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Hey ladies and gentlemen this is Carmine Sabia for Explain America and a CNN interview went
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off the rails yesterday when the subject of abortion came up and one Ohio former congressman
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took it to CNN anchor Caitlin Collins. Before we get started please make sure you like, comment, share and subscribe
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So hours before an amendment to the Ohio Constitution passed which will allow abortion in some cases
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up until the moment of birth, how psychotic is that? Former Ohio Governor, the former Ohio Governor Mike DeWine was on with Caitlin Collins and
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they were talking about the measure and every time Mr. DeWine brought up a point that Caitlin
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Collins couldn't combat, she started interrupting him, started cutting him off to the point
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where he had actually shouted her let me finish. It was a really contentious interview
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Let's take a look. In an abortion case and so the exception really takes over everything and so it would allow
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an abortion right up until the time of birth and look we have experience with this in Ohio
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We have a guy by the name of Martin Haskell who developed this partial birth abortion
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He's the one who developed it. Basically deliver the baby, kill the baby, deliver it partially, kill the baby and then
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deliver the rest of the baby. We outlawed that in Ohio. We outlawed it nationally for any case involving interstate commerce but that would certainly
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be overturned or very likely be overturned if this constitutional amendment was passed
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You're talking about the health of the mother being broadly determined. I mean that's a determination that's made by a doctor who they have a duty to follow
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Medical science, do they not? It's made by the person at the Planned Parenthood Clinic who performs abortion after abortion
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every single day. Which is a doctor. That person is making that decision. Just let me finish
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That person is making that decision and they're the person who then there's no under this
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there's absolutely no appeal. You look at the language in this constitutional amendment
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The state may not interfere directly, indirectly and it goes on and on and then it has this
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huge exception for the health of the mother. And look at the Supreme Court decision that was handed down where they defined health
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of the mother. They defined it as it could be a question of poverty
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It could be a question of I have too many children. It could be any number of different things
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That's what the United States Supreme Court said. And so in all likelihood that's what we will end up with in Ohio
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But Governor this amendment is short. It's only about 200 words. It doesn't say anything about finances and it also doesn't say anything about parental consent
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Something that you just said. I just explained to you. That the Republican Attorney General in New York State said nothing about parental consent
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is mentioned in this amendment. I mean you can read it. It's quite quite short
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Well there's no doubt there's nothing mentioned about parental consent. I just explained it
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If you go back if you look at the language in the amendment it talks about an individual
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These are very smart ACLU lawyers who wrote this. They knew exactly what they were doing
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If they wanted to say only an adult and not a child they would have used the word woman
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They didn't. They used the word an individual. So it's clear what they were trying to do
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This is a right for an individual and it's clear it's very clear that a court very well
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could or could come to the conclusion that a child has that individual right and that
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This is a constitutional amendment. This is not just a law. This is a constitutional amendment
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That constitutional amendment will trump any law that we have on the books if they're in
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direct conflict with each other. But Governor I got to push back on what you said about the finances being considered when
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a doctor is considering the health of a mother who is considering having an abortion here
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Can you name one instance where that has ever happened? Look all I know is what the United States Supreme Court said and if you tell me you've
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read the same decision and you know it's an extremely broad look even people who are
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pro-choice on this issue. But has this ever happened where someone got an abortion because they were citing their
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own finances Governor? You will not let me finish. Look the Supreme Court of the United States has defined this extremely broadly and so
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it's very very clear that even people who are pro-choice who are in favor of issue one
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many of them will admit yes this will allow an abortion at any time
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Governor my last question if this amendment does what you say it does if it goes too far
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and you don't believe that voters should vote for it why not just have the language of the
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amendment actually on the ballot because it's not actually on there instead it's a summary
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from your Republican Secretary of State when the amendment itself is quite brief and straightforward
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about what it does do. Look everybody's had an opportunity to look at this the thousands of these hundreds of
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thousands of these copies have been made of this people have had a chance to look at it's
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not a question of the language it's a question of understanding with legal experts how this
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is going to be likely interpreted by courts in the in the future
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Ohio Governor Mike DeWine we'll see what the voters. Now sadly this amendment passed and I think that's a shame on Ohio on a country and a
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people who would allow something like this to pass. I'm you know I'm torn people say you know Republicans you have to move to the middle
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on this if you want to win elections and I'm here to say I don't care about the elections
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that much I mean I care but not enough to sell my soul
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I believe what I believe abortion is murder that's my position. It hasn't changed it will never change and there's no election in the world that would
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make me change it. If you're so addicted America to abortion that you're willing to burn the country to
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cinders over it then let it burn because if that's the country we live in then what are
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we trying to save anyway. I want to know what you guys think let me know in the comments also please remember
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