51st state? Carney: "Canada's not for sale, ever"; Trump: "Never say never"
May 9, 2025
Mark Carney: "It's not for sale, won't be for sale, ever." Trump: "Time will tell. It's only time. But I say never say never. I've had many many things that were not doable and they ended up being doable and only doable in a very friendly way."
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thank you very much everybody Uh it's a
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great honor to have Prime Minister Mark
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Carney with us As you know just a few
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days ago he won a very big election in
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Canada and uh I think I was probably the
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greatest thing that happened to him but
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I can't take full credit They were his
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party was losing by a lot and uh he
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ended up winning So I really want to
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congratulate him It was one of probably
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one of the greatest comebacks in the
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history of politics maybe even greater
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than mine you know but I want to just uh
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congratulate you That was a great
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election actually We were watching it
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with interest and I think uh candidate
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Joe's a very talented person a very good
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person because we spoke before the
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election quite a few times and it's an
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honor to have you at the White House and
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the Oval Office and you see the new and
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improved Oval Office as it uh becomes
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more and more beautiful with love You
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know we handle it with great love and 24
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karat gold that always helps too But
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it's uh it's been uh a lot of fun going
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over some of the beautiful pictures that
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were stored in the vaults that were for
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many many years in some cases over a
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hundred years They were stored in vaults
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of the uh great presidents or almost
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great presidents all all having a reason
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for being up every one of them So it's
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very interesting But I just want to
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congratulate you and uh ran a really
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great race I watched the debate I
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thought you were excellent And I think
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we have a lot of things in common We
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have some tough tough points to go over
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and that'll be fine We're going to also
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be discussing Ukraine Russia the war
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because uh Mark wants it ended as
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quickly as I do I think it has to end Uh
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we had some very good news last night
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The Houthis have announced that they are
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not or they've announced to us at least
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that they don't want to fight anymore
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They just don't want to fight And uh we
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will honor that and we will uh we will
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stop the bombings and uh they have
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capitulated but more importantly they uh
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we will take their word They say they
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will not be blowing up ships anymore and
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that's what the purpose of what we were
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doing So that's just news We just found
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out about that So uh I think that's very
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very positive They were they were
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knocking out a lot of ships going as you
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know sailing beautifully down the
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various seas It uh it wasn't just the
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canal It was a lot of other places and I
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will accept their word and we are going
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to stop the bombing of the Houthis
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uh effective immediately and Marco
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you'll let everybody know that Okay Uh
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do you have something to say about that
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by the way It's a pretty big
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announcement Yeah This was always a
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freedom of navigation issue Besides
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these are you know band of individuals
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with advanced weaponry that were
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threatening global shipping and the job
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was to get that to stop and uh if it's
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going to stop then we can stop and uh so
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it's I think it's an important
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development and we'll have maybe before
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we're going to as you know the Middle
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East Saudi Arabia we're going to uh UAE
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and Qatar and that'll be I guess Monday
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night Some of you are coming with us I
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think before then we're gonna have a
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very very big announcement to make like
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as big as it gets and I won't tell you
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on what but it's gonna and it's very
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positive I'd also I'd tell you if it was
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negative or positive I can't keep that
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out It is really really positive and
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that announcement will be made either
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Thursday or Friday or Monday before we
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leave but it'll be one of the most
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important announcements that have been
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made in many years about a certain
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subject very important subject So you'll
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all be here Uh Mark would you like to
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say a few words Um well thank you Mr
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President I'm I'm on the edge of my seat
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actually Um but uh thank you for your
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hospitality and a and above all for for
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your leadership You're a you're a
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transformational president Uh the focus
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on the economy with a relentless focus
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on the American worker Uh securing your
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borders Um providing ending the scourge
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of fentanyl and other opioids and u and
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securing the world And I've been elected
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uh with uh with my colleagues here with
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the help of my colleagues here or I'm
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going to spread spread the uh the credit
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uh to transform Canada um with a similar
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focus on the economy securing our
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borders uh again on fentanyl uh much
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greater focus on defense and security
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securing the Arctic and developing the
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Arctic Um and you know the history of
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Canada and the US is we're stronger when
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we work together and there's many
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opportunities to work together and I
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look forward to you know addressing some
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of those issues that we have but also uh
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finding those areas of mutual
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cooperation so we can go forward That's
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great Very nice Thank you very much Very
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nice statement Yeah Mr President and Mr
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Prime Minister I'd like to get your
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response to this too but Mr President
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you have said that Canada should become
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the 51st state
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No No Well I still believe that but but
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you know takes two to tango right But no
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I do I mean I believe it would be a
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massive tax cut for the Canadian
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citizens Uh you get free military you
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get tremendous uh medical cares and
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other things There would be a lot of uh
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advantages but it would be it would be a
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massive tax cut And it's also a
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beautiful you know as a real estate
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developer you know I'm a real estate
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developer at heart When you get rid of
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that artificially drawn line somebody
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drew that line many years ago with like
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a ruler just a straight line right
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across the top of the country When you
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look at that beautiful formation when
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it's together I'm a very artistic person
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But when I looked at that beautiful I
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said that's the way it was meant to be
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But you know it uh I just I do feel it's
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much better for Canada But we're not
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going to be discussing that unless
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somebody wants to discuss it I think
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that um there are tremendous benefits to
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the Canadian citizens tremendously lower
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taxes free military which honestly we
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give you essentially anyway because
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we're protecting Canada if you ever had
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a problem But uh I think it you know
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it's uh it would really be a wonderful
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marriage because it's it's two places
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that get along very well They like each
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other a lot Well if if if I may um as
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you know from real estate there are some
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places that uh are never for sale It's
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true Uh we're sitting in one right now
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You know Buckingham Palace if you
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visited as well uh and um having met
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with the owners of Canada over the
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course of the campaign uh last several
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months uh it it it's not for sale won't
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be for sale uh ever Uh but the
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opportunity is in the partnership and uh
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and what we can build together And we
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have done that in the past And part of
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that as the president just said is with
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respect to our own security Uh and my
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government is committed for a step
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change in our investment in Canadian
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security and our partnership And I'll
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say this as well uh that the president
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has uh revitalized uh international
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security revitalized NATO and us playing
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our full weight uh in NATO and that will
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be part of and they
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have they have I must say Canada is
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stepping up the military uh
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participation because uh Mark knew you
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know they were low and now they're
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stepping it up and that's a very
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important thing but never say never say
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never
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What would it take to get the terrorists
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off of Canada Well we'll be talking
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about different things You know we want
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to protect our automobile business and
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so does Mark but we want to protect we
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want to make the automobiles and we want
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to you know we have a tremendous
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abundance of energy more than any
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country We have uh just in Alaska alone
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Anoir has been reopened now and was one
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probably the largest find anywhere in
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the world They say it's larger than
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Saudi Arabia I don't know but it's a lot
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But we have uh tremendous amounts of
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energy Other countries don't We're both
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lucky in that way They have energy We
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have energy We have more than we can
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ever use and more than we could ever
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sell actually And you have the same
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thing So we're two countries that are
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very lucky If you look at China they
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don't have that You know it's a big
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disadvantage Other countries most
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countries don't have you know most
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countries don't have that So uh Canada
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and us we have a lot of uh a lot of
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advantages over other places Mr Mr
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President
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when you consider when you consider what
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Mr Carney just said that Canada is not
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for sale does this make the discussion a
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little more difficult to start on No not
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at all No not at all No time Time will
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tell It's only time But I say never say
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never I've had many many things that
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were not doable and they ended up being
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doable and only doable in a very
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friendly way But if it if it's to
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everybody's benefit you know Canada
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loves us and we love Canada Uh that's I
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think the number one thing that's
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important but we'll see I've been over
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time
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