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How's everybody doing today? This nice, sunny, warm, humid Friday. Everybody, welcome to the show

My name is Mahesh Chan. I'm founder of C Sharp Corner and host of this Growth Mindset Show

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um so yeah let's get started so what we're going to talk about today today is uh focus on uh

carrier advice so if you have any questions about your career mostly in software development

you have questions about growth how to you know i see one of some of the questions i see all the

time people ask is oh how do i become a software architect oh i have two years experience in dot

net how do I you know go to the next level or what new technology should I learn in dot net

oh I'm stuck in a project for so long and I'm not learning new things so all those questions we will

we will take uh while I'm talking about this but but if you're joining us first time let me explain

you this show is all about you this show is not for me uh I'm here just to share my experience

what you know for past 23 24 25 years i have been in it industry mostly in software development

so if you have any questions and anything on your mind that's where i'm more focused i want to

help you and answer those questions so if you have any questions start posting them there

okay we're going to start posting in your comments we take questions live and end of the show if

you're interested you want to come live hang out in the studio you can also come join live

so let's get started um it's friday here and i'm sure everywhere it's friday including india asia

europe and the us it's noon around here outside of philadelphia it's really sunny and and summer

right now the summer peak summer right so probably 95 degrees and summertime in the US you know things

really you know they are slow they're slower because a lot of people are on vacation there's

a lot of sports going on and traveling going on I'm traveling every weekend so every weekend we

have sports I'm in different town different city today I'm going to travel in the afternoon so

So that's why you probably see some of the, you know, some Fridays I don't have any shows

For example, next Friday, I don't think I will have a show. I will be traveling to Atlantic City where we have a weekend tournament on basketball

So let's start with a few things. Everybody, welcome. I see good morning

Welcome to the show. Pradeep is here. Deepak is there. Vakas. Bashir is there

Todd, you're considering your first time from Facebook, joining us from Facebook

Welcome to the show. If one more thing I ask everybody is if you think you like this show and you are getting any benefit out of this

you think your friends and co-workers may get benefit out of it. Please, please, please let them know

Yeah, definitely. Ravi, definitely it's always sunny in Philadelphia. That's not a true statement

Winter is bad. winter is not that good here but yes right now it's sunny in philadelphia

oh another one other thing i want to mention here is as your summit so i'm not sure if you

have seen i'm sure a lot of you have already seen as your summit is doing a fantastic job

the team is doing fantastic job it's becoming one of the largest conference ever ever when i say ever

Oh, you see my colors changing? You see my colors changing the video. That's because there's cloud outside, sometimes sunny, sometimes clouds, sometimes that's why you probably see. I'm not doing any magic here. Okay

So as you submit, I'm very excited about this conference. It's going to be, we were supposed to have this as a two-day conference

Then we turn it to three-day conference. Then it turned into five-day conference

Then became seven-day conference. And I have a feeling that we are going to continue to even add more days to this conference

because there's so many speakers already applying, still applying. and we already have 8,000 sign of registration

People have registered already, 8,000 registrations already. That's the registration. And imagine live is going to be

I think it's going to reach 50,000 plus people watching live. So that's something

Check it out. If you have not registered so far, check out azuresummit azuresummit And you know it going to be exciting so it going to be great great learning experience for everybody So before we take questions we talk about career advice

a couple of more things I want to cover here is on C-sharp corner we just launched a new feature

called challenge. If you have not tried that give it a try. Challenges are something fun to test your

skills. So if you you want to test yourself how good you are in C sharp language there's a C sharp

challenge. There is a Stratus challenge and there's just I think yesterday we just launched a Java

challenge. There's going to be Azure challenge. So goal is for every category for example react

angular c-sharp.net all the as you are we will have couple of challenges and challenge is basically

simple as fun you just go through these eight or ten or twelve questions and depending on

skill set you will see you can learn and then you will see how good you are so that's the challenge

part you check it out c-sharp corner slash challenges and let us know what do you think

of that we would love to have your any feedback you know a bad good whatever you find any problems

issues we are always always looking for critics and good good feedback that can help improve the

platform so with that said we are eight minutes in the show um it looks like more people are

joining in everybody welcome to the show feel free to post your comments feel free to ask your

questions no question is a bad question here okay we are not like other communities where

If you don't know how to ask a question, we don't blast on you

We don't. Every question is a good question. You can ask any questions

Not only you can ask career related questions, you can also ask questions about community, questions about jobs, questions about MVP, whatever you have questions

Just ask. OK, that's what we are here for. And asking questions also makes my job easy and fun because that keeps me engaged

And I don't have to think about, OK, what are we going to talk about today? Makes sense. All right, Ramakrishnan, welcome to the show

Hopefully you enjoy the show. So and also on my other side in the studio, I have Simon here who is behind the scene

We also have our social media team. They're always working behind the scene

Simon, in our team, you can also jump in, ask your questions as well

So we'll take all kind of questions today. today is more about just putting any questions related to carry advice

Hopefully COVID is getting better at your place wherever you are joining us. I know there's cases

are ups and downs and looks like we are not done with COVID yet. I just saw news this morning that

COVID cases even in the US now are rising. I thought we were kind of going down and one of

the challenge is that some people are just not getting vaccinated. We have a lot of vaccine here

in the U.S. Now you can just walk in anywhere and get vaccinated right away. But there's a certain

percentage of population. They just, I don't know if they don't believe in it or they ignore it or

they don't care. They think, oh, I'm healthy. I'm not going to get COVID. I mean, that's great that

you have the confidence but again this is something where if we are not combined together

if we are not working together chances are this will still hang around for a while so if you

can go please please go ahead and try to get the vaccine um so uh hopefully and the good thing with

that is that it's not about you really it's a it's again dave just said dave welcome to the show get

the damn shot yes i said get the shot it's not really about you because even though you're healthy

even though you don't have any symptoms but you could be the transmitter you could be the

you know conductor who takes the virus from one place one person to pass it to somebody else

and that person could be somebody elderly somebody who's sick that's that's the that's the problem

that's the challenge so yes please please go get the shot um one more thing is uh we are always on

c-sharp corner events and conferences we are always raising money for uh you know helping

kids children who are in need uh so if you are somebody who are able to donate please go ahead

and and donate on this conference website we have links everywhere uh so yes i agree uh i agree uh

thought we have to get vaccine to prevent variant because they want they're going to continue to

adopt see this this uh cobit is very smart right it's just uh it's just coming over the new forms

and try to sneak us on so until we get this whole thing 100 done it'll be hard to get rid of it

so all right let's start the show so we're going to start with the show one of my favorite questions

which a lot of people are asked some of these questions i have compiled from c-sharp corner

career advice forums so if you don't know there's we on c-sharp corner we have something called

career advice forums where you can post any questions ask any questions about your career

advice and there are a few experts there they're always asking there so one of my my favorite

question here on this is I need help in choosing .NET technology. So this person he said he's

two years experience, he's a junior developer, he needs help choosing .NET technology. And as we all

know that .NET is a big universe. .NET is just not a one platform where you just build one kind of app

in dotnet you can build all kind of apps you can build windows apps you can build you know mobile

apps you can build uh web applications you can build services you can build cloud applications

so and so forth so if you have to learn a new something new in dotnet and make sure you have

jobs in future and there's a big demand what would that be so if you ask me in this all my feedback

all comes from what I see in the market, what I read it, and what kind of jobs are available in

the market. Right now there's plenty of jobs in .NET. If you are a .NET developer, there's big demand

And as a matter of fact, we can't find, I talk to anybody we can't find in Philadelphia area here

we can't find enough .NET developers who are, you know, who are good

So that includes ASP.NET MVC, that includes Blazor, also Azure, Cloud, if you are doing

doing anything like there's a lot of software being built. If you are building APIs, web APIs, there's a lot of .NET core

and now probably .NET 5 will be going to be used for that for a while

So if you are in .NET and you say, you know what

I want to upgrade myself. So Blazor is something you want to do. We building web APIs Try to build and deploy that in Azure and consume from Azure That something is everything is going to cloud right So Azure is the closest to if you a developer you will find Azure Home

And also, if you are somebody who is new to Azure, you will get a free account there and there's a free credits available to you too

So that's something I highly recommend. Other thing I'm seeing a lot is demand is obviously conversion from older .NET to the newer .NET

Now it's .NET 5. There's .NET Core as well. But now .NET 5 migration is kind of start

People start paying attention to that because of the performance. And David talked on his show about, you know, he has a show where he talked about .NET 5, how good it is

and six is coming soon too. So look at that, check it out

So that's what I would do is probably make sure you have Azure somehow, somewhere in your learning path

which is important. Get certified, right? Azure has these developer associate and beginners

all these certification, get certification done. And David just said he's migrating to .NET 6

And there is a question here. There is a question here. is what percentage of is .NET versus .NET Core

Well, I think majority of the applications were until now were .NET

and I don't know the exact number, but if I have to guess

it's probably going to be a big number like 80 to 20 or even 85 to 15 or even 90 to 10

It's not net core has not, you know, there's a lot of old applications

.NET applications running in these big companies, even banks, financial institutions and all that

They're not converting those, especially if the application was a big Windows monolithic app

or there's big ESP.NET applications. Even give an example, our C-sharp corner is still in .NET

We have never converted in .NET Core. It's just a lot of work

It's just a lot of effort. But we are slowly thinking to migrate to Blazor

That's what we're going to do. So hopefully this answers the question that if you are in a .NET world, if you want to learn new technology, what should you be learning? That's kind of, that's what my advice would be. And then let's take more questions. Let's take one question from audience now before I go and pick my other questions

Yes, Dave said he's a good .NET developer. The only challenge we are hiring is that these companies need full-time employees, full-time

they're hiring for. And obviously they want, I know it's not ideal, but they want somebody who's local

They want somebody who can go and sit in the meetings and they are not 100% virtual yet

That's unfortunate. But I see a big trend that there is going to be 40% of workforce now going to be virtual

60% is going to be in person when everything gets normal. Yep

All right. So let's take another question from Narendra. He said, is it possible to start and do a startup company while doing your job

So before I take this answer to this question, everybody who's joining us, welcome to the show

This show today is we are talking about career advice. So if any questions you have, please feel free to ask

Just post in the comments here. No question is a bad question

You can ask any questions. It can be anything. You can ask about even what's behind my back, on my wall, behind my back

So, yeah, whatever it is, just ask any questions. More questions are good

So it keeps everybody busy. So let's go back to this startups, right

So if you are working in a company and you want to do your own startup, so here's the good news, Narendra and bad news

There's, you know, both sides. Depends on how you see. A lot of startups, companies start this way that people are working already on their jobs and they start this something side by side part time

Yeah, a lot of people do that. I did that when I started Mindcracker in, you know, 99, 2000

that's how I did. I was working as an employee. I was young, very young and then side by side I

start this company. I start the company, start doing some smaller projects and then once the

company start making enough money then I full-time moved to this my company. Yeah, it's no

problem doing that. So the only challenge sometimes is that because some startups

don't have a lot of time so if you have this creative ideas which is very competitive your

building says something app for food delivery for example and if you do this part-time as a site

and this is not your primary job what happens there's other people end up building faster and

launching and then you just end up wasting a lot of time so i see this kind of startups all the time

i advise startups problem with this approach is that since you're not 100 focused

you just go too long take too long and things get boring and your company goes nowhere

I see people work this for five six years and they're going nowhere because they feel like

they don't want to quit their job they still want to get the salary and they all think like okay I'll

just build this company and it's going to take off itself this is not really it works it's very hard

that way I'm not saying it's not possible but it's really hard to get that going because unless you're

100% focused. So the other approach people do is while they're working at the job, they slowly

build like a POC or some kind of small concept, an idea that works. And then they go to investors

They go to investors and say, look, this, I'm working full time. I already built this small

POC and this idea and concept. It's kind of working. Now I need funding so I can quit my job

hire more people and then full-time focus on that so that's kind of ideal however raising

money can be also tricky it's not that easy so depends on what your situation is there are some

of the things you can do all right so let's take another question here from this uh Todd says I'm

in Fortune 100 company majority I did Java but my group is using 4.net 4.6.2 with only Windows

servers in dotnet 5 is more viable than dotnet core yes so 100 and i think dave dave can also

reply this as well dotnet core is pretty much done there will be no more dotnet core everything

is going to be dotnet five a good thing with dotnet five is that this is more integrated just

one dotnet platform for everything including windows um and it's much faster but they they

They did a lot of those legacy libraries. They did a lot of work on compiler

They did a lot of work on even the engine. So everything is much faster in 5 I don think it hard to really migrate from 4 to 5 because sometimes if it a Windows I think there should be easily portable options

And I saw somebody wrote and published that and I did try in one of my applications too

If you can even just compile your existing same application and just change to .NET 5, you will get a lot of benefit just out of that

So, yeah, if you have time to move to this .NET 5, that's great

But if not, then, yeah, you can try to recompile that application in .NET 5 at least

And if your code base gets to the same, I think all code base works

It's not they have not deprecated those libraries. Right. So that should work. And also, you know, we were talking on Twitter with Ravi and Dave and all about MAUI

the new framework coming for apps so it just maui is a new framework in dot net six i believe it's

just announced where you can just use this to build all kind of applications so you just build

one code base and it will application will it's kind of building like a hybrid right so when one

app you just build in this it'll work on windows and mobile and in web as well yeah so that's

something to think it's too early for mavi i think you know dave was saying there are some issues in

the template visual switch template but yeah hey if you ask me anything anybody who's building new

applications in dot net dot net five or even try dot net six because this is much not much

difference in five and six besides this improvements so it's not something that's going to break

everything right away so hopefully that answers the question okay let's take more questions from here

uh and then what we will do is i have some my own questions and then we'll talk a few other things as well too um and then we can also discuss you know

non-questions as well so you can put anything comments out here simon so here's a question as a computer

science is to dent how do I choose career path how do I know in advance what career path is good fit

for me okay that's very good question and I think a lot of students have this question and they they

always concern and they don't know the direction and the path they go to and we all been through

that I've been through that I'm sure Dave everybody in the beginning they all go through that

so if you ask me one thing is very important for you to be happy at your job for long term is

think of your interest and interest should become inside from you not just what you read

I see a lot of people talk to young guy and I was like what are you doing like oh I'm doing python

and why are you doing python because oh everybody's doing python so that's not really what i'm talking

about when i talk about your interest and your interest it means if you ask yourself deep down

in which you need to dig in deep sometimes you even don't know what you like to do really what

kind of applications you like to build are you are you like a ui guys you like to draw create

things or you're like more like a coder where you just like to solve problems algorithms or you are

like a database guy you are more better into doing ytics and reporting and engineering from the

data side what kind of person are you and you may not even know that right away that's fine

nothing wrong with it just go start with one of anything you want and I think one thing I'll

I want to really clarify here is that don't don't wait around for example if you like machine

learning and you say you know what i'm only going to do machine learning don't just wait around you

can still learn other programming things that's okay to learn data structure that's okay to learn

even any c-sharp programming because all these combine in the in the big picture when you are

15 years experience 20 years experience you will need all okay you will need all of it a little bit

here a little bit there and you will figure it out what you like over time but if you just say

you know I don't know what to choose and you're just waiting around and there's confusion you

wanna get out of that just do something whatever the fastest way you can learn anything new okay

also people ask oh should I do java should I do dot net c sharp it doesn't matter it doesn't

matter what programming language you choose end of the day you are solving a problem okay so as

a software engineer or developer you are a problem solver your goal is business comes up with a

business says oh i have this problem and your goal is to become that solve that problem regardless of

what programming language what the framework what developer stack you're going to use build the

solution once you understand the problem solving then everything else becomes easy okay so that's

what i would focus on more algorithms if you're young algorithms problem solving data data structure

is always important like how you're going to take the data how everything is important algorithms

are very important so that's what i would do is pick anything doesn't matter but when you pick a

company when you pick your very first company and that may actually impact your growth and how fast

you move is very important the picking the company sometimes you pick a large corporation sometimes

because a startup sometimes you pick a medium company wherever you pick doesn't matter your

goal should be the project you're working in is there a learning opportunity there

are you going to you know work on different things where you can you we are involved in problem

solving don't just join a big large company where you're put in a corner and nobody's really paying

attention to just gave you some testing tasks right this happens all the time you are a new guy

you're just a trainee or you just intern and they'll put you in the corner because nobody

paying attention to try to get into the team regardless of what company size is where there's

a lot of learning opportunity let me add one more thing here some people complain that oh i just

joined this company and they're giving me so much work i can't even handle that if that's the kind

of company you can find in your early career that's probably the best thing happens to you

i bet you that's and that's the company you don't want to go to company where they hardly give you

any work because that's just gonna change your habits and you're just gonna learn bad habits of

not working hard not solving problem not going through the stress of the solving those problems

that's important okay and i'm not saying that go join a company where somebody's always yelling at

you and making you work 24 hours a day. I'm just saying you need to be in a project, in a company, in a team

where they're giving you more than enough work you can handle in your time, your eight hours a day

In the long run, what it will do is it will benefit you a lot because you're going to learn how to deal this, how to deal the stress

and how to handle work pressure. And also, if you want to start your own at some day

You already have this habit of working hard. Anybody who works hard is successful

Almost. I can guarantee that. So, that's kind of my personal advice based on my experience

I would give you is pick a company where you have a lot of learning adversity

where you have a lot of work, and you try to solve a lot of problems

where you're really hands-on, not just doing one thing. All right. Hopefully, that answers that question

let's do more discussions here let's take more questions yeah Simon you got

anything else let's yeah let's talk about some what's Ravi's talking about

here is and then we'll take Todd's question Ravi says where's Simon go

Simon took a break so but in India 90% of companies don't allow to work for

money apart from the job the way around is to start a startup if name of your

wife if she's not working okay so you're saying that if you are already have

full-time job you may have conflicts with the company yeah this is everywhere

almost right I mean not legally but if company finds out you're doing side job

yeah that's that's kind of nobody's going to like it so that's best way to

start companies yeah that's fine too that's fine too anybody can be the owner in the company and

you can do side works yes and then again continue doing that this is you know important for people

who don't like their job who don't love it and they want to build their own yeah that's that's

definitely a way around um all right so let's uh take more questions here i have been working as a

developer for a couple of years something start my own starting my own do you recommend me a business

degree before uh there are two questions here right one is that you want to start your own

business and do you need a business degree um degree is very relative right some unless you're

trying to become a an employee uh and that most companies require a degree right so for example

computer science if a company is hiring you chances are they'll be asking for a minimum

bachelor degree in computer science or application development or whatever um it or computers yeah so

it's not a bad idea to have a degree if you already have a degree that's a good but i don't think you

need a business degree to start your own business that's not true nobody cares of you nobody asks

for my business degrees when you start a business and as a matter of fact most people who are

entrepreneurs, started their own companies, may not even have a business degree at all

Yes, a lot of them are computer science people in IT especially if you are. So no, that's you

don't need a degree, not at all. All right, so but you need experience, right? So if you only

have two years experience working for somebody and then you go to some other company or person

to ask for work that's where it'll be a little harder in the beginning because you need to prove

yourself i need to see for example what have you done i need to see what kind of experience you had

because biggest thing for me is the risk am i taking risk to give you a project right so if

you are starting for example software development firm or consulting company if i hire you do you

have enough experience so it's good to know for more than degrees the experience is more important

than the degree that's what i'm really trying to explain here uh yeah all right so let's take

more questions i saw a question from todd um and fear it's gonna be discussion yeah yeah i agree so

dot says that you know he's uh 55 years old and in there to learn is short because when you're

under pressure and you learn more work less time yes so productivity and always yes and always

learning are two important things um waste time is the that's what people don't understand the

time is probably the most precious thing we ever have which we cannot get it back money yes we can

everything else we can but time is something that's not going to come so if you you find a way to solve

the same problem in less time yes very important um and yeah um and you learn over time this is

something you learn over time right it's not something that will come and today it's just

a part of the experience as well yeah so definitely agree with that um

yes we uh so this is a good point right so let's i want to talk this more to a tad just said the

specialty picks you more than what you choose in my opinion we are at the service of our employers

yeah so that's another thing right so people don't understand that i see this all the time as well

when i get this talking to developers in young dumber they think that um they're not growing in

the company they don't get the growth and they always feel like somebody else's company

so when you detach yourself from the company and thinking is somebody else's company and I'm not

saying that you're gonna be a go and slave and work for that company and just don't ask for

anything that's not questionable I'm saying is that you need to first feel like this is my work

this is my project this is my company okay first you have to give that part and then if you're not

getting in return that's a problem right people first expect that company will come and give them

have come what is company company is a made of people right company self is nothing company is

made of people people make company so and you are part of that so however people are in the company

that's what company is right so if you are a part of that and you're feeling like yeah i'm just here

there to just do work but i'm going to go home and do other things then you cannot also expect that

company grow or you grow within that company if you don't like the work chances are you just try

to find your own thing start your own business start consulting become independent there's so

many options today right now in this today's world where everybody's connected everybody

almost everybody's worked remote last you know year and a half there's so much out there if you

have the capabilities if you have the skills if you can offer something better than others you

have a lot of jobs today doesn't matter if you're a full-time employee you are a consultant

or you are a you are a you know you know independent contractor doesn't matter

if you freelancer for example now i see david's comments all the time right david's on twitter

all the time, good friend, David's show is tomorrow by the way, if you

are interested, you don't know what David's show is maybe Simon can put a link here so David is posting that nobody hiring He having a hard time finding a job and he telling how bad these companies are

David, I love you. You know that. But here's my problem, right? If you already start complaining about the companies right away, good or bad

chances are those companies are going to ignore you. It's not that they're not a good company or bad companies

because they sometimes as a company, you feel like that you're afraid of that's taking hiring the person who can be the let's call it

whistleblower right so i'm just giving my opinion that if uh if it's like sometimes you are a good

guy but nobody wants you because they are afraid that this is a good guy isn't going to say right

things about us and it's going to basically blow up on our face because we we don't know we are

doing everything right with. So that's kind of, that could be something you need to think when

you're going for a company that you may be doing the right thing, but you have to also make sure

if you're trying to get a job, you need to make sure that what company wants, not what you want

And I'm not saying that you should not be saying what you want, but who's in the need? Is that you

or the company? If you need a job, you need to figure it out. What are you giving offering to

company so they can hire you but if you are make yourself good enough expert in some kind of niche

market that company wants you regardless then you can say whatever you want because now they want

you so it's other way around it's all supply and demand right it's all supply and demand so

that's where i kind of get you know keep sometimes developers and that's where i disagree with some

people out there that they just complain they complain a lot about their company about their

boss about their job but here's the thing why are you complaining there's so much other options are

out there they're better if you think you're not happy here in this company if you think you're not

happy with your boss go find something that's where you can be happy that's where they will

they will value your expertise, they will value your opinion, they will value you

Right? There's so many options out there. You should not just sit around and complain because

to me anybody who complains is like why are you complaining? Just go make sure

get better or something specialized in the field where people then come after you

that's where i've been my philosophy has always been make yourself you know either expert in one

field or you know start writing articles start speaking at the conferences and wherever says wow

this guy's an expert i want this for our project guess what then you can put your own terms so

that's that's the way approach and then you don't need to complain right because you know that what

you're offering and they will listen to you and most people are you know like you see a lot of

these mvps these are microsoft digital directors that's how they are most of them they are good

enough that companies are always after them so they don't need to really go after the jobs so

that's kind of my view and how do you do that well you continue learning new things you continue

improving yourself you continue you know speaking and promoting yourself selling yourself

other day on C-Sharp Corners growth C-Sharp live show we just launched another live show called

seven minutes of selling and I found it fascinating it's not even done by software developer it's not

for software developers for everybody so the the person who's doing is can call him good friend of

mine Colin Lake he his background is financial in sales right but we can also apply that in our

lives as software developers we can also learn from that how to sell ourselves how to sell our

expertise how to sell our you know um experience we had so a lot of is selling too from software

developer side we you know we are not good we don't sell good ourselves right we are kind of

you know what to do we know how to do but we're not a good sales sales people so becoming good

salespeople is also can get you more out of your own what you have right now you can get a better

salary you can probably get a better project you can get growth and raise in the company and you

can even move higher in the level so that's another you can think of sales and sales also

comes means communications communication is probably has to be the most important part of

our lives regardless of personal professional or anything right if you're looking for growth

so I always you know my background is program I started as a coder so you know we are not good

in communication we don't pay attention we just start building applications writing code

but people who are move who moves faster in the ladder and become more you know senior positions

are the one better communicator not the better coders okay so that's how you have to think what

you want in life if you are happy in your life being coding that's great if you want to say you

know I want more I want this I want this then you have to figure it out so that's kind of my

it was a long long discussion on one topic but yeah again you have to know your yourself

and then what you want and then how do you get that and that's where you know people like few

people like Dave David we are like always telling that you know I trust me I fight with a lot of

companies because I tell them what I feel like and I like you guys doing this stupid bullshit job

right that's all those things I said this is nonsense and then we get in trouble but I don't

want you to get in trouble so you know I you know David I we can do that we already been doing this

so long but you know if you are trying to grow within a company you need to understand what

you have to do or say and also show to move higher in the ladder

All right. So let's change the topic. Let's find some other questions. And then I have some more questions here as well

And one of my questions I'm going to talk about is how to become an architect

And there's a lot of software developers ask that question. And I'm happy to get some feedback from you

And David, if you want to jump in in the show for last 10 minutes, I'm happy to have you in the in the studio here. We can talk more about the you know architect and

code quality and dotnet 5 and anything else. Hopefully you're awake there it's in it's a

little early there in California. All right so everybody who's joining us here I see more people

join welcome to the show. As you know this is a growth mindset show but today we are talking

about career advice, general tic tac, jobs, growth. It's 15 more minutes to go. If you have any questions, feel free to ask those questions

You want to hang out with me in the studio come join me in the studio behind the scene and get on the screen Simon just posted a URL so Simon one thing I don understand is I thought okay so you posting this

comment so if I'm on YouTube I can just click on comment to get in the studio

okay I get that's okay that works that works I did not know that because I yeah

I saw the comment. All right. So any more questions? I see more questions from Venkat here. You want to take some more questions

I like, yeah, there's a lot of questions. Can we take a few more questions here? But I also like, I'll take your comments

Dave, let's create a product together. I think that's a great idea

That's a fantastic idea because looks like some of guys, you know

As you know, you definitely don't like to work for a company. The best way now to do is figure out your own thing that you love to do and then you

can enjoy that. I think I'm in with this thing. Let's do something

I agree. Let's take some questions here. Wenkat's question is, how to build a new capability in a company

What are the things to consider? I'm not sure really what this question is

It's not clear. So maybe you mean, are you the in charge in the company who are introducing new capabilities

Is that what it is? Or are you just trying to introduce a new technology to your team

For example, then that's just more like a learning curve. So maybe you can elaborate this question more

I'm not sure. Sorry, unfortunately, I didn't get the question. Do you think AI is gonna take our jobs in the future

Some jobs yes, but it doesn't mean see if you go back in 20 30 years 40 years back

I remember I was in India and we had a president my favorite president he was a farmer when I was a

a young child. Since he was a farming background, he wasn't too happy with the computers. He

said when computers will come, they will take all farmers' jobs and farmers will have no

jobs. The president, the prime minister's name was Chaudhich Ransi. And I was a child

there and I kind of agreed with him. But a few hours later, other prime minister came

and he introduced computers to the country. I don't think it has impacted any jobs for farmers

even though computers were introduced. And then recently there's newer technologies coming

and some jobs obviously disappear. For example, right now electric vehicles are coming

When electrical vehicles are coming, there's not going to be jobs for coal miners

or for gasoline companies and all that. That's obvious. but there's going to be more jobs in electric vehicle space

It's a shift, it changes, right? Same thing with AI. When AI comes, this may take some of the automation jobs, yes

but it will create more new jobs. So who benefit from that

People who are always learning and adapting are the one who always gets benefit from it

So if you make yourself adaptable to any environment and learn new things and keeping yourself upgradable

there will always be job but i don't think ai is not something that can tomorrow wake up

and say hey i'll do everything for you guys now you just get out of here there's no job

that's not going to happen um so yeah let's look at right now there's so many jobs out there if

you have skills you have capabilities you're a hard worker there's so many jobs um in the u.s

we can't find enough people right now in any industry that's just it's just uh something

crazy happening nobody's thought of it um all right let's put more questions here

uh it's not illegal so if you start your own company on your name while working in a company

uh yeah i mean this you have to look at your contract i don't think it's illegal but you have

to look at your contract um i think in any country you can start your own company while you're working

but you cannot be doing same job or similar space you have a something called non-compete

so non-compete agreement is very important because it says if you are working in a software

consulting company you cannot go and start your own software company the consulting company that's

illegal that's kind of against the the contract you have signed with the company and they can

actually go and sue you. I've seen this many times. Let me repeat this again. So there is

something called non-compete agreement which you are going to sign when you become an employee

So it says that you cannot start similar company, you cannot go to same clients, sometimes it even

says you cannot start a company within so many miles of that company, not only while you are

working there or even after you leave a job so most companies will have a contract for you know

it's called non-compete where it will say if you work without join you join this company for first

after you've done that with the job not when what is your job after you've done with the job within

for next three years after that you cannot start a similar company or similar space or even in

similar industry you cannot be in same industry i have seen non-complete agreement where

if you sign i cannot start or get a client in say philadelphia area within like 50 miles of radius

because i'm working on them or sometimes says we are a bank you cannot work for next three years

after you've done with us for next three years you cannot work with any client that's in banking

industry so you have to look at your contract but yes it's you cannot start seeing the same

industry business if you're working in a company because that's against again your company you're competing with the same business

um all right let's take more questions here uh any more questions no while we're waiting on the questions is anybody joining behind the scene

What's going on David, you around? All right, so hopefully that answered the question

We only have nine more minutes left. So let's put my favorite question is that I have few more questions came from C-sharp

corner forums. What is the most demanding and high paying technology? This is one of the questions I picked up from the forums

What is the most demanding and high paying technology of today? So right now, if you look at the job trends and salaries and demand, the biggest demand

right now is the cloud and anything in the cloud cloud migration digital transformation AI machine learning data science uh those are some of the bigger fields with other many others right that that the most

demanding right now is if um so if you're looking for a job in next year or two and say you know i

want to make more money than others those are the something you want to focus on

Also, you can make money by specializing in a field where there's less number of people

There's less number of people and there's demand coming up. That's again, you can get a lot of money

So for example, blockchain is one of the technologies that's going to grow, continue to grow

But if you're a blockchain architect, you can, and if companies are looking for it, you can

ask a very good price for your salary for that or a contract for that

So again, it really depends on what field you are in and if you are willing to become

that expert in one field. I think if you have this niche market, you have this specialization in one of those

that's always a plus, you know, always a plus because there's not too many people there

But if you are one of them where everybody's doing that, everybody's learning that, then

it's like it's competition. Again, it's supply and demand. So cloud, data, AI, machine learning, these are all in big demand right now

Okay, let's take another question. We'll take a couple of more questions

Yeah, sorry, you want to tell something about architecture? Please explain. Yeah, so one of my questions I'll take is how to become an architect

You want to become an architect really means here I'm talking about a software architect

Like how do you architect this new software system? That's what architects do

I think I've written an article on C Sharp Corner as well, detailed article on that

So to become an architect, first of all, it's funny. Some of the guys who are just starting a job and they are one year experience

They're like, I want to become a software architect tomorrow. This is not how it works

One of the things is it takes time and experience is very important

If you become a software architect, experience is very important. It requires at least some experience

So the best way you can become an architect is obviously start reading the documentation, articles, books, watch video trainings

But with that also try to get involved in projects where you are close to the architects who are building existing systems, right

try to be in the meetings where software architects are doing deciding okay what are the requirements

how do we architect the system how do we think I'm not sure everybody can just go and jump in

those meetings but try to find a project or a company where you're more involved in that or

you can even say ask your company hey do you mind if I sit and learn more about architecture

and I'm just going to be, you know, you got to be proactive about it

And then that's probably the way to do it. If you don't get a chance in your own company or in the team

maybe you want to start your own system. You want to start building your own, let's say, website

and see how you're going to architect, where you're going to store the data, what database you're going to choose, what APIs you're going to build

what kind of local cache you're going to use, how the UI look like

are there different components so you can also do that now you say you i can i don't have time for

do that i don't have my company not going to offer me that maybe you want to work with a couple of

people in a group and then when you work on a group with the with the project yourself then you end up

doing everything right which includes architecture includes requirements good writing code includes

testing include deployment and maintenance so that's another way to do that but again try to

learn first what architects do try to get involved with them try to ask questions and then read

read books on it you don't even need to buy anything these days you can just go online and

search as your architectural best practice guidelines and you can start reading so hopefully

that helps hey good to see you back here uh uh ledger uh yeah i think uh yeah i see good to see

you back here in the studio, I mean the show, live show. Thanks for joining, coming say

hi. Todd, what's this Todd say here? Can you, yep, can you click on this Todd here? Let's

put on the screen here. Yeah. Doing conversations to the cloud, conversions to the cloud. Come

in, do the conversion, move it to the next project or company, do this to contract or

company will pay bucks being here yeah of course i don't listen to my own advice i'm 30 year

yeah so it it's listen uh goal is really it's not about oh i'm full-time employee or i'm a

contractor or i'm in on my own company goal is really is that what you really wanted if you

you're happy with that job and all that and sometimes sometimes in life we make these easier

options they are you know there's security job security right you know you know it's okay i don't

need to you know it's flexible job gets your vacation gets your holidays still get paid sick

leaves and all that uh but if you start your own company there's a lot of challenges as well right

challenges are unless people don't realize biggest challenge you start your own company is that

uh nobody's paying you if you don't work you don't get paid you take vacation you don't get paid

if you're sick you get totally so it's like a lot of challenges until you really go ahead and

establish your own company and there's no guarantee that every year you're gonna get a growth there's

no guarantee that you're gonna have a stock options or you know retirement plan so it's a

it's it's challenging for both sides and you have to find the way what makes you most happy and

successful what drives you right for me for example i don't seem i i cannot work for a company i

I cannot work for anybody because I move fast. I like quick decisions and it frustrates me if things are taking time and the guys are not learning

So you have to find that your own space, what makes you happy

That's the end goal of life, right? And it's nothing wrong with being an employee or nothing wrong with starting your own company or nothing wrong with doing both

You have to find that what makes you happy. So with that said, anybody coming in Simon to say hi

If not, then we can just be done with this show. All right. So nobody else joining us behind the scene today

No worries. What we can do is now time is running out one last minute

So I want to kind of remind everybody that this is summertime here in the US and I'm sure some bunch of other places as well

this month and some next month it's going to be slow because of travel, vacations, holidays

and so on and so forth so stay tuned for next week

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