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The Cloud Show with Magnus Mårtensson ft. Damir Dobric - Ep. 13
Oct 30, 2023
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hello hello everyone welcome back to the
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hello hello everyone welcome back to the
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hello hello everyone welcome back to the cloud show today as every other episode
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cloud show today as every other episode
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cloud show today as every other episode we have a very interesting guest with us
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we have a very interesting guest with us
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we have a very interesting guest with us today we're going to be talking about
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today we're going to be talking about
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today we're going to be talking about things in the space of computational
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things in the space of computational
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things in the space of computational Sciences we're going to be talking about
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Sciences we're going to be talking about
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Sciences we're going to be talking about Ai and and how AI is affecting
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Ai and and how AI is affecting
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Ai and and how AI is affecting everything that we do in technology now
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everything that we do in technology now
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everything that we do in technology now and going forward it's going to be a a
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and going forward it's going to be a a
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and going forward it's going to be a a very interesting show so please welcome
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very interesting show so please welcome
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very interesting show so please welcome to the show damier DOD uh a good friend
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to the show damier DOD uh a good friend
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to the show damier DOD uh a good friend of mine on the cloud show
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of mine on the cloud show
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of mine on the cloud show [Music]
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today welcome
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today welcome
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today welcome sir hi Magnus how are you I'm fine thank
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sir hi Magnus how are you I'm fine thank
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sir hi Magnus how are you I'm fine thank you how about you yeah I'm very good I'm
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you how about you yeah I'm very good I'm
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you how about you yeah I'm very good I'm very good so I'm as always sorry as
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very good so I'm as always sorry as
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very good so I'm as always sorry as always as oh thank you well I'm I'm
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always as oh thank you well I'm I'm
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always as oh thank you well I'm I'm sitting at home uh working uh in my
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sitting at home uh working uh in my
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sitting at home uh working uh in my office this is my my studio as well for
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office this is my my studio as well for
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office this is my my studio as well for the show but you're definitely not at
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the show but you're definitely not at
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the show but you're definitely not at home you're elsewhere where are you no
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home you're elsewhere where are you no
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home you're elsewhere where are you no I'm right now in Frankfurt which is my
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I'm right now in Frankfurt which is my
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I'm right now in Frankfurt which is my hometown but I'm this weekend traveling
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hometown but I'm this weekend traveling
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hometown but I'm this weekend traveling and I'm happy to arrive here on time to
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and I'm happy to arrive here on time to
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and I'm happy to arrive here on time to appear in the show after this show I'm
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appear in the show after this show I'm
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appear in the show after this show I'm going to take a taxi and the drive home
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going to take a taxi and the drive home
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going to take a taxi and the drive home fantastic so you're in the train station
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fantastic so you're in the train station
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fantastic so you're in the train station literally yes I'm kind of here in in in
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literally yes I'm kind of here in in in
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literally yes I'm kind of here in in in a business launch of German Ro brilliant
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a business launch of German Ro brilliant
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a business launch of German Ro brilliant thank you for joining the show today and
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thank you for joining the show today and
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thank you for joining the show today and and thank you for having me talking with
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and thank you for having me talking with
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and thank you for having me talking with us live
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us live
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us live so going back way back we've known each
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so going back way back we've known each
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so going back way back we've known each other for quite some time now ashra has
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other for quite some time now ashra has
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other for quite some time now ashra has had a long journey but we met way back
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had a long journey but we met way back
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had a long journey but we met way back when when did we meet
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when when did we meet
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when when did we meet first I I remember I don't remember the
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first I I remember I don't remember the
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first I I remember I don't remember the year but it is we know each
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year but it is we know each
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year but it is we know each other as long there was asure we met I
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other as long there was asure we met I
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other as long there was asure we met I think in amster I'm not quite sure I
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think in amster I'm not quite sure I
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think in amster I'm not quite sure I think Year 2007 maybe 2008 it was some
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think Year 2007 maybe 2008 it was some
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think Year 2007 maybe 2008 it was some kind of uh how was how was the name some
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kind of uh how was how was the name some
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kind of uh how was how was the name some internal evening meeting with some MVPs
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internal evening meeting with some MVPs
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internal evening meeting with some MVPs and Regal directors and Microsoft
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and Regal directors and Microsoft
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and Regal directors and Microsoft internal stuffs so I think jump start
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internal stuffs so I think jump start
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internal stuffs so I think jump start aure jump start or something yeah yeah
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aure jump start or something yeah yeah
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aure jump start or something yeah yeah and and then this was like early early
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and and then this was like early early
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and and then this was like early early days of the cloud basically oh it was
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days of the cloud basically oh it was
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days of the cloud basically oh it was the days was Azure portal in cite I
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the days was Azure portal in cite I
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the days was Azure portal in cite I remember how was we together fighting
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remember how was we together fighting
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remember how was we together fighting that's that's a long time ago and so
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that's that's a long time ago and so
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that's that's a long time ago and so Asher has grown so much now that it's
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Asher has grown so much now that it's
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Asher has grown so much now that it's almost a ubiquitous thing that that just
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almost a ubiquitous thing that that just
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almost a ubiquitous thing that that just exists everywhere in Microsoft land and
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exists everywhere in Microsoft land and
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exists everywhere in Microsoft land and everything else that Microsoft has buils
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everything else that Microsoft has buils
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everything else that Microsoft has buils on top of Aer very different yeah that's
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on top of Aer very different yeah that's
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on top of Aer very different yeah that's definitely it's totally amazing when I
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definitely it's totally amazing when I
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definitely it's totally amazing when I look back on that time as we met it was
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look back on that time as we met it was
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look back on that time as we met it was like you go one week to some jump start
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like you go one week to some jump start
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like you go one week to some jump start you go home and you know
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you go home and you know
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you go home and you know ASA and today you need a week to count
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ASA and today you need a week to count
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ASA and today you need a week to count services in N that's very true that's
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services in N that's very true that's
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services in N that's very true that's that's exactly right so it's it's grown
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that's exactly right so it's it's grown
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that's exactly right so it's it's grown so much and there's new things things
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so much and there's new things things
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so much and there's new things things coming out all the time uh they just
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coming out all the time uh they just
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coming out all the time uh they just announced some API Center the other day
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announced some API Center the other day
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announced some API Center the other day which is going to be interesting uh to
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which is going to be interesting uh to
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which is going to be interesting uh to have a way to manage your apis within an
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have a way to manage your apis within an
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have a way to manage your apis within an organization and things like that wow
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organization and things like that wow
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organization and things like that wow all right so tell me so on you work as a
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all right so tell me so on you work as a
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all right so tell me so on you work as a consultant right or yes it depends on
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consultant right or yes it depends on
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consultant right or yes it depends on how you defined I'm I'm running actually
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how you defined I'm I'm running actually
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how you defined I'm I'm running actually I own 20 years ago as before Azure yeah
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I own 20 years ago as before Azure yeah
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I own 20 years ago as before Azure yeah a startup which is today successful it's
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a startup which is today successful it's
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a startup which is today successful it's a company in frankt like 25 engineers in
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a company in frankt like 25 engineers in
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a company in frankt like 25 engineers in in Frankfurt we have like 15 people in
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in Frankfurt we have like 15 people in
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in Frankfurt we have like 15 people in India in jabour um maybe you know that
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India in jabour um maybe you know that
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India in jabour um maybe you know that place so we are about 40 Engineers plus
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place so we are about 40 Engineers plus
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place so we are about 40 Engineers plus some stuff around that and I'm a lead
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some stuff around that and I'm a lead
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some stuff around that and I'm a lead software architect there actually CEO
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software architect there actually CEO
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software architect there actually CEO too but I'm more focused on technology
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too but I'm more focused on technology
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too but I'm more focused on technology and the company belong to larger group
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and the company belong to larger group
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and the company belong to larger group is called ACP from Austria it's like
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is called ACP from Austria it's like
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is called ACP from Austria it's like 2,000 people and we are for digital
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2,000 people and we are for digital
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2,000 people and we are for digital transformation Azure so such stuff okay
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transformation Azure so such stuff okay
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transformation Azure so such stuff okay so on a DA on a daily basis you do a lot
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so on a DA on a daily basis you do a lot
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so on a DA on a daily basis you do a lot of azure migrations and that sort of
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of azure migrations and that sort of
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of azure migrations and that sort of stuff definitely so actually we build
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stuff definitely so actually we build
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stuff definitely so actually we build software actually for Azure only yeah
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software actually for Azure only yeah
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software actually for Azure only yeah yeah full time full-time job yeah
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yeah full time full-time job yeah
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yeah full time full-time job yeah perfect and and of course and so you've
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perfect and and of course and so you've
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perfect and and of course and so you've been in Azure since the beginning so you
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been in Azure since the beginning so you
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been in Azure since the beginning so you you focus on H you're an Azure MVP
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you focus on H you're an Azure MVP
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you focus on H you're an Azure MVP you're an Azure iot um MVP as well
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you're an Azure iot um MVP as well
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you're an Azure iot um MVP as well exactly exactly and and a regional
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exactly exactly and and a regional
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exactly exactly and and a regional director so you're all over aure
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director so you're all over aure
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director so you're all over aure basically I'm not no I'm not no but I
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basically I'm not no I'm not no but I
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basically I'm not no I'm not no but I don't think that everybody is all over
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don't think that everybody is all over
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don't think that everybody is all over azur the Azure is so huge it's really
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azur the Azure is so huge it's really
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azur the Azure is so huge it's really probably itic I'm not going I'm not
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probably itic I'm not going I'm not
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probably itic I'm not going I'm not doing some things like LIF and shift I'm
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doing some things like LIF and shift I'm
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doing some things like LIF and shift I'm not that focused on infrastructure
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not that focused on infrastructure
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not that focused on infrastructure actually I'm focused with the company
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actually I'm focused with the company
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actually I'm focused with the company with my team to to build Azure Solutions
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with my team to to build Azure Solutions
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with my team to to build Azure Solutions you have a problem and you solve it by
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you have a problem and you solve it by
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you have a problem and you solve it by software which is running in Azure
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software which is running in Azure
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software which is running in Azure that's what we do and if you for that
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that's what we do and if you for that
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that's what we do and if you for that purpose need some kind of infrastructure
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purpose need some kind of infrastructure
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purpose need some kind of infrastructure like Gateway whatever of course we will
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like Gateway whatever of course we will
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like Gateway whatever of course we will do it but we are not going to some big
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do it but we are not going to some big
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do it but we are not going to some big company and set up networks in Azure
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company and set up networks in Azure
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company and set up networks in Azure that's not our Focus we do development
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that's not our Focus we do development
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that's not our Focus we do development in Azure nothing infastructure brilliant
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in Azure nothing infastructure brilliant
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in Azure nothing infastructure brilliant all right and so now what has happened
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all right and so now what has happened
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all right and so now what has happened in the industry is of course everybody's
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in the industry is of course everybody's
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in the industry is of course everybody's talking about AI a all the things
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talking about AI a all the things
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talking about AI a all the things everything is AI um if it doesn't have
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everything is AI um if it doesn't have
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everything is AI um if it doesn't have ai in front of it it's not interesting
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ai in front of it it's not interesting
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ai in front of it it's not interesting anymore basically it's it's a it's a
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anymore basically it's it's a it's a
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anymore basically it's it's a it's a huge thing right now and and it's going
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huge thing right now and and it's going
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huge thing right now and and it's going places uh with with AI but you you have
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places uh with with AI but you you have
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places uh with with AI but you you have a you have a PhD yourself right you're
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a you have a PhD yourself right you're
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a you have a PhD yourself right you're you're a doctor yes yeah
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you're a doctor yes yeah
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you're a doctor yes yeah you're Sciences yes I'm doctor if you
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you're Sciences yes I'm doctor if you
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you're Sciences yes I'm doctor if you get to seek now I can help you yeah
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get to seek now I can help you yeah
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get to seek now I can help you yeah not that kind of actually can you write
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not that kind of actually can you write
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not that kind of actually can you write prescriptions I give you so actually I'm
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prescriptions I give you so actually I'm
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prescriptions I give you so actually I'm I'm I hold the PHD in computational
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I'm I hold the PHD in computational
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I'm I hold the PHD in computational Sciences I did that on in the UK on
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Sciences I did that on in the UK on
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Sciences I did that on in the UK on University of
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University of
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University of Plymouth and um I'm researching actually
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Plymouth and um I'm researching actually
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Plymouth and um I'm researching actually it's very funny thing and and I'm
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it's very funny thing and and I'm
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it's very funny thing and and I'm researching neocortical algorithm which
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researching neocortical algorithm which
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researching neocortical algorithm which is supposed to run inside of neocortex
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is supposed to run inside of neocortex
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is supposed to run inside of neocortex which is supposed to be organ for
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which is supposed to be organ for
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which is supposed to be organ for intelligence and this should be some
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intelligence and this should be some
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intelligence and this should be some kind of
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kind of
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kind of AI Next Step yeah that sounds really
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AI Next Step yeah that sounds really
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AI Next Step yeah that sounds really complex it definitely flew past my
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complex it definitely flew past my
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complex it definitely flew past my neocortex that's for
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neocortex that's for
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neocortex that's for sure yeah possibly but I'm not quite
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sure yeah possibly but I'm not quite
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sure yeah possibly but I'm not quite sure there is a f there's a group of
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sure there is a f there's a group of
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sure there is a f there's a group of people like few hundred in the word who
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people like few hundred in the word who
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people like few hundred in the word who focus on that it's called probably never
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focus on that it's called probably never
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focus on that it's called probably never heard it's it's called hierarchical
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heard it's it's called hierarchical
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heard it's it's called hierarchical temporal memory which is noat at all
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temporal memory which is noat at all
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temporal memory which is noat at all everything we do actually we read
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everything we do actually we read
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everything we do actually we read neurosciences papers try to discover
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neurosciences papers try to discover
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neurosciences papers try to discover what's happening there because we have a
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what's happening there because we have a
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what's happening there because we have a lot information from the last 200 years
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lot information from the last 200 years
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lot information from the last 200 years let's say uh related to brain how the
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let's say uh related to brain how the
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let's say uh related to brain how the brain works and so on but nobody's doing
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brain works and so on but nobody's doing
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brain works and so on but nobody's doing anything with that really and now the
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anything with that really and now the
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anything with that really and now the guys like me yeah so us yeah software
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guys like me yeah so us yeah software
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guys like me yeah so us yeah software developer and so on they are trying to
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developer and so on they are trying to
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developer and so on they are trying to take this information and to make
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take this information and to make
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take this information and to make something useful and that's actually
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something useful and that's actually
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something useful and that's actually what I do I also implemented all this
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what I do I also implemented all this
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what I do I also implemented all this stuff in of course in cop.net and so on
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stuff in of course in cop.net and so on
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stuff in of course in cop.net and so on that's all technology and I have some
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that's all technology and I have some
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that's all technology and I have some kind of five or six Publications last
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kind of five or six Publications last
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kind of five or six Publications last few years
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few years
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few years and that's what I do I would say this is
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and that's what I do I would say this is
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and that's what I do I would say this is kind of Hobby and I hope soon to be able
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kind of Hobby and I hope soon to be able
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kind of Hobby and I hope soon to be able to earn some money with
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to earn some money with
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to earn some money with that that's
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that that's
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that that's always yeah definitely you earn money
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always yeah definitely you earn money
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always yeah definitely you earn money with the thing that you study um or
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with the thing that you study um or
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with the thing that you study um or research in this case okay so now that
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research in this case okay so now that
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research in this case okay so now that that things are are going all the way
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that things are are going all the way
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that things are are going all the way into um you know fullon AI mode we have
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into um you know fullon AI mode we have
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into um you know fullon AI mode we have open AI we have chat GPT we have all
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open AI we have chat GPT we have all
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open AI we have chat GPT we have all those things uh that that uh build all
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those things uh that that uh build all
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those things uh that that uh build all of Microsoft's very many uh co-pilots to
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of Microsoft's very many uh co-pilots to
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of Microsoft's very many uh co-pilots to help us with everything there's a
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help us with everything there's a
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help us with everything there's a co-pilot in Windows there's a co-pilot
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co-pilot in Windows there's a co-pilot
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co-pilot in Windows there's a co-pilot in everything um what what is there's a
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in everything um what what is there's a
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in everything um what what is there's a lot of changes a lot of churn going on
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lot of changes a lot of churn going on
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lot of changes a lot of churn going on um yes definitely totally surprise
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um yes definitely totally surprise
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um yes definitely totally surprise surprise yeah uh that's also there was I
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surprise yeah uh that's also there was I
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surprise yeah uh that's also there was I don't know who was that on the build
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don't know who was that on the build
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don't know who was that on the build conference this year and Microsoft from
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conference this year and Microsoft from
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conference this year and Microsoft from Microsoft product group I think it was
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Microsoft product group I think it was
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Microsoft product group I think it was somebody from the team Samantha kernel
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somebody from the team Samantha kernel
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somebody from the team Samantha kernel or around that and they have been
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or around that and they have been
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or around that and they have been talking and thinking
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talking and thinking
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talking and thinking about next step in the software which is
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about next step in the software which is
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about next step in the software which is a little bit difficult to explain what
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a little bit difficult to explain what
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a little bit difficult to explain what does it mean but actually if you do any
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does it mean but actually if you do any
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does it mean but actually if you do any kind of software today if you engaged in
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kind of software today if you engaged in
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kind of software today if you engaged in this industry it is not that difficult
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this industry it is not that difficult
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this industry it is not that difficult to explain today the software we say
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to explain today the software we say
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to explain today the software we say it's software we1 let's say yeah uh it
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it's software we1 let's say yeah uh it
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it's software we1 let's say yeah uh it is software implemented on so-called
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is software implemented on so-called
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is software implemented on so-called syntactic languages C Java python name
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syntactic languages C Java python name
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syntactic languages C Java python name it yeah everything is just a syntax
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it yeah everything is just a syntax
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it yeah everything is just a syntax language so now what's happening with
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language so now what's happening with
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language so now what's happening with this large language models uh we have a
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this large language models uh we have a
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this large language models uh we have a possibility to do
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possibility to do
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possibility to do things by talking to the model or
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things by talking to the model or
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things by talking to the model or writing to the model depends on which is
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writing to the model depends on which is
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writing to the model depends on which is obvious thing everybody talking about
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obvious thing everybody talking about
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obvious thing everybody talking about that so now there is this group of guys
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that so now there is this group of guys
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that so now there is this group of guys a product group which is implementing
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a product group which is implementing
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a product group which is implementing these op source project which is called
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these op source project which is called
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these op source project which is called semantic canel inside of Microsoft and I
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semantic canel inside of Microsoft and I
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semantic canel inside of Microsoft and I would personally highly recommend that
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would personally highly recommend that
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would personally highly recommend that thing if you never heard about that
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thing if you never heard about that
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thing if you never heard about that whoever is listening the show take a
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whoever is listening the show take a
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whoever is listening the show take a look on this it could might have a huge
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look on this it could might have a huge
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look on this it could might have a huge impact on the industry and this is
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impact on the industry and this is
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impact on the industry and this is actually something what might be the
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actually something what might be the
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actually something what might be the next era of software like software V2
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next era of software like software V2
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next era of software like software V2 let's say call it that way which is
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let's say call it that way which is
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let's say call it that way which is actually large language driven model
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actually large language driven model
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actually large language driven model driven programming so imagine now you
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driven programming so imagine now you
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driven programming so imagine now you have a code in C you're writing
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have a code in C you're writing
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have a code in C you're writing something and inside of this code you
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something and inside of this code you
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something and inside of this code you need
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need
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need to execute a task which cannot be
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to execute a task which cannot be
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to execute a task which cannot be executed by C but it can be executed by
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executed by C but it can be executed by
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executed by C but it can be executed by chat GPT let's say you asking for
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chat GPT let's say you asking for
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chat GPT let's say you asking for something yeah and this thing give you
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something yeah and this thing give you
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something yeah and this thing give you some information
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some information
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some information back directly back into the syntax of
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back directly back into the syntax of
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back directly back into the syntax of the language and imagine now you are
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the language and imagine now you are
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the language and imagine now you are inside of this model and inside of this
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inside of this model and inside of this
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inside of this model and inside of this model you can also invoke in another
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model you can also invoke in another
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model you can also invoke in another programming language like cop you're in
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programming language like cop you're in
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programming language like cop you're in a model in a large language model you're
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a model in a large language model you're
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a model in a large language model you're doing prompting and say hey tell me
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doing prompting and say hey tell me
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doing prompting and say hey tell me what's the time it is yeah the model
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what's the time it is yeah the model
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what's the time it is yeah the model cannot tell you what's the time it is
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cannot tell you what's the time it is
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cannot tell you what's the time it is obviously need some kind of plugin on
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obviously need some kind of plugin on
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obviously need some kind of plugin on something in that case semantic kle
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something in that case semantic kle
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something in that case semantic kle which go down into to you a function
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which go down into to you a function
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which go down into to you a function which is discovered by some think which
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which is discovered by some think which
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which is discovered by some think which is defined by metadata and so on and you
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is defined by metadata and so on and you
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is defined by metadata and so on and you can do something with this thing so that
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can do something with this thing so that
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can do something with this thing so that means you start in syntactic language
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means you start in syntactic language
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means you start in syntactic language you go into the model from the model go
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you go into the model from the model go
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you go into the model from the model go to the language you good at many times
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to the language you good at many times
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to the language you good at many times and that kind of software it is
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and that kind of software it is
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and that kind of software it is something what is not really clear now
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something what is not really clear now
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something what is not really clear now is it a syntactic or something else it's
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is it a syntactic or something else it's
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is it a syntactic or something else it's a combination between Ai and syntactic
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a combination between Ai and syntactic
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a combination between Ai and syntactic languages and that's something what we
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languages and that's something what we
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languages and that's something what we really never had now and now all my team
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really never had now and now all my team
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really never had now and now all my team now we are trying to build let's name it
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now we are trying to build let's name it
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now we are trying to build let's name it some co-pilots for anything the customer
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some co-pilots for anything the customer
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some co-pilots for anything the customer has any kind of problem we are building
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has any kind of problem we are building
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has any kind of problem we are building a co-pilot when he say these magic word
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a co-pilot when he say these magic word
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a co-pilot when he say these magic word we make you co-pilot it means to us by
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we make you co-pilot it means to us by
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we make you co-pilot it means to us by using semantic or something similar we
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using semantic or something similar we
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using semantic or something similar we are doing this flow between syntax and
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are doing this flow between syntax and
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are doing this flow between syntax and large language model and we build
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large language model and we build
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large language model and we build software based on that so I don't know
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software based on that so I don't know
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software based on that so I don't know how this will look like soon maybe you
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how this will look like soon maybe you
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how this will look like soon maybe you have some opinion of that I can see the
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have some opinion of that I can see the
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have some opinion of that I can see the future but I'm sure that a lot of change
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future but I'm sure that a lot of change
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future but I'm sure that a lot of change we have a lot of changes for example how
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we have a lot of changes for example how
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we have a lot of changes for example how the UI will look like for many things we
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the UI will look like for many things we
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the UI will look like for many things we will not have a UI if you see now what
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will not have a UI if you see now what
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will not have a UI if you see now what is coming in Windows 11 as I update is
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is coming in Windows 11 as I update is
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is coming in Windows 11 as I update is um co-pilot from Windows this thing is
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um co-pilot from Windows this thing is
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um co-pilot from Windows this thing is just a window like if you remember
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just a window like if you remember
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just a window like if you remember Cortana yeah you just type in something
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Cortana yeah you just type in something
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Cortana yeah you just type in something yes and this thing understand you and
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yes and this thing understand you and
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yes and this thing understand you and you don't need UI I know how you work
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you don't need UI I know how you work
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you don't need UI I know how you work with Windows but I don't like this menu
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with Windows but I don't like this menu
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with Windows but I don't like this menu click click click click you go on the
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click click click click you go on the
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click click click click you go on the network adapter you just say no I'll be
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network adapter you just say no I'll be
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network adapter you just say no I'll be able to ask Windows about features and
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able to ask Windows about features and
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able to ask Windows about features and settings and or just like oh change my
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settings and or just like oh change my
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settings and or just like oh change my background to Brown whatever yes exactly
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background to Brown whatever yes exactly
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background to Brown whatever yes exactly I saw that yesterday I was playing with
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I saw that yesterday I was playing with
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I saw that yesterday I was playing with that little bit and I changed some
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that little bit and I changed some
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that little bit and I changed some network adapter settings I changed my
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network adapter settings I changed my
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network adapter settings I changed my resolution because my screen couldn't do
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resolution because my screen couldn't do
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resolution because my screen couldn't do this full full HD and it was like I
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this full full HD and it was like I
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this full full HD and it was like I don't need UI for that I'm not saying we
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don't need UI for that I'm not saying we
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don't need UI for that I'm not saying we will drop the UI for this but uh well
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will drop the UI for this but uh well
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will drop the UI for this but uh well you're gonna have to you you you need to
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you're gonna have to you you you need to
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you're gonna have to you you you need to be able to to know um Rodrigo is is is
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be able to to know um Rodrigo is is is
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be able to to know um Rodrigo is is is having
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having
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having a joining the call today that's very
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a joining the call today that's very
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a joining the call today that's very kind of you Rodrigo thank you for being
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kind of you Rodrigo thank you for being
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kind of you Rodrigo thank you for being on the show in the comment section
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on the show in the comment section
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on the show in the comment section brilliant um so um no you're right I
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brilliant um so um no you're right I
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brilliant um so um no you're right I mean you you need to know what to ask
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mean you you need to know what to ask
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mean you you need to know what to ask for or what to talk to the the the AI
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for or what to talk to the the the AI
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for or what to talk to the the the AI about uh for example in Windows if if
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about uh for example in Windows if if
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about uh for example in Windows if if you're using that in Windows then then
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you're using that in Windows then then
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you're using that in Windows then then um let's let's see if we can trans refer
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um let's let's see if we can trans refer
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um let's let's see if we can trans refer that to something that is is um more
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that to something that is is um more
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that to something that is is um more more useful to a company for example
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more useful to a company for example
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more useful to a company for example right if you're listening to this show
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right if you're listening to this show
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right if you're listening to this show now and you have a business let's say
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now and you have a business let's say
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now and you have a business let's say that you're selling things and
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that you're selling things and
12:39
that you're selling things and complicated Machinery parts and and
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complicated Machinery parts and and
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complicated Machinery parts and and things that that you can as as as a
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things that that you can as as as a
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things that that you can as as as a customer you can maybe Express what
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customer you can maybe Express what
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customer you can maybe Express what you're looking for and and maybe maybe
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you're looking for and and maybe maybe
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you're looking for and and maybe maybe the AI can understand what you're
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the AI can understand what you're
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the AI can understand what you're looking for and try to figure that out
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looking for and try to figure that out
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looking for and try to figure that out and suggest the right things for you um
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and suggest the right things for you um
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and suggest the right things for you um that's similar to to changing settings
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that's similar to to changing settings
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that's similar to to changing settings and when Windows right it is it is
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and when Windows right it is it is
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and when Windows right it is it is definitely and and I would be happy if
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definitely and and I would be happy if
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definitely and and I would be happy if Microsoft soon probably they will do
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Microsoft soon probably they will do
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Microsoft soon probably they will do yeah there's no this thing right now
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yeah there's no this thing right now
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yeah there's no this thing right now yeah but it's coming in the next weeks
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yeah but it's coming in the next weeks
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yeah but it's coming in the next weeks they will sh step by step and there is
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they will sh step by step and there is
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they will sh step by step and there is this things if you are in Windows for
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this things if you are in Windows for
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this things if you are in Windows for example then you are not only connected
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example then you are not only connected
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example then you are not only connected by model GPT model for to the world this
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by model GPT model for to the world this
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by model GPT model for to the world this is pre-rain generated blah blah yeah
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is pre-rain generated blah blah yeah
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is pre-rain generated blah blah yeah it's clear but you are also by Windows
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it's clear but you are also by Windows
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it's clear but you are also by Windows if the windows is a part of the main you
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if the windows is a part of the main you
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if the windows is a part of the main you connect to the
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connect to the
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connect to the graph
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graph
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graph which Bing is not necessarily yeah and
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which Bing is not necessarily yeah and
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which Bing is not necessarily yeah and connected a little bit additional space
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connected a little bit additional space
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connected a little bit additional space of information which you automatically
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of information which you automatically
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of information which you automatically have in yeah yeah so this is I don't I
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have in yeah yeah so this is I don't I
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have in yeah yeah so this is I don't I don't think we can really imagine what
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don't think we can really imagine what
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don't think we can really imagine what happen soon yeah it is really
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happen soon yeah it is really
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happen soon yeah it is really amazing I think it's yeah I think it's
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amazing I think it's yeah I think it's
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amazing I think it's yeah I think it's very interesting that you say that
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very interesting that you say that
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very interesting that you say that because like if you ask you know 10
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because like if you ask you know 10
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because like if you ask you know 10 people what their opinion is about AI
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people what their opinion is about AI
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people what their opinion is about AI presently you'll get about 12 answers or
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presently you'll get about 12 answers or
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presently you'll get about 12 answers or maybe
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maybe
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maybe yes but all negative they will destroy
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yes but all negative they will destroy
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yes but all negative they will destroy our jobs they will kill us you watch
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our jobs they will kill us you watch
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our jobs they will kill us you watch movie Terminator and something that
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movie Terminator and something that
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movie Terminator and something that that's 12 answer like that granted
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that's 12 answer like that granted
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that's 12 answer like that granted you'll get a lot of a lot of the the the
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you'll get a lot of a lot of the the the
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you'll get a lot of a lot of the the the 12 answers in this case will will
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12 answers in this case will will
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12 answers in this case will will definitely be negative and and fearful
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definitely be negative and and fearful
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definitely be negative and and fearful and and people don't know what what to
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and and people don't know what what to
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and and people don't know what what to expect um I I'm not on the negative side
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expect um I I'm not on the negative side
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expect um I I'm not on the negative side really but I also have to I have to
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really but I also have to I have to
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really but I also have to I have to admit that I haven't used enough uh Ai
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admit that I haven't used enough uh Ai
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admit that I haven't used enough uh Ai and and and co-pilots to really feel
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and and and co-pilots to really feel
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and and and co-pilots to really feel that I'm an expert in this yet and I
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that I'm an expert in this yet and I
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that I'm an expert in this yet and I think a lot of a lot of companies are
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think a lot of a lot of companies are
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think a lot of a lot of companies are are like that out there um they they
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are like that out there um they they
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are like that out there um they they want to know how to begin to approach
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want to know how to begin to approach
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want to know how to begin to approach this I think uh that's exactly a good
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this I think uh that's exactly a good
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this I think uh that's exactly a good question that's exactly where the people
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question that's exactly where the people
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question that's exactly where the people uh people coming to us and asking hey
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uh people coming to us and asking hey
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uh people coming to us and asking hey how to start with AI but the same
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how to start with AI but the same
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how to start with AI but the same question was 10 years ago five years ago
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question was 10 years ago five years ago
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question was 10 years ago five years ago depends on where hey I'm digital officer
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depends on where hey I'm digital officer
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depends on where hey I'm digital officer of the company I want to do digital
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of the company I want to do digital
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of the company I want to do digital transformation how to do that it's not
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transformation how to do that it's not
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transformation how to do that it's not very simple that's not right a
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very simple that's not right a
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very simple that's not right a question you have to transform for a
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question you have to transform for a
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question you have to transform for a reason yeah and and we've had similar
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reason yeah and and we've had similar
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reason yeah and and we've had similar questions for like Azure for example
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questions for like Azure for example
15:07
questions for like Azure for example okay so yes yes we we've been we've been
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okay so yes yes we we've been we've been
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okay so yes yes we we've been we've been told that we're supposed to go to Asher
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told that we're supposed to go to Asher
15:12
told that we're supposed to go to Asher that that seems like a good thing that
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that that seems like a good thing that
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that that seems like a good thing that everybody else is doing so now we have
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everybody else is doing so now we have
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everybody else is doing so now we have to do it too we just don't know how to
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to do it too we just don't know how to
15:18
to do it too we just don't know how to do it right that that's exactly I was
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do it right that that's exactly I was
15:21
do it right that that's exactly I was this week a little bit on a trip in AA
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this week a little bit on a trip in AA
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this week a little bit on a trip in AA in Germany and was talking to some to
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in Germany and was talking to some to
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in Germany and was talking to some to customers and and I was surprised that
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customers and and I was surprised that
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customers and and I was surprised that uh I thought the eure is a thing which
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uh I thought the eure is a thing which
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uh I thought the eure is a thing which is done so everybody is in clown and so
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is done so everybody is in clown and so
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is done so everybody is in clown and so that's really not true there are so many
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that's really not true there are so many
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that's really not true there are so many companies out there who are still
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companies out there who are still
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companies out there who are still thinking about that yeah I think that's
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thinking about that yeah I think that's
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thinking about that yeah I think that's a majority I don't yeah I think it's a
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a majority I don't yeah I think it's a
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a majority I don't yeah I think it's a majority too they haven't had the any
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majority too they haven't had the any
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majority too they haven't had the any opportunity to even use Azure and and
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opportunity to even use Azure and and
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opportunity to even use Azure and and the things that we're talking about now
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the things that we're talking about now
15:50
the things that we're talking about now open AI J GTP and various things that
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open AI J GTP and various things that
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open AI J GTP and various things that that are are AI related they all build
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that are are AI related they all build
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that are are AI related they all build on the fundament of using
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on the fundament of using
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on the fundament of using Azure you you have to still have like if
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Azure you you have to still have like if
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Azure you you have to still have like if you have Azure developers they can learn
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you have Azure developers they can learn
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you have Azure developers they can learn how to take advantage of all these AI
16:08
how to take advantage of all these AI
16:08
how to take advantage of all these AI offerings from Microsoft now and it's
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offerings from Microsoft now and it's
16:11
offerings from Microsoft now and it's not going to be a huge step for them to
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not going to be a huge step for them to
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not going to be a huge step for them to get on to that level but as a company
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get on to that level but as a company
16:16
get on to that level but as a company you need to understand what you could be
16:19
you need to understand what you could be
16:19
you need to understand what you could be doing with AI I guess definitely yes
16:23
doing with AI I guess definitely yes
16:23
doing with AI I guess definitely yes that's that's actually exactly as you
16:25
that's that's actually exactly as you
16:25
that's that's actually exactly as you said a few minutes ago if you want to
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said a few minutes ago if you want to
16:27
said a few minutes ago if you want to answer you need to know how to ask the
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answer you need to know how to ask the
16:29
answer you need to know how to ask the right question and this is also for ai
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right question and this is also for ai
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right question and this is also for ai ai is not just a purpose out there I
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ai is not just a purpose out there I
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ai is not just a purpose out there I know everybody needs to discover how to
16:35
know everybody needs to discover how to
16:35
know everybody needs to discover how to use it I know how you do that but after
16:38
use it I know how you do that but after
16:38
use it I know how you do that but after since we have this GPT stuff yeah from
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since we have this GPT stuff yeah from
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since we have this GPT stuff yeah from up AI not necessarily Microsoft I have a
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up AI not necessarily Microsoft I have a
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up AI not necessarily Microsoft I have a monitor uh which is running all the time
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monitor uh which is running all the time
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monitor uh which is running all the time some chat GP it's maybe Azure open
16:51
some chat GP it's maybe Azure open
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some chat GP it's maybe Azure open whatever it's coincidence which one I
16:53
whatever it's coincidence which one I
16:53
whatever it's coincidence which one I use but U it is always there and I
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use but U it is always there and I
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use but U it is always there and I stopped I didn't stop using search
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stopped I didn't stop using search
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stopped I didn't stop using search machines but my my information
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machines but my my information
17:02
machines but my my information observation change yeah I I'm start to
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observation change yeah I I'm start to
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observation change yeah I I'm start to to to develop some kind of empathy to
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to to develop some kind of empathy to
17:08
to to develop some kind of empathy to when to use a search as you go to Google
17:10
when to use a search as you go to Google
17:10
when to use a search as you go to Google Search or whatever yeah and when to use
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Search or whatever yeah and when to use
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Search or whatever yeah and when to use a GPT yeah and I don't know what is the
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a GPT yeah and I don't know what is the
17:15
a GPT yeah and I don't know what is the right answer but somehow by feeling I
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right answer but somehow by feeling I
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right answer but somehow by feeling I always choose the right one it's the
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always choose the right one it's the
17:20
always choose the right one it's the kind of combination GPD is
17:23
kind of combination GPD is
17:23
kind of combination GPD is static knowledge yeah which is not up
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static knowledge yeah which is not up
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static knowledge yeah which is not up toate without old PL and so on uh
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toate without old PL and so on uh
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toate without old PL and so on uh searches life yeah that's difference it
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searches life yeah that's difference it
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searches life yeah that's difference it is and and and think about that think
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is and and and think about that think
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is and and and think about that think taking that further right software or
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taking that further right software or
17:39
taking that further right software or you are using you're trying to figure
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you are using you're trying to figure
17:42
you are using you're trying to figure out their products or whatnot um
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out their products or whatnot um
17:45
out their products or whatnot um companies need to realize that users
17:49
companies need to realize that users
17:49
companies need to realize that users customers that they make their money
17:51
customers that they make their money
17:51
customers that they make their money from probably will think like that like
17:54
from probably will think like that like
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from probably will think like that like you did just now damir like they will
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you did just now damir like they will
17:57
you did just now damir like they will they will have chat GTP or something off
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they will have chat GTP or something off
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they will have chat GTP or something off to the side and if they don't if they
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to the side and if they don't if they
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to the side and if they don't if they can't figure something out with the
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can't figure something out with the
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can't figure something out with the company stuff they will go and
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company stuff they will go and
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company stuff they will go and ask the world um yes that that's I
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ask the world um yes that that's I
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ask the world um yes that that's I cannot it is really one of the most
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cannot it is really one of the most
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cannot it is really one of the most amazing thing happened in industry in my
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amazing thing happened in industry in my
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amazing thing happened in industry in my life I would say problem in everybody
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life I would say problem in everybody
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life I would say problem in everybody Liv was to they living it is a is still
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Liv was to they living it is a is still
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Liv was to they living it is a is still mine Asher is still mine no question but
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mine Asher is still mine no question but
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mine Asher is still mine no question but Azure is the thing which is you you
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Azure is the thing which is you you
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Azure is the thing which is you you start the day with ezure you end the day
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start the day with ezure you end the day
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start the day with ezure you end the day with desure is nothing special or now to
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with desure is nothing special or now to
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with desure is nothing special or now to it's like for that's I don't know how
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it's like for that's I don't know how
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it's like for that's I don't know how long we have that 13 years yeah uh it's
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long we have that 13 years yeah uh it's
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long we have that 13 years yeah uh it's thing yeah but this with open a it's
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thing yeah but this with open a it's
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thing yeah but this with open a it's totally it's it's it changeed a lot it's
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totally it's it's it changeed a lot it's
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totally it's it's it changeed a lot it's like a friend you have yeah and you just
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like a friend you have yeah and you just
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like a friend you have yeah and you just ask for have hey tell me what you think
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ask for have hey tell me what you think
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ask for have hey tell me what you think about that and I'm using in a private
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about that and I'm using in a private
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about that and I'm using in a private life not only for so I use it for
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life not only for so I use it for
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life not only for so I use it for software development and and really as a
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software development and and really as a
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software development and and really as a software developer let's say uh I'm not
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software developer let's say uh I'm not
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software developer let's say uh I'm not scared at all that I will lose my
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scared at all that I will lose my
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scared at all that I will lose my job definitely not it changed in the
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job definitely not it changed in the
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job definitely not it changed in the better way how I do things I ask all hey
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better way how I do things I ask all hey
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better way how I do things I ask all hey tell me how to do this how to do this
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tell me how to do this how to do this
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tell me how to do this how to do this and I get some recommendation and maybe
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and I get some recommendation and maybe
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and I get some recommendation and maybe copy paste maybe not but if you really
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copy paste maybe not but if you really
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copy paste maybe not but if you really want to solve a complex problem ask now
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want to solve a complex problem ask now
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want to solve a complex problem ask now anybody who is listening to the show
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anybody who is listening to the show
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anybody who is listening to the show should go there and try to ask now
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should go there and try to ask now
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should go there and try to ask now please provide me cop code which
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please provide me cop code which
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please provide me cop code which deploy some piece of code in do
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deploy some piece of code in do
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deploy some piece of code in do container through Azure durable
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container through Azure durable
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container through Azure durable functions into the ACI you will never
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functions into the ACI you will never
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functions into the ACI you will never get that no and I'm not going to say why
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get that no and I'm not going to say why
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get that no and I'm not going to say why is that important to have such kind of
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is that important to have such kind of
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is that important to have such kind of fla yeah but that's not the point now I
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fla yeah but that's not the point now I
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fla yeah but that's not the point now I just telling you it's not possible right
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just telling you it's not possible right
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just telling you it's not possible right now maybe in five years will be but we
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now maybe in five years will be but we
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now maybe in five years will be but we will have a new thing which will not be
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will have a new thing which will not be
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will have a new thing which will not be possible where you will need a developer
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possible where you will need a developer
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possible where you will need a developer Aral who to solve the problem yeah yeah
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Aral who to solve the problem yeah yeah
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Aral who to solve the problem yeah yeah yeah I know more it's it's not it's not
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yeah I know more it's it's not it's not
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yeah I know more it's it's not it's not easy to grasp what AI will become we're
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easy to grasp what AI will become we're
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easy to grasp what AI will become we're all guessing uh what a how AI will
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all guessing uh what a how AI will
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all guessing uh what a how AI will impact the things that we do but if
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impact the things that we do but if
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impact the things that we do but if you're a company right now thinking
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you're a company right now thinking
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you're a company right now thinking about AI not knowing what to do you
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about AI not knowing what to do you
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about AI not knowing what to do you should reach out to someone like like
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should reach out to someone like like
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should reach out to someone like like you for example damir right and get
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you for example damir right and get
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you for example damir right and get advice like what should I like how do I
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advice like what should I like how do I
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advice like what should I like how do I how do how do I relate to AI with my
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how do how do I relate to AI with my
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how do how do I relate to AI with my business my company what do I do
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business my company what do I do
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business my company what do I do definitely that that's definitely talk
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definitely that that's definitely talk
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definitely that that's definitely talk to someone who knows about Cloud someone
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to someone who knows about Cloud someone
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to someone who knows about Cloud someone who knows about um Ai and that space and
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who knows about um Ai and that space and
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who knows about um Ai and that space and just sit down with them for for an hour
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just sit down with them for for an hour
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just sit down with them for for an hour or or for for a half a day and and try
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or or for for a half a day and and try
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or or for for a half a day and and try to figure out how does AI relate to
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to figure out how does AI relate to
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to figure out how does AI relate to anything we do what could we do with it
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anything we do what could we do with it
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anything we do what could we do with it yes that's definitely I that's
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yes that's definitely I that's
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yes that's definitely I that's definitely what you say try to reach the
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definitely what you say try to reach the
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definitely what you say try to reach the people not necessarily me or you
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people not necessarily me or you
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people not necessarily me or you yeah a bunch of people who who are
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yeah a bunch of people who who are
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yeah a bunch of people who who are specialized on that that's everything
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specialized on that that's everything
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specialized on that that's everything fine but I can give a recommendation to
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fine but I can give a recommendation to
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fine but I can give a recommendation to everybody the the question is hey let's
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everybody the the question is hey let's
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everybody the the question is hey let's do AI it's it's you are not going to do
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do AI it's it's you are not going to do
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do AI it's it's you are not going to do AI it's when you say let's go do Cloud
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AI it's when you say let's go do Cloud
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AI it's when you say let's go do Cloud let's go do PC let's go do laptop it's
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let's go do PC let's go do laptop it's
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let's go do PC let's go do laptop it's just not the way how to do that you have
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just not the way how to do that you have
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just not the way how to do that you have to think about specific problem which
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to think about specific problem which
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to think about specific problem which you want to solve and if the AI might be
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you want to solve and if the AI might be
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you want to solve and if the AI might be the way to do that let's do it that's
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the way to do that let's do it that's
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the way to do that let's do it that's EAS way just don't do AI because
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EAS way just don't do AI because
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EAS way just don't do AI because everybody is doing it think about it
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everybody is doing it think about it
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everybody is doing it think about it because everybody is doing it general
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because everybody is doing it general
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because everybody is doing it general knowledge that's that would be my
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knowledge that's that would be my
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knowledge that's that would be my recommendation yeah yeah that's that's a
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recommendation yeah yeah that's that's a
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recommendation yeah yeah that's that's a brilliant recommendation and I I
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brilliant recommendation and I I
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brilliant recommendation and I I couldn't agree more and I think that's
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couldn't agree more and I think that's
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couldn't agree more and I think that's going to have to be the end of the show
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going to have to be the end of the show
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going to have to be the end of the show today uh because we're our time together
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today uh because we're our time together
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today uh because we're our time together is up we could talk about this all day
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is up we could talk about this all day
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is up we could talk about this all day probably no problem but you have to also
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probably no problem but you have to also
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probably no problem but you have to also go
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go
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go home I'm already my city yeah yeah right
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home I'm already my city yeah yeah right
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home I'm already my city yeah yeah right thank you thank you so much damir for
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thank you thank you so much damir for
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thank you thank you so much damir for being on the show today being on the
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being on the show today being on the
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being on the show today being on the cloud show with me I appreciate it very
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cloud show with me I appreciate it very
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cloud show with me I appreciate it very much thank you for having me Magnus and
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much thank you for having me Magnus and
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much thank you for having me Magnus and hope to see you soon thanks nice day
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hope to see you soon thanks nice day
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hope to see you soon thanks nice day byebye
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byebye
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