn't understand the incentive because even if you did make it a financial
2:48
like financially based. Janice, Luca, John, I just signed the extension. LeBron, like you mentioned
2:56
like all those guys are already making crazy amount of money. So while to a bench player
3:01
a million dollars might be 50% of their salary, 40% of what they're already making
3:07
to LeBron and Janus and all those guys, like to them it's pennies
3:12
So maybe it just would be a showcase of the second and third units
3:16
on these teams because, I don't know how, I don't know what carrot you would dangle in front of LeBron
3:24
Steph Curry, any of those guys to make them want to play in this little tournament
3:29
more so than they would on just a regular Tuesday night against the Timberwolves or something
3:37
Oh, I know what carrot you dangle, but I don't think the NBA is ever going to do it
3:41
The carrot you dangle is you win this in-season tournament and you are guaranteed no worse than a sixth seed in the playoffs
3:47
no matter how much how the rest of the NBA season goes if you are guaranteed a six seed or better
3:53
and obviously if your play is better throughout the year you would get whatever seeds you got just through that
3:59
but look at LeBron this last year missed the playoffs. Lakers were garbage if they had won the in season
4:05
tournament and were guaranteed to be the sixth seed in the NBA playoffs that's a carrot worth playing
4:12
for in trying to win the playing tournament having your star players play in it because sometimes stuff happens
4:17
and the season doesn't go the way you think it would, and this is so early in the season
4:21
to bag yourself this guarantee of you're not facing the one or the two seed in the first round
4:26
You're guaranteed to face the three seed or the four seed, unless you are one of those higher seeds, obviously
4:33
But to me, that's the carrot that would have to be dangled to get everyone involved and all your best players involved
4:40
But I don't think the NBA is ever going to do that. No way do I think they should So if you look at college basketball they have the battle for Atlanta and the Hawaii Nike class of championship whatever it called all those tournaments where you get Michigan State playing Gonzaga or Memphis or somebody like that right
4:57
Those tournaments, they only count for in strength of schedule, really, and quality wins
5:02
Those don't matter in the NBA. It doesn't matter who you beat. It just matters how many wins you rack up
5:06
And then they have the conference tournaments in college, which if you win that, you're guaranteed a bid into the big tournament
5:12
which is what you're suggesting, like, no other than the sixth seed. But if this is going to be held right before Christmas or right around Christmas
5:20
that doesn't make sense to me. At least with the conference tournament in college
5:23
not that that makes so much sense to me either because you just played this whole season. But at least that's at the end of the season
5:29
So if you win that, you have, you can reasonably say, hey, we're the best team in the conference right now
5:34
Let us play in March where it's won and done. And I think everybody's cool with that
5:38
This is playoffs start in like April. this is what three or four months before the playoffs start because you had a
5:47
however a week two weeks because you were the best team in the NBA for 14 days
5:52
four months ago now you like now you're guaranteed to get a six seed like that part
5:56
doesn't make any like sense to me either that's not the crap all over your idea because
6:00
I had something similar with the playing thing but I'm just thinking about it out loud now
6:05
and it doesn't like it literally doesn't make any sense I don't think there's anything
6:09
you. Oh, I'm not saying it did. I don't think there's anything you can do to have these guys play in this game. I really don't, or in these games
6:19
I get the idea of shaking things up. We're living in a different world now with people are complaining about the length of the NBA season. Like it's a baseball season of 162 games. It's been 82 games for forever. So it's not like this is something that's new. And they're talking about how this play in, you know, tournament or sorry, in season tournament
6:39
shorten the NBA season by a few games, four games. It's 78 versus 82, really that big of a difference
6:46
I don't think so. I don't think it's something that we're going to notice where fans are like, oh, God, that felt so much better without those four extra games
6:52
Like, 78 to 82 is not that big of a difference to me. And this in-season tournament, I don't know how they're going to make it matter
6:59
My idea is how you make it matter. I'm not saying I want that to happen, although I would love it if the Pistons win it
7:05
and they guaranteed a six in the east while finishing the season with 30 She wins Like I would love for that to happen for our teams when our teams are bad But the way it going right now the way it looks it going to end up being a final
7:19
four of the Kings and the Pistons and the Thunder and the Magic
7:24
Like it's going to be like the four worst teams that have no business being in the
7:27
playoff because they're the ones that are actually going to play their starters to showcase them and get them more time in this situation
7:33
Whereas the real teams that have a chance to fight for a champion. championship and those star players who have been known for sitting out and missing a bunch of
7:41
games, a la LeBron, Kevin Durant, what have you. There's no reason for them. And so that's my whole
7:47
idea on them guaranteeing at least a six seed is the reason for them to play it. Do I want them
7:52
to do it? No. But it's the thing in my head that makes the most sense to make it matter to the
7:56
players to want to be involved in it. Now, players have apparently expressed to Adam Silver that
8:02
they're there for this idea. They got behind the play in. tournament more than people thought they would
8:08
But this is a different animal. And I understand the idea. And when you're basing off a soccer who doesn't have the playoffs the way the NBA does
8:17
They have a different situation in the Premier League and in La Liga and whatnot
8:22
So it's a different situation for them to have these in season tournaments that happen
8:26
For us, we have the playoffs. The NBA has their playoffs. What's going to happen for the postseason who's going to be involved
8:32
I don't see the point of this. I don't see how they're going to get these stars to stay and play all of these games in a two and a half week period where you're risking injury and it just doesn't, it doesn't make sense
8:49
And obviously this is still something that needs to be fleshed out. This has been brought up vaguely over the last couple of years and then brought up again now recently
8:58
But it obviously still needs to be fleshed out by the NBA to make it matter to the play
9:05
players and obviously to the fans. Despite all of that, I'm going to watch
9:09
Rue games. That's what we have everybody. Right? Despite all of our whining, we will watch when it happens
9:16
because we love hoops and it gives us a chance to watch our guys
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