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how can Mary hear millions of prayers at
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how can Mary hear millions of prayers at
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how can Mary hear millions of prayers at once a Catholic
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once a Catholic perspective one of the most common
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perspective one of the most common
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perspective one of the most common objections raised by non-catholics is
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objections raised by non-catholics is
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objections raised by non-catholics is the idea that Mary and the Saints can
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the idea that Mary and the Saints can
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the idea that Mary and the Saints can hear the prayers of millions of people
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hear the prayers of millions of people
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hear the prayers of millions of people all at once many argue that such an
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all at once many argue that such an
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all at once many argue that such an ability would require Godlike Powers
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ability would require Godlike Powers
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ability would require Godlike Powers something only God
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something only God possesses however Catholic teaching
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possesses however Catholic teaching
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possesses however Catholic teaching provides a response rooted in both
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provides a response rooted in both
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provides a response rooted in both scripture and theology that addresses
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scripture and theology that addresses
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scripture and theology that addresses this concern directly the objection is
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this concern directly the objection is
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this concern directly the objection is Mary being made into a God in his 1999
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Mary being made into a God in his 1999
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Mary being made into a God in his 1999 book Evangelical answers a critique of
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book Evangelical answers a critique of
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book Evangelical answers a critique of current Roman Catholic apologists Eric
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current Roman Catholic apologists Eric
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current Roman Catholic apologists Eric senson presents an argument against the
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senson presents an argument against the
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senson presents an argument against the Catholic belief in intercessory prayer
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Catholic belief in intercessory prayer
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Catholic belief in intercessory prayer to Mary he imagines a scenario where
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to Mary he imagines a scenario where
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to Mary he imagines a scenario where thousands of people across the world are
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thousands of people across the world are
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thousands of people across the world are praying to Mary at the same moment his
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praying to Mary at the same moment his
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praying to Mary at the same moment his objection is simple if Mary can hear all
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objection is simple if Mary can hear all
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objection is simple if Mary can hear all these prayers simultaneously wouldn't
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these prayers simultaneously wouldn't
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these prayers simultaneously wouldn't that make her om missioned an attribute
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that make her om missioned an attribute
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that make her om missioned an attribute that belongs to God Alone this is a
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that belongs to God Alone this is a
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that belongs to God Alone this is a significant objection and one that
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significant objection and one that
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significant objection and one that deserves a thoughtful answer according
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deserves a thoughtful answer according
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deserves a thoughtful answer according to senson for Mary to respond to all
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to senson for Mary to respond to all
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to senson for Mary to respond to all those prayers she would need to possess
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those prayers she would need to possess
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those prayers she would need to possess the same all- knowing all hearing
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the same all- knowing all hearing
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the same all- knowing all hearing abilities as God but is this truly the
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abilities as God but is this truly the
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abilities as God but is this truly the case the Catholic response Revelation
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case the Catholic response Revelation
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case the Catholic response Revelation 5:8 and the role of the Saints the first
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5:8 and the role of the Saints the first
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5:8 and the role of the Saints the first Catholic response comes from scripture
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Catholic response comes from scripture
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Catholic response comes from scripture specifically Revelation
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specifically Revelation
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specifically Revelation 5:8 In this passage we see the 24 Elders
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5:8 In this passage we see the 24 Elders
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5:8 In this passage we see the 24 Elders in heaven human beings holding golden
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in heaven human beings holding golden
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in heaven human beings holding golden bowls full of incense which are the
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bowls full of incense which are the
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bowls full of incense which are the prayers of the Saints these Elders are
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prayers of the Saints these Elders are
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prayers of the Saints these Elders are shown as responding to prayers from
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shown as responding to prayers from
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shown as responding to prayers from multiple people at once the Bible is
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multiple people at once the Bible is
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multiple people at once the Bible is clear Saints in heaven can hear and
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clear Saints in heaven can hear and
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clear Saints in heaven can hear and respond to the prayers of those on Earth
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respond to the prayers of those on Earth
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respond to the prayers of those on Earth if we take this passage at face value it
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if we take this passage at face value it
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if we take this passage at face value it becomes clear that the Saints in heaven
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becomes clear that the Saints in heaven
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becomes clear that the Saints in heaven have been given the ability to hear
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have been given the ability to hear
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have been given the ability to hear multiple prayers
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multiple prayers simultaneously does this mean they
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simultaneously does this mean they
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simultaneously does this mean they possess Godlike Powers not at all rather
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possess Godlike Powers not at all rather
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possess Godlike Powers not at all rather this ability is granted by God who as
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this ability is granted by God who as
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this ability is granted by God who as scripture says can make all things
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scripture says can make all things
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scripture says can make all things possible Luke
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possible Luke 1:37 the Saints ability to hear prayers
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1:37 the Saints ability to hear prayers
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1:37 the Saints ability to hear prayers is a gift from God not an indication
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is a gift from God not an indication
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is a gift from God not an indication that they are Divine themselves the
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that they are Divine themselves the
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that they are Divine themselves the ministry of angels more biblical support
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ministry of angels more biblical support
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ministry of angels more biblical support Revelation 8: 3-4 offers further Insight
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Revelation 8: 3-4 offers further Insight
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Revelation 8: 3-4 offers further Insight here an angel is described as standing
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here an angel is described as standing
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here an angel is described as standing at the altar with a golden sensor
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at the altar with a golden sensor
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at the altar with a golden sensor holding much incense which represents
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holding much incense which represents
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holding much incense which represents the prayers of of the Saints the angel
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the prayers of of the Saints the angel
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the prayers of of the Saints the angel offers these prayers before God and they
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offers these prayers before God and they
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offers these prayers before God and they result in powerful effects on Earth
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result in powerful effects on Earth
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result in powerful effects on Earth symbolized by thunder lightning and an
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symbolized by thunder lightning and an
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symbolized by thunder lightning and an earthquake not only are Saints and
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earthquake not only are Saints and
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earthquake not only are Saints and Angels depicted as hearing and
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Angels depicted as hearing and
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Angels depicted as hearing and delivering prayers to God but their
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delivering prayers to God but their
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delivering prayers to God but their actions directly impact the world in
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actions directly impact the world in
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actions directly impact the world in other words they are not passive
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other words they are not passive
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other words they are not passive Messengers but active participants in
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Messengers but active participants in
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Messengers but active participants in the process of intercession some might
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the process of intercession some might
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the process of intercession some might argue that the Saints and angels are
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argue that the Saints and angels are
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argue that the Saints and angels are simply carrying prayers without
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simply carrying prayers without
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simply carrying prayers without comprehending them however however this
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comprehending them however however this
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comprehending them however however this would contradict the metaphorical
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would contradict the metaphorical
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would contradict the metaphorical language of incense representing prayers
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language of incense representing prayers
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language of incense representing prayers for them to take these prayers to God
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for them to take these prayers to God
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for them to take these prayers to God they must understand and comprehend them
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they must understand and comprehend them
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they must understand and comprehend them intellectually following Jesus example a
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intellectually following Jesus example a
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intellectually following Jesus example a key aspect of Catholic theology is that
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key aspect of Catholic theology is that
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key aspect of Catholic theology is that the Saints in heaven follow jesus'
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the Saints in heaven follow jesus'
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the Saints in heaven follow jesus' example as Hebrews 7:25 says Jesus lives
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example as Hebrews 7:25 says Jesus lives
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example as Hebrews 7:25 says Jesus lives in heaven to intercede for us if we as
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in heaven to intercede for us if we as
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in heaven to intercede for us if we as Christians are called to follow Christ
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Christians are called to follow Christ
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Christians are called to follow Christ and if the Saints in heaven are made
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and if the Saints in heaven are made
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and if the Saints in heaven are made perfect in Christ then it stands to
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perfect in Christ then it stands to
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perfect in Christ then it stands to reason that they too would want to join
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reason that they too would want to join
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reason that they too would want to join in this
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in this intercession 1 John 3: 1-2 tells us that
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intercession 1 John 3: 1-2 tells us that
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intercession 1 John 3: 1-2 tells us that when we enter Heaven we will be like him
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when we enter Heaven we will be like him
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when we enter Heaven we will be like him meaning we will share in Christ's nature
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meaning we will share in Christ's nature
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meaning we will share in Christ's nature if Jesus is interceding for those on
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if Jesus is interceding for those on
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if Jesus is interceding for those on Earth why would the Saints do any less
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Earth why would the Saints do any less
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Earth why would the Saints do any less they see him as he is and naturally they
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they see him as he is and naturally they
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they see him as he is and naturally they want to participate in the work of
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want to participate in the work of
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want to participate in the work of prayer and intercession following their
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prayer and intercession following their
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prayer and intercession following their Lord's example does hearing millions of
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Lord's example does hearing millions of
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Lord's example does hearing millions of prayers require infinite power
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prayers require infinite power
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prayers require infinite power svenson's main objection revolves around
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svenson's main objection revolves around
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svenson's main objection revolves around the idea that hearing millions of
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the idea that hearing millions of
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the idea that hearing millions of prayers at once would require infinite
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prayers at once would require infinite
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prayers at once would require infinite power something only God possesses but
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power something only God possesses but
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power something only God possesses but this is where a critical distinction
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this is where a critical distinction
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this is where a critical distinction must be made hearing a finite number of
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must be made hearing a finite number of
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must be made hearing a finite number of prayers even if it's in the millions or
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prayers even if it's in the millions or
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prayers even if it's in the millions or billions does not require infinite power
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billions does not require infinite power
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billions does not require infinite power the number of prayers heard is finite
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the number of prayers heard is finite
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the number of prayers heard is finite even if very large and therefore does
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even if very large and therefore does
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even if very large and therefore does not demand omniscience or
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not demand omniscience or
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not demand omniscience or omnipotence consider the vastness of the
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omnipotence consider the vastness of the
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omnipotence consider the vastness of the universe
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universe we are a tiny planet in one solar system
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we are a tiny planet in one solar system
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we are a tiny planet in one solar system among billions of others the power
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among billions of others the power
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among billions of others the power required for a saint like Mary to hear
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required for a saint like Mary to hear
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required for a saint like Mary to hear the prayers of people on earth is
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the prayers of people on earth is
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the prayers of people on earth is minuscule compared to the overall size
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minuscule compared to the overall size
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minuscule compared to the overall size and complexity of creation we are not
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and complexity of creation we are not
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and complexity of creation we are not dealing with infinite quantities here
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dealing with infinite quantities here
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dealing with infinite quantities here Eric svenson's critique in response to
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Eric svenson's critique in response to
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Eric svenson's critique in response to this argument Svenson offers an
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this argument Svenson offers an
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this argument Svenson offers an interesting critique he points out that
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interesting critique he points out that
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interesting critique he points out that if hearing prayers does not require
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if hearing prayers does not require
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if hearing prayers does not require omniscience one might argue that God
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omniscience one might argue that God
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omniscience one might argue that God himself does do not need omn misss since
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himself does do not need omn misss since
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himself does do not need omn misss since even a large number of knowable things
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even a large number of knowable things
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even a large number of knowable things is still finite svenson's concern is
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is still finite svenson's concern is
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is still finite svenson's concern is that this line of reasoning could reduce
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that this line of reasoning could reduce
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that this line of reasoning could reduce God's attributes to something less than
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God's attributes to something less than
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God's attributes to something less than infinite however senson misunderstands
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infinite however senson misunderstands
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infinite however senson misunderstands the Catholic position the Catholic
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the Catholic position the Catholic
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the Catholic position the Catholic church does not claim that Mary or the
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church does not claim that Mary or the
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church does not claim that Mary or the Saints can hear prayers by their own
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Saints can hear prayers by their own
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Saints can hear prayers by their own natural power rather this ability comes
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natural power rather this ability comes
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natural power rather this ability comes from a created light of Glory as St
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from a created light of Glory as St
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from a created light of Glory as St Thomas aquinus puts it which God grants
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Thomas aquinus puts it which God grants
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Thomas aquinus puts it which God grants to the Saints and Angels it is through
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to the Saints and Angels it is through
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to the Saints and Angels it is through this grace that they are able to hear
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this grace that they are able to hear
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this grace that they are able to hear prayers not because they possess divine
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prayers not because they possess divine
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prayers not because they possess divine nature the created light of Glory a gift
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nature the created light of Glory a gift
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nature the created light of Glory a gift from God according to aquinus the
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from God according to aquinus the
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from God according to aquinus the ability to transcend natural limitations
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ability to transcend natural limitations
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ability to transcend natural limitations comes from a created Grace or light of
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comes from a created Grace or light of
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comes from a created Grace or light of Glory given by God to the Saints and
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Glory given by God to the Saints and
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Glory given by God to the Saints and Angels it would indeed require infinite
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Angels it would indeed require infinite
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Angels it would indeed require infinite power to create this light but it does
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power to create this light but it does
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power to create this light but it does not require infinite power to receive it
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not require infinite power to receive it
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not require infinite power to receive it as long as as what is received is not
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as long as as what is received is not
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as long as as what is received is not infinite by Nature it is entirely
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infinite by Nature it is entirely
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infinite by Nature it is entirely possible for Saints and angels to
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possible for Saints and angels to
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possible for Saints and angels to comprehend and respond to prayers
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comprehend and respond to prayers
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comprehend and respond to prayers without becoming Gods themselves God
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without becoming Gods themselves God
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without becoming Gods themselves God remains the one and only infinite being
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remains the one and only infinite being
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remains the one and only infinite being the Saints and Angels participate in his
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the Saints and Angels participate in his
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the Saints and Angels participate in his Divine Life through Grace but they are
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Divine Life through Grace but they are
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Divine Life through Grace but they are not Divine by Nature this Grace empowers
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not Divine by Nature this Grace empowers
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not Divine by Nature this Grace empowers them to hear and respond to prayers and
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them to hear and respond to prayers and
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them to hear and respond to prayers and there is no need for omissions or
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there is no need for omissions or
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there is no need for omissions or omnipotence for this to occur conclusion
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omnipotence for this to occur conclusion
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omnipotence for this to occur conclusion the reasonableness of intercession
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the reasonableness of intercession
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the reasonableness of intercession ultimately the Catholic position on Mary
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ultimately the Catholic position on Mary
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ultimately the Catholic position on Mary and the Saints hearing multiple prayers
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and the Saints hearing multiple prayers
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and the Saints hearing multiple prayers at once is both reasonable and Biblical
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at once is both reasonable and Biblical
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at once is both reasonable and Biblical scripture shows that Saints and angels
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scripture shows that Saints and angels
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scripture shows that Saints and angels can hear the prayers of the faithful and
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can hear the prayers of the faithful and
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can hear the prayers of the faithful and theology provides a clear explanation
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theology provides a clear explanation
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theology provides a clear explanation God grants them this ability through his
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God grants them this ability through his
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God grants them this ability through his grace it does not require divine power
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grace it does not require divine power
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grace it does not require divine power to hear many prayers at once it only
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to hear many prayers at once it only
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to hear many prayers at once it only requires God's Gift which he freely
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requires God's Gift which he freely
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requires God's Gift which he freely gives to those who serve him in Heaven
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gives to those who serve him in Heaven
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gives to those who serve him in Heaven by understanding these key points we can
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by understanding these key points we can
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by understanding these key points we can see that the intercession of Mary and
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see that the intercession of Mary and
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see that the intercession of Mary and the Saints is not only possible but
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the Saints is not only possible but
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the Saints is not only possible but grounded in the teachings of the Bible
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grounded in the teachings of the Bible
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grounded in the teachings of the Bible and the traditions of the church far
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and the traditions of the church far
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and the traditions of the church far from making Mary or the Saints into Gods
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from making Mary or the Saints into Gods
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from making Mary or the Saints into Gods it simply highlights the power and
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it simply highlights the power and
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it simply highlights the power and generosity of God's grace which allows
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generosity of God's grace which allows
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generosity of God's grace which allows his creatures to share in his work