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hello everyone and welcome to another
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hello everyone and welcome to another
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hello everyone and welcome to another episode of the cloud show we are live
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episode of the cloud show we are live
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episode of the cloud show we are live here or recording this live here at the
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here or recording this live here at the
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here or recording this live here at the espc conference in Stockholm it is an
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espc conference in Stockholm it is an
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espc conference in Stockholm it is an amazing conference it's huge there is so
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amazing conference it's huge there is so
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amazing conference it's huge there is so many sessions so many speakers and so
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many sessions so many speakers and so
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many sessions so many speakers and so many topics going on and in this
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many topics going on and in this
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many topics going on and in this fastpaced world of today in Tech and not
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fastpaced world of today in Tech and not
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fastpaced world of today in Tech and not only in Tech but certainly for people in
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only in Tech but certainly for people in
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only in Tech but certainly for people in Tech there's a lot of pressure and
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Tech there's a lot of pressure and
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Tech there's a lot of pressure and there's a lot of I should do all these
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there's a lot of I should do all these
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there's a lot of I should do all these things uh with my life or I'm not a
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things uh with my life or I'm not a
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things uh with my life or I'm not a success or something we need to
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success or something we need to
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success or something we need to understand this problem and talk about
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understand this problem and talk about
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understand this problem and talk about this and to do so I have one of the
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this and to do so I have one of the
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this and to do so I have one of the fast-paced individuals in this industry
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fast-paced individuals in this industry
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fast-paced individuals in this industry with me here today to talk about that
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with me here today to talk about that
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with me here today to talk about that and the star of the episode today is
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and the star of the episode today is
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and the star of the episode today is Agnes and uh welcome to the cloud show
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hello Agnes how you doing hi I'm doing
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hello Agnes how you doing hi I'm doing
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hello Agnes how you doing hi I'm doing relieved I am done with my sessions oh
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relieved I am done with my sessions oh
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relieved I am done with my sessions oh nice here at the espc conference all
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nice here at the espc conference all
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nice here at the espc conference all right it's a good conference isn't it it
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right it's a good conference isn't it it
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right it's a good conference isn't it it is it's very energetic very fast very
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is it's very energetic very fast very
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is it's very energetic very fast very overwhelming as well and you had two
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overwhelming as well and you had two
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overwhelming as well and you had two sessions two sessions brilliant uh what
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sessions two sessions brilliant uh what
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sessions two sessions brilliant uh what were your sessions on the first one
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were your sessions on the first one
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were your sessions on the first one yesterday was on search and content
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yesterday was on search and content
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yesterday was on search and content assessment how to understand what you
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assessment how to understand what you
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assessment how to understand what you have and what you need okay and today
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have and what you need okay and today
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have and what you need okay and today was a nonex session about work life
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was a nonex session about work life
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was a nonex session about work life balance work life balance yes on the
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balance work life balance yes on the
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balance work life balance yes on the Inspire stage brilliant so on the
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Inspire stage brilliant so on the
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Inspire stage brilliant so on the Inspire stage here at espc they have a
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Inspire stage here at espc they have a
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Inspire stage here at espc they have a stage where you can go and talk about
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stage where you can go and talk about
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stage where you can go and talk about you know adjacent things sometimes
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you know adjacent things sometimes
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you know adjacent things sometimes things that are not necessarily old
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things that are not necessarily old
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things that are not necessarily old here's how to use the Le latest version
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here's how to use the Le latest version
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here's how to use the Le latest version of so and so not only that right but
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of so and so not only that right but
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of so and so not only that right but also talk about other things that are
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also talk about other things that are
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also talk about other things that are maybe equally or maybe sometimes more
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maybe equally or maybe sometimes more
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maybe equally or maybe sometimes more important yeah and just I shared my
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important yeah and just I shared my
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important yeah and just I shared my story of life and I Shar what I have
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story of life and I Shar what I have
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story of life and I Shar what I have learned I am not there I do I cannot
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learned I am not there I do I cannot
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learned I am not there I do I cannot tell you that I have the perfect work
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tell you that I have the perfect work
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tell you that I have the perfect work life balance I went to bed at 1:30 last
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life balance I went to bed at 1:30 last
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life balance I went to bed at 1:30 last night which is definitely not what I
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night which is definitely not what I
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night which is definitely not what I would recommend okay but that's life
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would recommend okay but that's life
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would recommend okay but that's life that's life and so uh just maybe quickly
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that's life and so uh just maybe quickly
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that's life and so uh just maybe quickly for the audience tell us just briefly
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for the audience tell us just briefly
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for the audience tell us just briefly who are you and what like do you do in
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who are you and what like do you do in
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who are you and what like do you do in this industry of ours yes I have
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this industry of ours yes I have
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this industry of ours yes I have actually two rules one is that I run a
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actually two rules one is that I run a
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actually two rules one is that I run a business a small Consulting company
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business a small Consulting company
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business a small Consulting company called search explain where I am the
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called search explain where I am the
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called search explain where I am the lead uh consultant we do all everything
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lead uh consultant we do all everything
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lead uh consultant we do all everything that helps finding things information
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that helps finding things information
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that helps finding things information knowledge on Microsoft platforms y y and
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knowledge on Microsoft platforms y y and
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knowledge on Microsoft platforms y y and in my other role uh I am a personal life
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in my other role uh I am a personal life
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in my other role uh I am a personal life coach oh nice which is non Tech related
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coach oh nice which is non Tech related
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coach oh nice which is non Tech related at all which is so great because then
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at all which is so great because then
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at all which is so great because then maybe you do get a little bit of balance
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maybe you do get a little bit of balance
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maybe you do get a little bit of balance ideally yes absolutely and I learn from
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ideally yes absolutely and I learn from
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ideally yes absolutely and I learn from both which I can use in the other
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both which I can use in the other
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both which I can use in the other fantastic and so let's let's describe
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fantastic and so let's let's describe
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fantastic and so let's let's describe this uh problem that I think everybody
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this uh problem that I think everybody
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this uh problem that I think everybody kind of feels but can we like how how
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kind of feels but can we like how how
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kind of feels but can we like how how bad is it out there uh with work life
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bad is it out there uh with work life
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bad is it out there uh with work life balance are we working too much and uh
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balance are we working too much and uh
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balance are we working too much and uh what's the pressure we're under I think
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what's the pressure we're under I think
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what's the pressure we're under I think one of the most important pressure is
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one of the most important pressure is
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one of the most important pressure is that we expect ourselves to have work
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that we expect ourselves to have work
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that we expect ourselves to have work life balance and some people take it
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life balance and some people take it
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life balance and some people take it very seriously that oh if I do not go to
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very seriously that oh if I do not go to
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very seriously that oh if I do not go to bed at 10 p.m. but instead of
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bed at 10 p.m. but instead of
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bed at 10 p.m. but instead of five plus 10 then it's not a balance
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five plus 10 then it's not a balance
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five plus 10 then it's not a balance anymore so that's can be we put pressure
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anymore so that's can be we put pressure
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anymore so that's can be we put pressure on ourselves to be balanced my God that
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on ourselves to be balanced my God that
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on ourselves to be balanced my God that sounds bad but also we have a lot of
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sounds bad but also we have a lot of
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sounds bad but also we have a lot of external expectations which we try to
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external expectations which we try to
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external expectations which we try to meet like
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meet like
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meet like Inver in your life personal life like
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Inver in your life personal life like
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Inver in your life personal life like your manager or your significant other
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your manager or your significant other
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your manager or your significant other maybe a spouse or somebody yeah a couple
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maybe a spouse or somebody yeah a couple
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maybe a spouse or somebody yeah a couple of things can be like uh it can be that
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of things can be like uh it can be that
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of things can be like uh it can be that there is a work deadline and you are
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there is a work deadline and you are
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there is a work deadline and you are expected to meet deadline with a good
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expected to meet deadline with a good
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expected to meet deadline with a good quality work so it's a complex
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quality work so it's a complex
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quality work so it's a complex expectation
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expectation
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expectation which that's the value in your work so
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which that's the value in your work so
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which that's the value in your work so you have to meet that and you feel that
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you have to meet that and you feel that
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you have to meet that and you feel that you have to meet that but also we have
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you have to meet that but also we have
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you have to meet that but also we have non work expectations like you should
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non work expectations like you should
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non work expectations like you should prepare dinner every evening or you
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prepare dinner every evening or you
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prepare dinner every evening or you should do the laundry every weekend or
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should do the laundry every weekend or
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should do the laundry every weekend or and all these expectations keep adding
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and all these expectations keep adding
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and all these expectations keep adding up right uh you you compound them them
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up right uh you you compound them them
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up right uh you you compound them them and it becomes this very large pile of
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and it becomes this very large pile of
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and it becomes this very large pile of expectation and it's harder and harder
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expectation and it's harder and harder
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expectation and it's harder and harder to meet them because you have the
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to meet them because you have the
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to meet them because you have the pressure psychologically it's a big and
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pressure psychologically it's a big and
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pressure psychologically it's a big and you get stressed and your your shoulders
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you get stressed and your your shoulders
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you get stressed and your your shoulders go up and you get really stressed and
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go up and you get really stressed and
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go up and you get really stressed and it's like oh my God I can't do this I'm
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it's like oh my God I can't do this I'm
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it's like oh my God I can't do this I'm a I'm I'm a failure yes and you are just
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a I'm I'm a failure yes and you are just
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a I'm I'm a failure yes and you are just juggling oh you are expecting this my
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juggling oh you are expecting this my
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juggling oh you are expecting this my boss is expecting something else my
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boss is expecting something else my
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boss is expecting something else my husband is expecting my children are
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husband is expecting my children are
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husband is expecting my children are expecting I'm expecting from myself yeah
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expecting I'm expecting from myself yeah
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expecting I'm expecting from myself yeah it's very hard so how do you give
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it's very hard so how do you give
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it's very hard so how do you give yourself a break how do you figure like
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yourself a break how do you figure like
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yourself a break how do you figure like you know you have to take the pressure
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you know you have to take the pressure
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you know you have to take the pressure off that's a very hard thing because you
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off that's a very hard thing because you
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off that's a very hard thing because you cannot switch off like this it's not
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cannot switch off like this it's not
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cannot switch off like this it's not like I can just I don't give a crap
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like I can just I don't give a crap
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like I can just I don't give a crap about the deadline at work you can't not
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about the deadline at work you can't not
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about the deadline at work you can't not give a you have to you have to care
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give a you have to you have to care
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give a you have to you have to care about that and also you know you can
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about that and also you know you can
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about that and also you know you can discuss it with friends or with a coach
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discuss it with friends or with a coach
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discuss it with friends or with a coach or with a mentor with a colleague with
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or with a mentor with a colleague with
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or with a mentor with a colleague with your manager in work but many times it's
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your manager in work but many times it's
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your manager in work but many times it's also give you more pressure because if
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also give you more pressure because if
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also give you more pressure because if someone tells you you should slow down
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someone tells you you should slow down
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someone tells you you should slow down then that's again an expect more
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then that's again an expect more
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then that's again an expect more pressure right so now they're telling me
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pressure right so now they're telling me
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pressure right so now they're telling me I can't do it now they're telling me I'm
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I can't do it now they're telling me I'm
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I can't do it now they're telling me I'm not good enough and that doesn't relieve
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not good enough and that doesn't relieve
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not good enough and that doesn't relieve pressure it actually adds pressure oh my
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pressure it actually adds pressure oh my
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pressure it actually adds pressure oh my God exactly and they have that good
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God exactly and they have that good
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God exactly and they have that good intent that you I want you to be healthy
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intent that you I want you to be healthy
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intent that you I want you to be healthy and happy yes you should slow down but
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and happy yes you should slow down but
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and happy yes you should slow down but you take it as criticism criticism oh
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you take it as criticism criticism oh
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you take it as criticism criticism oh God mhm because now I'm really a failure
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God mhm because now I'm really a failure
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God mhm because now I'm really a failure because I even they say that now they
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because I even they say that now they
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because I even they say that now they now other people say that I'm a failure
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now other people say that I'm a failure
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now other people say that I'm a failure as well it's not only me telling me
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as well it's not only me telling me
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as well it's not only me telling me oh gosh exact so what are some ways that
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oh gosh exact so what are some ways that
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oh gosh exact so what are some ways that we can try to um make our lives better
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we can try to um make our lives better
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we can try to um make our lives better you're a life coach so what do you coach
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you're a life coach so what do you coach
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you're a life coach so what do you coach people to do uh my number one
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people to do uh my number one
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people to do uh my number one recommendation well it would be slowed
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recommendation well it would be slowed
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recommendation well it would be slowed down but obviously it does not work like
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down but obviously it does not work like
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down but obviously it does not work like that you just can't tell someone to
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that you just can't tell someone to
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that you just can't tell someone to they're not going to slow down because
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they're not going to slow down because
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they're not going to slow down because you say it no no no but what works is
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you say it no no no but what works is
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you say it no no no but what works is when you check in with yourself yep and
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when you check in with yourself yep and
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when you check in with yourself yep and you check in your energy level and you
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you check in your energy level and you
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you check in your energy level and you realize that no it's not going to get
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realize that no it's not going to get
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realize that no it's not going to get better if I push myself through this
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better if I push myself through this
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better if I push myself through this maybe it's better to drink a coffee to
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maybe it's better to drink a coffee to
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maybe it's better to drink a coffee to go for a walk okay uh but you have so it
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go for a walk okay uh but you have so it
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go for a walk okay uh but you have so it needs to come from the within what would
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needs to come from the within what would
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needs to come from the within what would feel good for you now and the other
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feel good for you now and the other
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feel good for you now and the other thing about all the
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thing about all the
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thing about all the expectations I
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expectations I
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expectations I would recommend to evaluate all these
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would recommend to evaluate all these
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would recommend to evaluate all these expectations so for example if you hear
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expectations so for example if you hear
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expectations so for example if you hear the should you should this okay what I
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the should you should this okay what I
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the should you should this okay what I recommend and what I teach to everyone
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recommend and what I teach to everyone
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recommend and what I teach to everyone to ask a question who says that I should
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to ask a question who says that I should
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to ask a question who says that I should oh okay yeah yeah it does it really mean
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oh okay yeah yeah it does it really mean
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oh okay yeah yeah it does it really mean that I have to or it's somebody else so
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that I have to or it's somebody else so
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that I have to or it's somebody else so for example you tell me you should cut
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for example you tell me you should cut
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for example you tell me you should cut your hair shorter right for example okay
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your hair shorter right for example okay
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your hair shorter right for example okay that can be a good intent of course but
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that can be a good intent of course but
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that can be a good intent of course but I have to or I can consider I can go
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I have to or I can consider I can go
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I have to or I can consider I can go right to the hairdresser and cut my hair
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right to the hairdresser and cut my hair
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right to the hairdresser and cut my hair or I can think about it and it's a big
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or I can think about it and it's a big
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or I can think about it and it's a big difference when you can stop MH and not
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difference when you can stop MH and not
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difference when you can stop MH and not take every you
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take every you
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take every you should so you stop on top of your you
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should so you stop on top of your you
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should so you stop on top of your you stop you stop and measure like does this
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stop you stop and measure like does this
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stop you stop and measure like does this does that make sense what you said that
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does that make sense what you said that
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does that make sense what you said that I should do yes and not put on ADD
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I should do yes and not put on ADD
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I should do yes and not put on ADD okay right and and maybe ask those
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okay right and and maybe ask those
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okay right and and maybe ask those questions properly right when you say I
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questions properly right when you say I
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questions properly right when you say I should cut my hair what do you mean
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should cut my hair what do you mean
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should cut my hair what do you mean right do you mean that you think my hair
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right do you mean that you think my hair
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right do you mean that you think my hair is awful or or are you trying to suggest
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is awful or or are you trying to suggest
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is awful or or are you trying to suggest that I uh might feel better if I am have
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that I uh might feel better if I am have
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that I uh might feel better if I am have a ni have a nicer hair and and I might
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a ni have a nicer hair and and I might
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a ni have a nicer hair and and I might feel better about myself or you know
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feel better about myself or you know
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feel better about myself or you know what is the what are you asking me
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what is the what are you asking me
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what is the what are you asking me exactly what are you saying that I
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exactly what are you saying that I
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exactly what are you saying that I should and also we play a lot in our
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should and also we play a lot in our
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should and also we play a lot in our brain so if I tell you hey let's grab a
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brain so if I tell you hey let's grab a
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brain so if I tell you hey let's grab a coffee does it mean that I want to spend
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coffee does it mean that I want to spend
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coffee does it mean that I want to spend quality time with you to talk about life
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quality time with you to talk about life
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quality time with you to talk about life and everything or or does it mean that
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and everything or or does it mean that
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and everything or or does it mean that you look very terrible and very tired
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you look very terrible and very tired
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you look very terrible and very tired and I want to suggest that you need a
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and I want to suggest that you need a
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and I want to suggest that you need a coffee oh wow that's true that's true so
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coffee oh wow that's true that's true so
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coffee oh wow that's true that's true so and and instead of instead of asking
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and and instead of instead of asking
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and and instead of instead of asking these things we take it upon ourselves
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these things we take it upon ourselves
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these things we take it upon ourselves to interpret that we we think we know
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to interpret that we we think we know
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to interpret that we we think we know what you were asking right and also the
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what you were asking right and also the
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what you were asking right and also the more we have on the pile it's harder to
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more we have on the pile it's harder to
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more we have on the pile it's harder to break this pattern and and when you're
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break this pattern and and when you're
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break this pattern and and when you're stressed out don't
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stressed out don't
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stressed out don't you have a t tendency I I'm I'm just
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you have a t tendency I I'm I'm just
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you have a t tendency I I'm I'm just asking and assuming here doesn't a
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asking and assuming here doesn't a
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asking and assuming here doesn't a person have a tendency to assume the
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person have a tendency to assume the
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person have a tendency to assume the worst about every every incoming thing
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worst about every every incoming thing
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worst about every every incoming thing once we are already stressed I'm already
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once we are already stressed I'm already
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once we are already stressed I'm already here I'm tense and stressed and somebody
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here I'm tense and stressed and somebody
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here I'm tense and stressed and somebody says hey let's go get let's go grab a
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says hey let's go get let's go grab a
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says hey let's go get let's go grab a coffee that can even such a simple thing
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coffee that can even such a simple thing
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coffee that can even such a simple thing be felt like criticism yes right totally
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be felt like criticism yes right totally
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be felt like criticism yes right totally totally but the thing about the worry
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totally but the thing about the worry
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totally but the thing about the worry and about that assuming things yeah is
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and about that assuming things yeah is
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and about that assuming things yeah is that when you worry about about
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that when you worry about about
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that when you worry about about something right what others think about
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something right what others think about
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something right what others think about you what if I lose my job what if I
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you what if I lose my job what if I
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you what if I lose my job what if I don't know what happens so we can worry
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don't know what happens so we can worry
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don't know what happens so we can worry about thousand things every day we can
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about thousand things every day we can
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about thousand things every day we can but the thing is most of those things do
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but the thing is most of those things do
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but the thing is most of those things do not happen they don't become reality
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not happen they don't become reality
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not happen they don't become reality what if I lose my job you don't what if
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what if I lose my job you don't what if
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what if I lose my job you don't what if people think that my hair is crazy they
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people think that my hair is crazy they
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people think that my hair is crazy they don't yeah what if I spill my coffee you
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don't yeah what if I spill my coffee you
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don't yeah what if I spill my coffee you don't but the thing is with this pet
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don't but the thing is with this pet
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don't but the thing is with this pet that I am worrying the thing does not
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that I am worrying the thing does not
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that I am worrying the thing does not happen I am worrying the thing does not
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happen I am worrying the thing does not
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happen I am worrying the thing does not happen cycle you have a cycle and you
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happen cycle you have a cycle and you
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happen cycle you have a cycle and you train your brain that to prevent bad
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train your brain that to prevent bad
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train your brain that to prevent bad things you have to worry oh wow oh now
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things you have to worry oh wow oh now
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things you have to worry oh wow oh now that hurts that hurts for you're saying
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that hurts that hurts for you're saying
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that hurts that hurts for you're saying that which means you are not enjoying
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that which means you are not enjoying
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that which means you are not enjoying your life now because you are worried
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your life now because you are worried
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your life now because you are worried about things that would not happen
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about things that would not happen
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about things that would not happen anyway oh my God okay
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anyway oh my God okay
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anyway oh my God okay so uh uh what what about the what about
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so uh uh what what about the what about
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so uh uh what what about the what about awareness here are people unaware of
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awareness here are people unaware of
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awareness here are people unaware of these unhealthy cycles and patterns
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these unhealthy cycles and patterns
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these unhealthy cycles and patterns absolutely yes okay and and what's the
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absolutely yes okay and and what's the
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absolutely yes okay and and what's the way to become more aware stop and take a
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way to become more aware stop and take a
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way to become more aware stop and take a break I mean well that would be the best
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break I mean well that would be the best
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break I mean well that would be the best to I would say meditate to go for a walk
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to I would say meditate to go for a walk
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to I would say meditate to go for a walk to check in with yourself uh or you can
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to check in with yourself uh or you can
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to check in with yourself uh or you can refrain it to have a meeting with
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refrain it to have a meeting with
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refrain it to have a meeting with yourself right it can be a walk it can
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yourself right it can be a walk it can
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yourself right it can be a walk it can be going to the gym it can be just
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be going to the gym it can be just
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be going to the gym it can be just sitting and do nothing
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sitting and do nothing
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sitting and do nothing but
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but
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but really be your be with yourself yeah
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really be your be with yourself yeah
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really be your be with yourself yeah yeah I've had this thing that I've done
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yeah I've had this thing that I've done
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yeah I've had this thing that I've done a couple of times uh for myself because
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a couple of times uh for myself because
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a couple of times uh for myself because I same as most other live a very hectic
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I same as most other live a very hectic
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I same as most other live a very hectic and very fastpaced life I'm all over the
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and very fastpaced life I'm all over the
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and very fastpaced life I'm all over the place right um but sometimes when I
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place right um but sometimes when I
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place right um but sometimes when I travel I get a moment because I I
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travel I get a moment because I I
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travel I get a moment because I I sometimes travel myself maybe or for
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sometimes travel myself maybe or for
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sometimes travel myself maybe or for alone right to to to a conference
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alone right to to to a conference
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alone right to to to a conference somewhere and I try to take that time at
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somewhere and I try to take that time at
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somewhere and I try to take that time at least I know it's not enough but at
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least I know it's not enough but at
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least I know it's not enough but at least taking that opportunity to sit
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least taking that opportunity to sit
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least taking that opportunity to sit with a good friend and and and talk to
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with a good friend and and and talk to
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with a good friend and and and talk to myself and just be as much present with
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myself and just be as much present with
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myself and just be as much present with myself uh as an old friend in the moment
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myself uh as an old friend in the moment
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myself uh as an old friend in the moment of my travel very I I I enjoy traveling
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of my travel very I I I enjoy traveling
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of my travel very I I I enjoy traveling now because some people say I hate
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now because some people say I hate
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now because some people say I hate traveling it's so much pressure I I
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traveling it's so much pressure I I
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traveling it's so much pressure I I think I'm going to miss the next flight
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think I'm going to miss the next flight
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think I'm going to miss the next flight and will my luggage arrive and and all
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and will my luggage arrive and and all
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and will my luggage arrive and and all the pressure but I try to go the other
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the pressure but I try to go the other
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the pressure but I try to go the other way and just I am I am out there I am an
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way and just I am I am out there I am an
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way and just I am I am out there I am an anonymous person in the sea of Travelers
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anonymous person in the sea of Travelers
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anonymous person in the sea of Travelers in the world and I can take that time to
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in the world and I can take that time to
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in the world and I can take that time to be with me yes or if you are a parent
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be with me yes or if you are a parent
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be with me yes or if you are a parent for examp I have three children for me
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for examp I have three children for me
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for examp I have three children for me travel time is me time even if I'm busy
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travel time is me time even if I'm busy
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travel time is me time even if I'm busy at a conference or with a client or
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at a conference or with a client or
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at a conference or with a client or because I don't have to prepare
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because I don't have to prepare
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because I don't have to prepare breakfast I don't have to think about
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breakfast I don't have to think about
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breakfast I don't have to think about the laundry the dishwasher because you
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the laundry the dishwasher because you
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the laundry the dishwasher because you can't it's all it's all at home exactly
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can't it's all it's all at home exactly
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can't it's all it's all at home exactly and I have and guess what the pile of
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and I have and guess what the pile of
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and I have and guess what the pile of laundry is still going to be there when
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laundry is still going to be there when
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laundry is still going to be there when you get home absolutely but what it does
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you get home absolutely but what it does
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you get home absolutely but what it does not change anything if I worry about it
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not change anything if I worry about it
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not change anything if I worry about it so if I enjoy myself here I can take
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so if I enjoy myself here I can take
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so if I enjoy myself here I can take care of the laundry when I get home
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care of the laundry when I get home
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care of the laundry when I get home that's true that's true so so you need
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that's true that's true so so you need
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that's true that's true so so you need to you need to find some time for you to
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to you need to find some time for you to
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to you need to find some time for you to be with number one right yes because if
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be with number one right yes because if
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be with number one right yes because if you can make number one feel better
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you can make number one feel better
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you can make number one feel better you're going to be so much more valuable
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you're going to be so much more valuable
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you're going to be so much more valuable to everyone else people you care about
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to everyone else people you care about
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to everyone else people you care about totally they're going to help that's
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totally they're going to help that's
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totally they're going to help that's going to help everyone yes exactly
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going to help everyone yes exactly
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going to help everyone yes exactly rather than uh being this stressed out
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rather than uh being this stressed out
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rather than uh being this stressed out double working mother or somebody right
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double working mother or somebody right
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double working mother or somebody right whoever we are right oh that makes sense
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whoever we are right oh that makes sense
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whoever we are right oh that makes sense so any other good advice for people who
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so any other good advice for people who
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so any other good advice for people who are feeling pressure and stress um what
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are feeling pressure and stress um what
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are feeling pressure and stress um what should we do in life to meditate and
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should we do in life to meditate and
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should we do in life to meditate and stuff that's great that's always good
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stuff that's great that's always good
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stuff that's great that's always good advice meditating yeah or checking with
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advice meditating yeah or checking with
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advice meditating yeah or checking with yourself or praying whatever that helps
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yourself or praying whatever that helps
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yourself or praying whatever that helps you whats for you yeah it's going to be
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you whats for you yeah it's going to be
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you whats for you yeah it's going to be different for everyone absolutely or you
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different for everyone absolutely or you
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different for everyone absolutely or you mentioned travel for me travel is also
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mentioned travel for me travel is also
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mentioned travel for me travel is also me time but yes there are others who
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me time but yes there are others who
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me time but yes there are others who hate traveling maybe a walking in the
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hate traveling maybe a walking in the
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hate traveling maybe a walking in the forest works for maybe just
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forest works for maybe just
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forest works for maybe just consciously um searching for that time
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consciously um searching for that time
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consciously um searching for that time to be with yourself yes uh maybe that's
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to be with yourself yes uh maybe that's
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to be with yourself yes uh maybe that's a start and also don't make it as an
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a start and also don't make it as an
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a start and also don't make it as an expectation so for example you hear
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expectation so for example you hear
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expectation so for example you hear about oh a walk in the forest or a
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about oh a walk in the forest or a
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about oh a walk in the forest or a hiking sounds good I go there I have to
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hiking sounds good I go there I have to
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hiking sounds good I go there I have to go I'm going to schedule that between
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go I'm going to schedule that between
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go I'm going to schedule that between between I have to enjoy that I must now
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between I have to enjoy that I must now
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between I have to enjoy that I must now enjoy it yeah exactly and you had
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enjoy it yeah exactly and you had
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enjoy it yeah exactly and you had another pressure exactly so it's not
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another pressure exactly so it's not
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another pressure exactly so it's not that just find something that you can be
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that just find something that you can be
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that just find something that you can be really there you can be really present
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really there you can be really present
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really there you can be really present some people read a book uh some people
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some people read a book uh some people
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some people read a book uh some people go for a run I know that I don't super
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go for a run I know that I don't super
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go for a run I know that I don't super much enjoy running I I respect people
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much enjoy running I I respect people
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much enjoy running I I respect people who do a lot of running but it's not my
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who do a lot of running but it's not my
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who do a lot of running but it's not my game but what I found out when I did do
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game but what I found out when I did do
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game but what I found out when I did do a bit of running was that in the
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a bit of running was that in the
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a bit of running was that in the beginning when I started running my
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beginning when I started running my
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beginning when I started running my brain would be all tense I would be
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brain would be all tense I would be
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brain would be all tense I would be thinking about work and maybe the
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thinking about work and maybe the
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thinking about work and maybe the laundry and things right i' be like
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laundry and things right i' be like
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laundry and things right i' be like running running but after a while it
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running running but after a while it
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running running but after a while it it it subsides and and you go into a
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it it subsides and and you go into a
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it it subsides and and you go into a flow and you're just running and your
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flow and you're just running and your
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flow and you're just running and your brain is emptying yes right and that's
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brain is emptying yes right and that's
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brain is emptying yes right and that's what we're looking for a way
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what we're looking for a way
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what we're looking for a way to exactly and if you run or walk or
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to exactly and if you run or walk or
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to exactly and if you run or walk or hike you can focus on okay one step
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hike you can focus on okay one step
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hike you can focus on okay one step after another or if you I don't know go
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after another or if you I don't know go
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after another or if you I don't know go to the gym that's a different story if
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to the gym that's a different story if
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to the gym that's a different story if you sit down and read just that's a also
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you sit down and read just that's a also
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you sit down and read just that's a also just yeah this shift when you really
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just yeah this shift when you really
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just yeah this shift when you really feel relaxed whatever it is and the goal
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feel relaxed whatever it is and the goal
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feel relaxed whatever it is and the goal is to feel better about yourself and for
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is to feel better about yourself and for
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is to feel better about yourself and for yourself for you and and you shouldn't
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yourself for you and and you shouldn't
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yourself for you and and you shouldn't feel guilty about that because when you
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feel guilty about that because when you
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feel guilty about that because when you are feeling better you you can be more
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are feeling better you you can be more
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are feeling better you you can be more effective to all all all who is around
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effective to all all all who is around
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effective to all all all who is around you and you're not the angry mother who
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you and you're not the angry mother who
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you and you're not the angry mother who is yelling at the kids for not picking
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is yelling at the kids for not picking
15:17
is yelling at the kids for not picking up the the dirty laundry off the floor
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up the the dirty laundry off the floor
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up the the dirty laundry off the floor yes you know that might happen right I
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yes you know that might happen right I
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yes you know that might happen right I have children myself you know but that's
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have children myself you know but that's
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have children myself you know but that's another that's another pressure right
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another that's another pressure right
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another that's another pressure right but you become this this angry person
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but you become this this angry person
15:28
but you become this this angry person and you don't want to be that you want
15:29
and you don't want to be that you want
15:29
and you don't want to be that you want to be you know in the in the present
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to be you know in the in the present
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to be you know in the in the present with your with your loved ones as well
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with your with your loved ones as well
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with your with your loved ones as well so they they see the other part of you y
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so they they see the other part of you y
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so they they see the other part of you y brilliant well you know what I think
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brilliant well you know what I think
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brilliant well you know what I think that's a wrap for this episode I I
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that's a wrap for this episode I I
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that's a wrap for this episode I I really really enjoyed talking to you
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really really enjoyed talking to you
15:44
really really enjoyed talking to you about this because I think everyone
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about this because I think everyone
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about this because I think everyone feels pressure and um it's important to
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feels pressure and um it's important to
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feels pressure and um it's important to care for ourselves because we want to
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care for ourselves because we want to
15:52
care for ourselves because we want to have a long and meaningful and health
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have a long and meaningful and health
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have a long and meaningful and health healthy life right exactly and uh so
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healthy life right exactly and uh so
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healthy life right exactly and uh so thank you U thank you Agnes for being on
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thank you U thank you Agnes for being on
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thank you U thank you Agnes for being on the show with me today I really enjoyed
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the show with me today I really enjoyed
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the show with me today I really enjoyed it we're going to go back to the espc
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it we're going to go back to the espc
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it we're going to go back to the espc conference now yeah and audience I will
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conference now yeah and audience I will
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conference now yeah and audience I will see you next time on the cloud show
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