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Hey, ladies and gentlemen, this is Carmine Zabia 4, Explain America, and Republicans have had it
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It really helps us out. Tom Cotton appeared on CNN last night
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And, you know, guys, I want to you understand something about bills. Because if you hear people tell you that the Republicans voted against the IVF bill and to protect it, well, it's true and it's false
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So it's true they voted against the bill. Here's the part that's false
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People want you to believe that's the only thing that was in the bill. But that's not what happens
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And Republicans and Democrats do this. I'm not just blaming one side. They'll put up something really popular
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Like the, we love puppies bill. We want to protect puppies, okay? And then in that is a whole bunch of garbage that they know the other side doesn't want
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that they know the other side will vote against. So the other side votes against it, and they say
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ah, those guys are against puppies. That's what happened with the IVF bill
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And when Caitlin Collins, the CNN, tried to nail Republicans on this
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she got set straight by Senator Tom Cotton. It wasn't the IVF part
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IVF, by the way, is protected in all 50 states. This is a red herring
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It is a nonsense argument. They've made this up out of their minds
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and want to make it an issue. Republicans are not against IVF. Not one Republican I've heard from
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is against IVF. Not one, not Trump, not any of them. We're pro-life
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IVF helps create life. We are not against it. But they do this and they put a bunch of stuff
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in the bill. They knew Republicans would vote against and say, oh, look, they're against
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IVF, I want you to hear Senator Cotton take this woman to school and leave nothing to the imagination with this brutal smackdown
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And then I want you to let me know what you think in the comments. Senate Republicans today blocked a bill that would guarantee access to the very thing that a lot of them say they support
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It's also the very thing that we have heard from Donald Trump say that he supports. Democrats tried and failed again to pass that measure, which would guarantee access to IVF
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nationwide And tonight they are using this vote to hammer Republicans who said no My source tonight on this is Republican Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas Senator great to have you here because you and your fellow Senate Republicans mostly voted against this arguing that it a show vote
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But Donald Trump, as you know, recently pledged to either have insurance companies or the government pay for fertility treatments
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So would you have voted for a bill like this if he was in office
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Well, Caitlin, first off, after correct, almost everything you said in the lead in there, almost none of which was accurate about this bill
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First off, there's no risk to IVF in this country. All 49 Republican senators, along with President Trump, support IVF
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No state restricts or bans IVF. Second, this bill was about a lot more than just IVF
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You said that it had to guarantee access. Access is guaranteed in all 50 states
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states right now. You also said that it was about IVF. It's about a lot more than IVF. This bill would
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mandate coverage for experimental, controversial procedures like cloning or gene editing or
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providing fertility treatments to men who think they're women, whatever that means. It would also
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imperil a religious liberty. I support IVF as President Trump does. We also think that we should
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allow, say, Christian hospitals to operate their affairs as they see fit, according to the dictates
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their conscience. Now, it's not surprising that Democrats don't agree with that. They've long persecuted
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Christians, like the little sisters of the poor. They wanted to provide contraception coverage
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for nuns. Or they've harassed Catholics for going to traditional masses. That's what this bill is about
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Caitlin. No, Caitlin, you're not going to stop me there because you're misrepresenting what the bill is
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about. The bill is about infringing upon religious liberty. Let's have a conversation about
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this bill and this legislation itself. You're saying that what I said was inaccurate, that this would
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guarantee access to IVF, which is what it would do. You're saying that no state
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restricts it, but no state guarantees it. The issue, which I know
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well, because this happened in my home state of Alabama, is a court ruling
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that embryos count as children, and then these IVF clinics, a lot of them
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closed in Alabama as a result of this because they're worried about lawsuits
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or about the state attorney general coming after them. That is why this is an issue
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And your candidate, Donald Trump, has said that he would like to see IVF
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and people have access to this. So do you support guaranteeing access to IVF
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So a ruling, like that one in Alabama, would not imperil someone access to it by clinics saying well I going to close because I worried about facing a lawsuit here or criminal charges Caitlin the example of Alabama proves my point
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You had the Supreme Court of Alabama ruling on an old law. They felt their hands were constrained by a law
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And what happened? The political branches of the Alabama government, who are elected by and accountable to the people
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promptly passed a new law that guaranteed access. to IVF in Alabama the same way every other state guarantees access to IVF
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This bill in the Senate was not about guaranteeing access to IVF, which is not threatened
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in any state. It was about radical, experimental, controversial treatments, things like gene editing or cloning
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and it infringes upon religious liberties, which, again, shouldn't be surprising because
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the Democrats are the party that want to harass and persecute nuns or investigate Catholics
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for going to traditional masses. That's why we oppose that bill and will continue to oppose it
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But, Senator, this bill would have guaranteed access to IVF. And you're saying that it would have forced people to do things against their religious beliefs
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I should note, this bill doesn't require anyone to perform any operations or procedures
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It just says that people should have access to IVF. And it also talks about having insurance companies cover the cost for fertility treatments
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something that your candidate supports. So just to be clear, I'm not misrepresenting the bill
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You can say you don't like it. You can say that you think it's a show vote. You can talk about those aspects of it
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But this is something that was put up there and it would have guaranteed access to IVF
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So let me ask you while you're here, given you're a major surrogate for the Trump campaign
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His proposal here is that he would like to either have the government or insurance companies cover the cost for fertility treatments
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Has the campaign explained to you yet how he would pay for that plan? We haven't gotten that far, Caitlin
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I think I and most other legislators would have questions about the cost of taxpayers or the cost and higher premiums
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And as always, ensuring that we respect the religious liberty rights of all Americans
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Again, President Trump and I support IVF, as do all elected Republicans
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But I respect any American who has a different point of view, especially if they're a health care provider or work with the Catholic charity
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And they want their religious liberty respected. That's what we would do. Democrats would not do that
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So if you're an American out there, and you someone who maybe is in Alabama and you worried about having access to IVF not because the state is saying that they going to make it illegal but because there no clinics open in the state because they worried about Supreme Court rulings that could imperil access to it And if the
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legislature had not acted, which they did under political pressure, if you're someone out there
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and you're looking at these two candidates here ahead of November, Donald Trump and Vice President
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Harris, and they see what Trump is saying he'll do, but they're wanting to know, is this real
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And if there's no plan to pay for it, how do they know that it's a real proposal
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Well, Caitlin, again, IVF is not at risk in any state. And the Alabama example proves the point
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The legislature acted promptly to change what was an old law to ensure access to, because of Supreme Court decision
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That happens all the time. That imperiled access to IVF. Courts make decisions. Caitlin, courts make decisions interpreting laws, often old laws
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but haven't been updated to reflect change circumstances all the time, and legislatures come back, and they change those laws
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That's what happened here. Okay, but my question was about the plan to pay for the proposal
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Again, well, we can review those details at future time. There's reasonable questions about the cost of it
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either the taxpayer and premiums, and how we would protect the religious liberty of all of our citizens
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But Donald Trump, just like all Senate Republicans, and for the most part, most Republicans I know, all support IVF
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What we don't support are the kind of radical proposals that Kamala Harris has addressed
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like on the abortion question. She wants a nationwide abortion law that would mandate all states allow partial birth abortion
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up to the moment of birth and deny life-saving care for any child who is born during a botched
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abortion. That's what's truly radical. And of course, as you know, she wants Roe v. Wade codified into law
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which would go up to viability about 24 weeks. Senator Tom Cotton, thanks for your time. What I know is that she won't answer a single
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she won't answer a question about what kind of, she won't answer a question about what month it is appropriate
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to reasonably protect the rights of unborn children. Is it the eighth month
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Is it the ninth month? She won't answer any of those questions, Caitlin, because she knows that her radical views on these questions
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are out of step with the American people. And Senator Tom Cotton, Donald Trump did not say on that debate stage as well
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when she didn't answer that question, if he would veto a national abortion ban. We're out of time
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Unfortunately, Senator Tom Cotton, thank you very much. Thank you
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