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Hey ladies and gentlemen, this is Carmine Sabia for Explain America and the judge in New York's
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case against Donald Trump, you know the one that awarded almost 400 million dollars to no particular
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victim, he just got more bad news. Before we get started, please make sure you like, comment
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share and subscribe. Those little things really help us out and they help our channel continue to
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grow. Since the verdict, several legal experts have weighed in and they believe that former
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President Donald Trump is going to be victorious on his appeal of this ridiculous verdict
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Now, there was really no victim named and Letitia James says the money is going to go to the people
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of New York. The people of New York weren't victimized, the banks got their money back
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with interest, they were happy, they still want Donald Trump as a customer. Trump is actually in
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a position where they say nobody's above the law, Trump's actually below the law. They're actually
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punishing him for things that were not criminal. They're actually just inventing things using
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archaic, inane laws to punish this man. It's ridiculous and it should stop. That being said
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one of the people who's saying that this judge has a real problem is a former judge herself
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Jeanine Pirro. Very, very steeped in legal knowledge. I want you to listen to what she
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has to say and then give me your opinion in the comments. Also, please remember to like
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comment, share and subscribe. Those little things really help us out and they help our channel
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continue to grow. I'm Carmine Sabia for Explain America. We love you guys. God bless you
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Take care, everybody. And joining us now is Saul Weisenberg, former Deputy Independent Counsel
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and Fox News contributor and Tim Parlatore, former Trump attorney. Saul, is this decision supported by the evidence
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Well, I certainly don't see how the part of the decision that imposes a $355 million judgment
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is supported by the evidence because as the judge points out in the very first paragraph
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of his opinion, and as you pointed out, there's no loss from the bank. The loans were repaid
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Now, certainly you can legally engage in fraud of all kinds, even if the bank is not
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even if the victim doesn't lose money, but to impose a penalty of $355 million
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and to bar him for three years and his sons for two years seems to me to be completely
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out of proportion to the actual loss here, which was zilch. And, you know, Tim, the the New York decision is basically saying that he misrepresented as well
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since when is that a crime? Although the Trumps will not they will not concede to that at all
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And they were dealing with the most sophisticated, intelligent banks that knew exactly what they
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were doing. They've got every penny. They made hundreds of millions of dollars
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Exactly. And you're talking about a bank here that did their own due diligence
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and testified that they knew what the true numbers were based on their valuation
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But also, we're not just talking about, you know, they say that there's a million dollars in the
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bank when there's really five dollars in the bank. It's valuations that really come into
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you know, what is the market value? What is people's opinions of the value? It's not something
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that is so set in stone. And so, you know, to to then bring that to an intent to defraud
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where they would have qualified for these loans anyway, and clearly they qualified for them
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because they paid them all back. They pay them all back. But the interesting thing
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Saul, is it meant the decision mentions Ivanka Trump and reading this Ivanka Trump was a thoughtful
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articulate and poised witness. But the court found her inconsistent recall, depending on
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whether she was questioned by the office of the attorney general or the defense suspect
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So also, how could she be thoughtful and also suspect? I can't get inside the judge's mind, but I have a I have a question for for everybody
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which is where were all of these people during the 35 years before Donald Trump became a
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announced candidate for president? Why weren't these people investigating this alleged fraud
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People, if there's fraud going on, the U.S. attorney's office in the Southern District
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of New York, the district attorney's office in Manhattan, it doesn't seem like they were doing
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their job at all. It appears that there was no effort whatsoever to even look at former President
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Trump until he became a controversial political figure. And as you pointed out, the the attorney
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general is really shocking and unethical. She for her to be involved in this case when she ran for
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office on a platform of getting Trump, which, by the way, Alvin Bragg did and which, by the way
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Fannie Willis did as well. And, you know, Saul, you and I, I mean, you know, when I was elected
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D.A. or a judge, had I even said that line once, they would have removed me. But but but, Tim
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what I'd like to ask you is I want you to take a listen to this sound where the judge had signaled
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he was going to impose corporate death. Do we have that? All right, well, apparently the judge
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has signaled he was going to impose a corporate death penalty. He was going to revoke the business
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certificates. He didn't do that. And the person was depressed. It's interesting to to read the decision where he is reinstating revoking that portion of the order
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based on the fact that he's imposing all of these other so-called controls and giving
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giving other people essentially government appointed jobs to oversee the Trump organization. And so, you know, by doing that and by, you know, really giving significant amount
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of money to a few people, that is something that saves the business licenses. And Saul
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what do you think the chances are on appeal with this case? I don't know enough about New York civil law, but it strikes me to be constitutionally extremely
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dubious to basically impose three hundred and fifty five million dollar judgment in a case where
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there is no loss. That is just mind boggling to me. I've never seen a case where that that happened
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And, you know, Saul and Tim, none of us have because it never has happened
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Anyway, thanks so much for being with us this evening
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