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That's one of the things I wanted to
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talk about today was just the fact that,
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>> you know, you're going into this last
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stretch of the season and before the
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month of January, you are talking about
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the Flyers like a potential playoff
0:12
team, a likely playoff team. And then
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January was just atrocious for this
0:16
team, just absolutely horrible. And now
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they're 61 points in 56 games played.
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They're eight points out of a wild card
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spot and eight points out of third in
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the Metro. So, they have a pretty big
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hill to climb. And it's looking very
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unlikely that the playoffs are likely.
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So if you're writing off the playoffs,
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which you're gonna find out in a So the
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trade deadline's the sixth. So you're
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about what, two weeks away from the
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trade deadline at this point. I you got
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to make a decision pretty quick. And I
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if I'm Danny Brriier, I if I get any
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sort of good order offer for Raasmus
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Risto Linan, you have to take it because
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what future does this guy in his early
0:54
30s have with this team by the time the
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Flyers are ready to be competitive
0:58
again? Risto is not going to be a part
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of that. He's also way too injuryprone
1:02
to rely upon. Like I think you have to
1:04
ship him out. And if you have to deal
1:06
with Noah Jules for the rest of the
1:08
year, so be it. I hate his guts, but I
1:10
don't hate his guts, but I don't enjoy
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watching him uh play.
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>> I forgot about Noah Jules.
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>> God damn it. He's right there, guys.
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>> He's slow. You might have missed him,
1:19
but he's right there.
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>> This week is going to be so make or
1:23
break. Like, I was looking it up on
1:24
Money Puck earlier. If the Flyers win in
1:27
regulation against the Capitals, their
1:28
playoff odds go from 10 to 15%. If they
1:32
lose in regulation, they go down to like
1:34
7 and a half. like this week against the
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Caps, uh, the Rangers and the Bruins,
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like they if you want to make a case to
1:42
Dana Breier, like we can put this
1:44
together, we can get it together and
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make the playoffs. If they lose out this
1:48
week, it's done. Like they've got no
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shot.
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>> If they did, like I am on Joe's side
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here. If they won three in a row coming
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out of the break, they actually would be
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like kind of like back into it. But if
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you're Brier Yeah. like Risto at this
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point, I don't really know what he
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serves. And the injury portion of him,
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like that that part of him where he just
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hasn't really been able to play a full
2:09
season. I think that just makes the
2:11
decision so much easier. Like if he was
2:13
healthy and he'd played, you know, 50
2:15
games up to this point, that's one
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thing, right? It might be a harder
2:18
decision to make because he does have
2:20
some usefulness and we saw it. Um if
2:22
he's playing well, especially on the
2:24
smaller ice, I think that definitely
2:26
helped helped his game.
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>> Um
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I like if he if he can trans transition,
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you know, into playing like that the
2:34
rest of the season, yeah, that'd be
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something you could think about keeping
2:37
around. But he's just too he's too
2:40
injuryprone to really really bet on him
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in any sort of future capacity. And
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yeah, like I I don't think trading Risto
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is is the same thing as doing the Shawn
2:53
Walker thing again. Um, but
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>> you can still compete if you trade cuz
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they're not as They played so much. They
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played so much without him already.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah. And you're also not in the
3:02
playoffs as they were on Shawn Walker.
3:04
Shawn Walker they were relying upon for
3:06
big time minutes and their most reliable
3:09
guy. Whereas Risto, he plays second,
3:11
third pair. He is tough to play against,
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but he's not a guy that they rely upon.
3:17
You know, Sanheim is who they rely upon.
3:19
York is who they rely rely upon.
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>> Just just for like a little bit of
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perspective here, the Flyers are 5'8 and
3:25
four since January 1st. Risto was only
3:28
back in the lineup like a week or two
3:30
before that. They have like a deeply
3:32
losing record with Risto Lining in the
3:33
lineup. They were in the top three in
3:35
the Metro without him. If anything, if
3:38
the Flyers get a really good offer for
3:40
Risto and they win these three coming
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out the break,
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>> you might be able to have your cake and
3:45
eat it too, right? Like just like
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>> the bronze medal. What's the bronze
3:49
medal if not second loser, right?
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>> Yes.
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>> Yeah. and you have these three games and
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then you go up to Toronto who you should
3:58
be able to beat. Then you host Utah. You
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got five games before
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>> Matthews is guaranteed two in that game.
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So you got to hope that [laughter] the
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Flyers score more than two.
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>> Whatever you got, you got five games
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there. If you get eight points, eight
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points out of that somehow seven points
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maybe. I don't think it's going to
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change their perspective on what they do
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for wristalan. Maybe it gives them just
4:20
more leverage in in trade talks. But I
4:23
want Rristtoellinan trade to look like
4:25
the Braden Goburn trade where you got
4:26
Raicho Gutis and a pick. Get a
4:29
defenseman back for Rristtoinan. You can
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replace him in the lineup and get a
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first or second round pick. Something
4:35
like that. Even if it's a bad contract,
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that's fine. Like I feel like that's
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what Brier might be looking for because
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he knows no one in the AHL is ready and
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I'd rather have them down there to
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develop.
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>> I like that a lot. I I'm into that kind
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of deal. And by the way, if you are
4:51
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4:54
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4:56
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5:05
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5:12
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for that today. But yeah, uh these are
5:27
some big games headed up for this team.
5:28
But I think regardless like you have to
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trade Bristol Light and you're never
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going to get more momentum than having
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this big international nationally
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broadcast showcase where the entire
5:38
hockey world was watching.
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>> Yeah. I think like if you don't do it
5:43
now, it's never going to happen. Um,
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>> like like Gilb said, I think you might
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even be able to take maybe a lesser
5:49
pick, maybe a second instead of a first,
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and then try and grab somebody who you
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might think has has some potential in
5:56
the league, maybe or or could at least
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fill in in the spot that that Risto uh
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leaves behind. Like, you know, there
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there are a couple different ways you
6:04
could go about it. Um, but I I think
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it's time. I just think that like
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Risto's never going to have more value
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to a playoff team than he does right
6:17
now. Um I think maybe maybe there were
6:20
some spurts last year where heading into
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the deadline that he he might have been
6:25
really appealing to teams, but but this
6:27
season I think this is this is it. I
6:30
don't think next year he'll have the
6:31
same value. I don't think, you know, the
6:33
year after that it'll it'll be anywhere
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near what it is right now. And that's
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even uh if he stays healthy, right,
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which is not a guarantee. So I I think
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you got to do it now. You got to pull
6:43
the trigger now even if it's not
6:44
>> the most maximized package coming back.
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But
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>> I mean it reminds me
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>> it's absolutely not a guarantee that
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he'll be healthy. That's for sure.
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[laughter]
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>> Yeah. It kind of reminds me of Scott
6:53
Lton. Like Danny Breier could have
6:55
traded him the deadline prior when Shawn
6:58
Walker got shipped out, but he didn't
7:00
because the demand wasn't there. His
7:01
price wasn't there. He waited until
7:04
Scott Lawn brought back a first in
7:06
Nikita Grabben, which is insanity, which
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is just crazy.
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Like this
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holding on to Risto to this deadline
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might be the next in that line. Like we
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have this price in our heads. You have
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to meet it. And nobody's met it until
7:22
now. And after this Olympic performance,
7:24
people are like, you know what? Yeah,
7:27
he's worth it. We'll pay it. Cap's going
7:29
up. a $5.1 million four five defenseman.
7:33
We can stomach that.
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>> Yeah. I mean, yeah, you can wait till
7:37
the off seasonason, but then you lose a
7:38
crack at the playoffs as one team does,
7:40
and you risk him getting hurt in the
7:42
final month of the year. So, this this
7:44
is prime time to solve still.
7:46
>> Yeah, exactly. Well, if you listen to
7:48
Anthony Demarco over at Daily Face Off,
7:50
there's half a dozen teams interested in
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Raasmus Risto line. And so, somebody out
7:55
there wants that playoff risoto. Danny
7:57
Brier, let's make a deal. I was looking
8:00
over the Oh, wow. How about that? Yeah,
8:02
I was looking over the roster and like
8:04
there's really not that many guys that
8:05
you would sell, per se. Like there's
8:07
guys you'll trade, right? Uh and I don't
8:10
want to trigger Gilbert over here and
8:12
mention Bobby Brink's name, but Bobby
8:13
Brink's a guy that comes up. Owen
8:15
Tippet's a guy that comes up, but if
8:17
you're talking about straight up selling
8:18
guys, like, yeah, we'd love to just dump
8:20
Haway off on a team because uh great guy
8:23
in the locker room, but he has not been
8:25
anywhere on the ice this year.
8:26
Deloreier. Yeah, great. He plays five
8:29
minutes and he's in the box for 10. So
8:31
cool. And Jules is again the slowest man
8:35
in the world, but who the hell wants
8:37
him? Who wants him? Carl.
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>> Was it you, Joe, that added Carl
8:42
Grundstrom to the sheet?
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>> Yes, our boy Carl.
8:45
>> Wait, wait, wait, wait. It's time for
8:47
Joe's big stretch.
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>> Wait, what? What? What about Carl?
8:52
What's the big stretch with Carl?
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>> Teams want him to trade for Carl Gstrom.
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Oh, he's a perfectly effective like 13th
8:59
forward on a playoff team probably. Like
9:01
if someone He scored eight goals this
9:04
year, didn't he?
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>> So are like 300 other people though.
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>> But he's an expiring UFA. I don't think
9:10
he'd bring back more than like a fourth
9:12
round pick. But you know, if
9:14
>> How mad would you be if Danny Brier
9:16
randomly in two years trades for Carl
9:18
Grundstrom as the 13th forward for a
9:21
playoff run?
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>> I wouldn't be happy. [laughter]
9:24
I would just be like, why why are we
9:26
doing that?
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>> I I will agree with Joe that it's one of
9:29
the only players that they could sell.
9:31
If you're saying sell, but I also agree
9:34
that any team trading for Carl
9:36
Grundstrom if the deadline is really
9:38
stupid,
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>> you could maybe trade him back to LA. He
9:41
he started his career there for a while.
9:43
Maybe maybe he wants to go back there.
9:45
But like
9:46
>> with FIA out too, they do need some
9:48
wingers coming up.
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