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Em and I don't see eye to eye on Islam. It's time we woke up
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It's time we stopped paying lip service to Islam and Islamic art. I mean, we draw on the Greeks, the Romans, but Islam is part of who we are too
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The veil is evil. You erase a face, you erase individuality. And nobody is making men erase their individuality
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You don't need to patronize me. You've been patronizing me this whole conversation. I think you can bear with being patronized just a bit
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You don't like organized religion, fine. You have a particular antipathy to the one you were born into, fine
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You maybe feel a little more strongly about it than most of us because of whatever, fine
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There is a result to believing that a book written about life in a specific society
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1,500 years ago is the word of God. You start wanting to recreate that society
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Isaac, the Islamic tiling tradition is a doorway to the most extraordinary freedom
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and which only comes from a kind of profound submission. In my case, of course, it's not submission to Islam, but to the formal language
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the pattern, the repetition, the quiet that this work requires of me
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It extraordinary Repetition Obliterating the ego You sound like a post minimalist The Islamic tradition been doing it for a thousand years
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Pardon me for thinking they may have a better handle on it
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It's time we woke up. It's time we stopped paying lip service to Islam and Islamic art
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We draw on the Greeks, the Romans, but Islam is part of who we are too
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God forbid anybody actually try and remind us of that. What's that like for you
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What? Security at airports. No, I mean, you hear stories. I wouldn't know
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I cut right to the chase. He volunteers himself. Walks right up to the agents and offers himself up
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What, to be searched? I know they're looking at me. So I figure why not make it easier for everyone involved
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I've never heard of anybody doing that before. On top of people being more and more afraid of folks who look like me
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we end up being resented, too. Those agents are working hard not to discriminate and then here's this guy who walks right up to them and calls them out on it
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It's pure, unmitigated, passive aggression. That's what my wife thinks. Maybe she's got a point
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I think it's kind of admirable, Amir. If everyone was so forthcoming, the world would be a very different place
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It's racial profiling. Honey, I know what it is. So the angel Gabriel shows up
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Angel Gabriel? Yeah, that's how Muslims believe the Quran came to humanity
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The angel Gabriel, supposedly, dictated it to Muhammad, word for word. Like Joseph Smith. Mormonism
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No, no, no. They say an angel named Marami came down in upstate New York and talked to Joseph Smith
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Maroni, honey, not Marami. You sure
