Anthony Scaramucci & The Wizard of Soho: Inside the new age of onchhain leverage

Skybridge Capital founder Anthony Scaramucci, and The Wizard of Soho, Joy Pathak joined CoinDesk Live from Consensus Hong Kong. Pathak, a former bond trader who once managed a $40 billion portfolio at CalPERS, explains why leverage didn't die after the recent market crash—it simply moved into a new, more transparent era. He breaks down how the rise of decentralized exchanges like Hyperliquid and Aevo has handed institutional-grade tools to retail traders, creating an environment where every multi-billion dollar position is visible to the entire world in real-time. Scaramucci argues that while some Wall Street "fuddy-duddies" fear volatility, crypto’s 24/7 liquidity actually makes it a safer market than traditional finance. By comparing the ability to hedge an exogenous risk on a Sunday night to the "trapped" nature of closed bond markets, Scaramucci and Pathak illustrate why the "horseless carriage" of blockchain is destined to outrun legacy systems.