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Ryan Gilbert and Joe DeMarini discuss the Philadelphia Flyers' inconsistent last week of play, Trevor Zegras' tough stretch, Matvei Michkov showing signs of improvement, potential trade options, and more!
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[music] [music]
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[music] Hello and welcome to the Broad Street
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Hockey Podcast. I am your host, Ryan Gilbert. Joining me today is my co-host,
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Joe De Marini. Joe, how you enjoying this roller coaster we're on here with this uh Philadelphia Flyers season? Uh,
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can we get off yet? Is it over? We get a break at least. We get a break uh next
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starting next week. I think we've got one more full week after this. Crazy. Yeah. You know, I haven't been to an
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amusement park in quite some time. I'm worried in my my older age with my vertigo and whatnot. Uh, I might not like it. And, you know, I I'm not liking
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this roller coaster. Up and down. Up and down. Way too many downs. A very long down. A very steep decline. You got to
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got a quick back up on on the avalanche win. a huge win and then just down right
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again against the Islanders there. Um not even like a horrible game, just a
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just a boring that's a classic Islanders Flyers game. You get shut out by the
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VZNA Trophy favorite. Um shout out also shout out for the shout out to our uh
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friends at FanDuel. Uh at FanDuel they have Ilia Sroken at minus 110 to win the
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VZNA. Uh Andreas Fasilfki behind him plus 210. Then Logan Thompson plus 430.
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And everyone else after that is uh pretty much down there. Speaking of down there, the Flyers uh their odds to make
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the playoffs are now plus 230. Their odds to miss the playoffs are minus 290.
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So they're sinking right now, Joe. And uh I do want to just get into our predictions here off the top of the show
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for the past three games. Um we recorded with Jacob. Uh he joined us. He might join us later again. We'll see. We uh
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after the Vegas game at Utah. Uh I said 5-2 loss. You said 4-3 overtime loss. Uh
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Jacob said 3-2 overtime loss. Uh it was an overtime loss. They got a point. We we if you told us we had a point, it
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would have been happy about it, but it was not a happy result there. Uh, and then on Friday, I said 6-2. You said
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7-3. You got the score right. You just said you just had just had an opposite there. And, uh, Jacob said 5-2 loss. And
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then for the Islanders game, I forgot we were predicted this one. I thought maybe I would have uh I said 3-2 shootout win.
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Jacob said 4-3 shootout loss. You said 4-2 win. And the Flyers could not even
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get get one goal last night. That's the most disappointing thing. Like, you beat the Avalanche 7-3. I know it's Troken. I
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know they play a very structured defensive style, [sighs] but it was just a very disappointing night last night.
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And and the fans showed up. There were a lot more people there than I thought would be. Like tickets didn't get that cheap. Like it was it was uh respectable
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crowd there for the snowstorm. They ventured out into the the drifts, the tundra of South Philadelphia, and
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they were rewarded with just like the most disappointing and lackluster first game after a road trip you can
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imagine. Um, you know, I'm thinking this roller coaster allegory doesn't fit so
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well because when you're going down, it's the fun part of the roller coaster. It's the Not if you not if you don't like roller
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coasters. I guess that's true. I like roller coasters, but you know, um, no, I God.
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And they beat Vegas like they beat the Vegas Golden Knights in a tight game 2-1. Really like heavy playoff style
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hockey. They had a three-goal lead against the Utah Mammoth. blew that.
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Yeah. And then they blow out the avalanche in their barn. Uh Philadelphia owns
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Mackenzie Blackwood. Still true no matter which team he's playing for. And uh
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and then the Islanders, it's it's it's a bummer. It's a real drag because
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you look at the standings, they have I think it's 57 57 points in 51 games.
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They are tied with the Capitals who are not doing so well either. No. No. Um, Capitals suck, Devils suck,
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Flyers suck. Like the Penguins are in second. Yeah, the Blue Jackets are suddenly hot
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because they got that new coach bump from Rick Bonus. So, the Flyers get them tomorrow. Yeah, the bonus is going.
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The The what? The The bonus bus. The bonus bus. Bonus bus. Okay.
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No, thank you. [laughter] What a weird situation. They only sign him through the end of this season.
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I mean, he's he's pretty old. He was he was retired, so he came he was he was on a boat the day before he he was coaching
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his game. Uh the next I think he's 70. Yeah, I think he's 70 or 71 there. Uh but yeah, the Flyers last night, Monday
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night at home against the Islanders, coming home playing in the snowstorm or after the snowstorm, a chance to tie the
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Islanders in the standings with one fewer game played and they uh everyone
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put up an like their first period was strong. It was a strong first period. You get the power play, the power play
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looks great. that Mitchkov unit out there the full two minutes generating chances getting pucks back not exiting
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the zone too often getting good puck movement looking like they know what they're doing uh they get the penalty kill get a
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penalty kill then after that and then the power play they go to the other unit which
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I guess I understand what Takett's thinking but like the the Mishkov unit and MOV has been fantastic the past few
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games he's been looking much more confident um and What? Very early on in
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that uh power play, was it Tippet and uh was it Tippet and Dale? Brink and Dale.
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Chase the guy. Was it Park? Oh. Oh yeah. That left PJO.
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No, no, no. It was it was Dale. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Yeah. And then you know Sam
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Erison, you want to save there. you you can't blame him for giving up like two the two goals the few goals he gave up
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were like right in the slot like you look at the heat chart heat map on um natural static three right in between
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the dots center slot and then one you know from some top of the circle there that you don't necessarily love but like
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that just seemed like all right we we gave up a goal we had a good try you know we're we're gonna you know kind of pack it in now and that's really what it
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felt and because they they looked good they they weren't the worst team they They very even teams, very boring
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game. It's just the special teams and the goalending. It's it's the special teams and the goalending. That's what we
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hold keep harping on. And that's why they lost. They uh allowed a power play goal, allowed a short-hander goal, and
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got shut out by Sroken, who now leads the league or continues to lead the league with his sixth shut out there.
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it. I mean, the only exciting thing about last night's game, Mitchkov's ice time 16-10. Um, and he ended up on the
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line with D'vorak and uh TK in the third period because Zebras got bumped down to
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the Kates and Brink line. Um, so I don't know if that's going to be a
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permanent change. Maybe it was just like a I'm desperate. I got to do something to shake up the lines, get these guys
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going. But I'm I'm gonna be curious to see if they keep that uh configuration
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together for the next game. Well, today at practice, Charlie O'Connor of PLY, of course, Charlie,
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love Charlie. Uh he tweeted out, "Same forward lines. There were changes on the defensive pairs, though." You have not
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seen this yet. I saw that. You saw that? Okay. Yeah, it's uh it's
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Yeah. Street.com. Read and subscribe there. Uh you got Sanheim Risto top pair, York Dale second pair and then
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Sealer Noah Jolen the third pair uh Amandre the odd man out as the healthy
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scratch which I don't love. I I he's a better hockey player than Noah Jules but I'm hoping it's just one game. Let him
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reset a little bit. His underlying metrics have been a lot better than I thought cuz like watching him he is
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struggling. is fighting it a bit at times, but like yesterday especially. Yeah, he's still better than Noah Jolson
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like but Jules's bigger right-hand shot. I guess he wants to get him in the mix, but I hopefully Andre gets back in
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there. Also, didn't talk do this like a month ago. The Flyers had a backto-back and he scratched Emil Andre for one of the
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backto-back games to get Jules in. Um, yes, that was the uh Jules played on
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New Year's Eve, the second half of the back toback. Yeah. So, it's I'm not I'm a fan of that. You have seven, you have seven arguably NHL
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defenseman, cycle them in. You have 13, 14 NHL forwards, cycle them in, which I
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was happy to see halfway out of the lineup on Monday. Grabin Grundstrom, two
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good fourth line wingers, not loving Lane Peterson on on the fourth line center. Uh, I'd like to see an uh an
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improvement there, but I do want to go back to that first goal because I I I forgot about I'm watching the NHL uh
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edge goal visualizer. Yeah, the puck just comes in on Sam Ers. He he he plays it to the side and then it's just a
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one-on-one in front because Dale doesn't Dale and Brink both go after the the guy there. Um, we got plenty of people here
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in the chat saying bring Zamula back. Yeah, I I I said this I said this uh I said this. What which one did you think
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I was I was pulling up? The one one above that? Uh, no. I didn't know which one you were
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going to pull. I mean, they are going to Columbus. They could just pick him up on their back. Zamula revenge game. Zamu,
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I'm not sure what Zamula to score is going to be at FanDuel, but definitely definitely uh definitely check that out. Uh yeah, NM Stack saying Andre needs to
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sit for a game or two. He's still young. Yeah, don't mind that whatsoever. Uh I'd keep Tippet and this is uh Venita Singh
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here. I would keep Tippet and Barky with Coots, but move Ziggris to pivot between Teris Nect Moff. I would love that and
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drop DVO to center Kates and Brink. I would rather see McDonald than Jolen. I agree. Uh McDonald was called up for you
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know emergency purposes in case someone got hurt on the road trip. Um I would like to see you know Kates DVO Ziggress
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and Couttori at center. Put Couttori at at 4C. I'm not sure why Couttori is receiving so much hate recently. I know
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his contract's bad. I know he's the captain. I know he's not what he once was. Like he's not actively hurting the
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team. He go Oh, I was just going to say what options
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do they have? like you kind of just have to grin and bear this for another one or two years until a buyout would become
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palatable and in that time maybe he finds his game again. Like you you just don't know. But they cannot buy him out
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this summer. Um you'd get minimal cap savings and he'd be on the books for another like what eight years or
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something. Um and then you can't trade him because he's got an NMC and he's not scoring. So
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no team is going to want him at full price. It's like you really just don't have any choice but to keep him and hope
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it turns out better. Um I would also say move Kates to 4C just to but three Coots
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4C sure whatever it like we said last week that's fine whatever we said last week
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they don't have a first line. They have like three second lines and a third line. So like if you want to put it on paper that couture is the 3C but that's
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actually the fourth line like whatever. I don't care. Do what you got to do. Yeah. like like and yeah, Couttoriier
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his cap hits bad now 7.75 million in a next year it's not going to look as bad
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two years it'll keep looking better if he can get into that Jordan Stall role where he's playing third line center
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fourth line center and he has two competent wingers which the Flyers should be able to give him that's a good
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third or fourth line like that's perfectly fine it's just always people like yelling like oh strip to see Flyers
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got to do something it's like what do you want them to do like like I I want them to do something
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I I wanted them to trade for someone uh to replace Sam Harrison. I wrote that. I wrote Jordan Biddington. It might be a
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bad idea. You might not like the idea, but I wrote it. I I gave you an alternative option. I wrote up trading
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for Shane Wright as a possibility to get a middle six center in there. So, you can keep D'vorak at center. Get Wright
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in there. Get Kates and the Equatoria. You have four decent centers there. People didn't like it. People liked it.
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It's an alternative idea. What what I what what I can't stand with the negative people is that like, oh, the
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Flyers have to do something. This front office has to do something. It's like, "All right, show show us what you got. What do you
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got? Who Who do you want to trade? You want to trade Couttoriier? Who's taking Ctori? What are you going to back for him? Oh, I'll trade him for a bag of
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pucks." All right. No, you won't. He has a no move clause. He's not going to he's not going to do that. That's not an option. Like, you're just angry and
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you're yelling, and I always say this, it's so much easier to be negative
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because if if you're negative and the team sucks and it goes wrong, you're like, "Oh, I was right. Fantastic.
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Whatever." If you're negative and the team and you're wrong and the team is successful, they're like, "Oh, why are
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you focusing on on me being wrong? Why why can't you just enjoy enjoy being happy?" So, that's the that's just the easiest rage bait that people do. The
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these [ __ ] just idiot talking heads that don't know how to analyze the game are like, "Oh, something has to happen.
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Flyers have to do something. This front office is going in the wrong direction." It's like, no. Especially after one
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game. Like, we saw a great first half of the season. We saw 41 games. that were
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the best 41 games in the past few seasons for the Flyers. And like, yeah, it's been a bad past 10 games or
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whatever, but that doesn't change everything. Like, I wrote last week after the Utah game that one bad loss
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doesn't really change anything in the grand scheme of things. You can be upset about it. You can overreact to it.
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That's fine. But like completely changing your narrative on whatever you're doing or using one loss to push a
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narrative like, "Oh, the leaders aren't good or whatever." It's just dumb. It's It's just overreactive and it's people
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wanting to get engagement engagement bait on a social media site where they
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pay so they can get money for when people view their posts. All right, my rant's over, Joe. Sorry.
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I fully agree. That's okay. I I love it. I you rarely go on rants, so I love it
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when you get in the zone and just unload. It's fantastic. No, I mean, I was really pissed off about the Utah
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loss, too. It's not so much the loss itself, it's the way that they lost it. It was so disheartening to see them blow
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a three-goal lead, have a clear shot at an empty net, and biff it just to lose in overtime. Like
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the the fact that they lost in overtime and got a point. Cool. Like we said before that week, we were like, "Dog, if
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they get the point here, like that's a great that's a great opportunity. They got the point." It's the way that they
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like, you know, that meme of the guy walking into the rake and then it hits
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him in the face and then the guy who like skateboards the rake down a like stairwell and then still lands on it.
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It was that second image like they skateboarded this rake down the down the stair rail and they still hit themselves
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in the face. It's just that's why I was so upset. It's the way they lost that game, not the loss
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itself. Yeah. No, that that that was very if they had just lost if it was 5-4 overtime loss, back and forth game,
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that's fine. But you led three nothing. You led 4-2. The the lead Sanheim got walked on the game tying goal connecting
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at the turnover. Couttori is always going to get flack because he he doesn't score and he hasn't scored in so many
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games or whatever. But yeah, Hathaway Hathaway I I remember I was watching the game. I was like, "Oh,
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Haway has the puck. Empty net." Garner Hathaway. Second goal of the season. Here it comes. But no, no, he didn't
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shoot it there. It was uh it was quite quite awful there in Utah. But yeah, Colorado Colorado showed how good this
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team can be. It showed the true potential of when I say this team can win a playoff round. That was exactly
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why you had Sam Harrison coming up huge, huge in the first period. Could have easily been three nothing ABS after one.
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Then that snowballs from there after losing to Utah. So, credit to the Flyers for bouncing back. Credit to Sam Erison
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for for actually looking better than the numbers showed that game because I'm pretty sure that game I did post game
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with with Jacob and he had a negative goal save above expected that game and he did not deserve that. I think he was
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had like a 915 save percentage which which looked pretty good. Yeah, that was a special teams game that was
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goalending. That was five on five. was everything putting it together and then you had nothing on a Monday night. Like
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there was just nothing going on. The team was dead in front of him. Like I do you want to see him make a couple
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of those saves? Yeah. But also the team looked completely limp. Um also just to
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uh go back a bit, you giving alternatives and suggestions for the way the Flyers could dig themselves out of
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this. I would just like to say I feel redeemed about the Steuart Skinner propaganda that I've been spreading. He
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is like what is it? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, and one in his
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last eight games and rocking a like hold on one second hockey reference. You are a beautiful device. 934 save percentage.
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So if he makes it to free agency this summer, I'm telling you there's your there's your guy. if he makes it. I
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mean, Pittsburgh could just hold on to him, especially if they they make the playoffs with him. He could just hold on to it. You you've always been on this
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Duke Skinner bandwagon. I was like, "Yeah, you know, he's shown it in flashes. He needs good defense in front of him and uh he's he's doing he's doing
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all right." So, him in a tandem, easy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That would be one of the best tandemss the Flyers have have
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had in years. But yeah, against the Islanders, uh do you know how many high danger chances the Flyers had at five on
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five? Is it less than one? It's not less than one. uh four.
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They had five. They had two in the first period, none in the second, third, three in the third. Um which when you adjust
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it for the score 2.47. Um only allowed four. Like they didn't allow a ton of chances. It was just a very low event
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Flyers Islanders hockey game. Uh total shot attempts. Uh Flyers 43, Islanders
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39. Total shots on goal, Flyers 21, Islanders 23. Just tight checking,
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dumping chase. Not a lot going on. Islanders scoring short-handed power play power play again deflection goal
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and and that was that like once they go up three nothing you're not getting four passen so like it's just uh very
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depressing very depressing loss there uh especially after the uh Colorado win. Um
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also the Islanders had gotten blown out 5-0 in their last game against the Buffalo Sabers. Um they were missing somebody
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due to illness and also Caleum Richie was out of the game was out for that one. like, "All right, maybe they can
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get something get something going here. The Flyers can catch a team that's not hot right now." But no, no, they they uh
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it doesn't matter. But I think the one of the worrying things for the for this
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besides just last game is how Trevor Zaggress has been playing pretty much
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since the Anaheim game. I don't know if he's banged up. I don't know if he's a little bit fatigued because he hasn't
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played this many games in a row the past uh few seasons. Last year I think he
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played last year he played 57 games but he played early, got hurt and then came back. So 51 games this year, two years
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ago 31. Last time he played a full season was four years ago when he had that 65 points, his uh careerhigh there.
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So I don't know if he's hitting a wall. I don't know if we're finally seeing, you know, his linemates not
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doing that, but like he since the Anaheim game having down here five points in 10 games. uh seven points in
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13 games since dating back to New Year's Eve. Yeah. Uh Tak criticized him after the game
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last night. Um [clears throat] Zaggress probably isn't as good as the
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point per game player he was shown in the first half, but he's not this bad. Like where do you stand on on what's
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going on with Eager? Well, I do think it's everybody's like, "Danny, sign him now. Sign him now. Sign
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him now while he's in the middle of like a point per game season." Maybe Breier was right to just like hold off a bit
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and wait, see how the season plays itself out and then circle back in the summer. I think he is hitting a wall.
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The game the schedule right now is especially compact because of the Olympic break and I think I think a few
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of the Flyers are going to benefit from that break. Mikov, we've already talked about especially because he came into
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camp out of shape though he started looking real good. Imagine what two and a half three weeks off of hitting the gym could do for him. Zegris
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isn't going to the Olympics, so maybe that's a time for him to rest and recover. Um TK has finally
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turned it on somewhat, so and he's not going, so maybe he'll find a bit of a rest bit.
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I I think the players just need the Olympic break to get here so they can
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kind of reset themselves and not have to do it on the fly as they have what, six more games before the break now. Five,
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uh maybe five. Yeah, they got the backto-back and then the three home games against the uh Kings, Capitals,
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and Senators there. So, get get five, six points out of those five games and and move go into the
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break, you know, on the playoff bubble. See what happens after that. But yeah, the Olympic break will be huge. It might
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actually come be coming at a bad time for Mechov because he is starting to ramp things up. Maybe he'll get hot and then, you know, he'll have that break
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there. But I definitely think Zegris does need that break big time. He just
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he I mean he hasn't been playing that often. And another good thing for the Olympics with Dan Ladar is Lucas Doall
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has been fantastic for the Ducks recently. So um hopefully he will bear the starter for uh for for Chuckia there
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at the Olympics. U Lar has been practicing with the team so I'm hoping
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he can start one of these two games on the backtoback. Kolasov did sneak onto the ice at practice according to I think
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it was Jackie Smegel. what Jackie Spiegel said Kolaf uh snuck on there. So
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hopefully it's not Kosov. Hopefully Vidar is good to go, but you know hopefully Vidar is good to go for the
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long haul. If you have to sit him out for the back toback that's fine. Yeah. Uh one other thing on the Zegris
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uh stuff. I looked earlier since the Anaheim game. I think he has a 24%
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faceoff record which is really bad. But you know how many faceoffs that is though? like like what's the sample
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size? Oh, I I forget what it was. I'll pull it up. I'll put up right. Okay. Um and guess what he was doing today
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with Captain Sean Couturier. Yeah. Learning to do some faceoff work. Like they they were seen at practice today
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working on faceoffs. So, you know, I I wonder why that maybe there's more happening behind closed doors to help
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Ziggress with his faceoffs from Coots. But yeah, hey, it's become very clear that it's a real problem and could be a precursor to
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Ziggress doing some more center work until Ables returns because maybe Tak's sick of Peterson too and it's like,
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well, I guess now is the time I got to play Zagris at center. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, including that
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Anaheim game because he did go 0 for three in the Anaheim game. He is, uh, he's six for 28, 21.4%.
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Uh, 0 for8 in the Rangers game. He took eight faceoffs there. every other game taking one, taking two, taking three,
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but at 0 for eight in the Rangers game. Not sure what happened that game that he was taking so many. Oh, was that the
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game where they like put him, Mkov, and connecting together for a bit? Probably. Yeah, that could that could probably be
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it there. Uh yeah, Ziggress like I'm not worried about him long term, but he has
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definitely uh you know since that long point streak, he had nine points in his past 15 games now after he had what he
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had a uh nineame point streak with 11 points in that spirit. So, you know, but also he's with Christian D'vorak and
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Christian D'vorak is an average an average middle six center. So, like
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he he could have had I don't know. I'm not going off on that, but I do see a good question here in the chat from uh
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from JB regarding TK. If a team offered a guy with legit ones potential, but
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wanted either Connectne or Tippet, assuming KKNY would wave his no trade clause, who are you moving and who are
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you keeping? So, it's an interesting uh situation here. Kenkne 8.75 through
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2033. Tippet 6.2 through 2032. Tippet is
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also two years younger, but I still think Kenkne is the better all-around
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player. Uh there was a good article on browser.com last week about why the
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Flyers would regret trading Owen Tippet. Um but in this context, I would I would
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choose to move Tippet and keep TK. Yeah, I think so. I think you can get a
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guy like Tippet and I think Kknney is more heart and soul of the team type
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type sit type type thing and I mean Tippet's playing penalty kill now so he does play all situations but
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I don't know I'm going to keep I'm going to I'm going to keep banging the drum for TK too because I mean this
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is now two seasons ago but he was one of the best setup guys in the league behind like McDavid and Cuchov were the only
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two players who were better at getting primary shot assists, I think it was
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called. You can check that out over on um it's uh all three zones. I haven't
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looked at it recently, but Tippet is not a setup guy. He's he's he's gotten
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better at it. We've seen it now. He's starting to get better assists or better at like playmaking, but TK has way
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better like a way better playmaking ceiling, I would say. That's a really interesting debate actually interesting
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question there from JB because I I I don't know if I can give an answer right now and stand by it and not say I'll
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change it after thinking about it because like Tippet is two years younger two and a half million cheaper. I'm
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trying to think like in the construction of the team you have Mishkov you have Martone you have Forester as three of
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your top top two line winners. Do you want Tippet with them or do you want Connectney within them? And by the time
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the Flyers are ready to like actually compete, connect is 30, 31, and we don't
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know how he's gonna the aging curve. Uh Tippet's still kind of in his prime at
26:29
at 26. Yeah. Um I mean, everyone would easily just say trade Tippet. Too inconsistent. He
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too many games where he doesn't show up. But I mean, not lately. if he can keep this going for the rest of the year then then I
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would have to seriously consider trading connect over trading Tippet because like
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but we've seen we've also seen Kknne come and go at times. Um, yeah. Also, Tippet has more size, I
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believe. Throw throws the body around more or is doing faster as well, so he's not going to lose that
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as much. But I mean, I don't the team would easily trade Tippet over Connect. That's not a debate right now. Um,
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they would not just like this is the first year of Kknney's extension, right? Like you don't sign a guy to an extension and
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then ask him to wave to go somewhere else. It's like no the player asks you
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to trade him somewhere else and then gives you a list of places he would want to go and would be okay with waving his
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trade clause go. I know this is a hypothetical where TK would wave but you know I like
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if we're if we're basing it on reality then there's there's no way they'd trade tip it first but it would again depend
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on the 1C prospect like over on barstreet hockey.com there is an article about Shane Wright that really generated
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some takes. Uh, would you do tip it for right one for one?
27:53
That's something that's that's a trade there. There were questions about that in the in the comments. Like that's a
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trade that the Flyers could definitely regret. Like Shane Wright might just be
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a bust for the lack of a better term like or like a I mean he was the first
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consensus first overall by most rankings out there. When I look back on elite prospects, he had good numbers in
28:17
juniors as the captain. Um, but Seattle hasn't given him a really good chance to
28:23
develop as a player with the wingers that he had. They signed Chandler Stevenson to that god aful contract. Like, what were you
28:30
doing? Yeah. Um, I I I think I probably would trade trade tippet for Wright. I don't
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know if I would actually do it straight up, but if like right now, if I had to choose, I I think yes. I think you have to get
28:41
you have to get you have to get a middle six. You ha if you think Shane Wright can be a 2C, I I think I think you do it. Shane
28:49
Wright is a bit smaller than you want. I think he's six foot. I don't think he has too much muscle on him as of yet,
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but like I didn't actually look too deeply into his underlying metrics, which apparently aren't
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um too great. Um but yeah, Shane Wright, it's it's a very interesting case because if it was like Matty Beneers,
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absolutely. Give me give me give me t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t tip plus for Beneers. But like for right Wright this year 18 points in 51 games.
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Last year 44 points in 79 games like I I want him for like a two or a 3C if it's
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if it's like Brink plus or if they want Luchenko to get someone younger plus like or if there's like a three-way
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trade where you can give him a defenseman or something like that would be uh workable I think. But I I just
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think Shane Wright is the type of player that the Flyers should trade for. Like the a reclamation project, has the pedigree, can come to Philly like
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Ziggress did and kind of get his career going. I'm glad you mentioned Ziggress here because we were talking about this a
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little bit in the Slack about how um you know, Danny Breer might not make a big move until 2027 or 2028 just because
29:55
that's the way the markets are looking and the way things might fall. Cool. Don't rush into a big move just because
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you feel you have to if it's not the right thing to do. Yeah, but I also think that there could be a
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trade that just comes out of nowhere. Like the Zegris trade, he he was on the market. We all knew that they he
30:16
probably didn't have a future in Anaheim, but it wasn't until it was happening like Elliot Freriedman tweeted out that
30:22
morning hearing that Ziggress is going to Philadelphia. Like that was the first inkling that we had
30:28
any idea that Zegris was or that the Flyers were involved with a Zegris deal.
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Yeah. Um maybe the Kraken they have stated that
30:39
Wright is essentially available and what their expectations for a return would be. Maybe it doesn't come by the deadline,
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but this summer imagine some kind of similar tweet comes out from Freriedman. It's like hearing right to Philadelphia.
30:53
Boom. out of nowhere. Hearing Austin Matthews to Philadelphia out of nowhere. Like
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there are so many things happening behind the scenes. And the Miko Rantinon trade is another great example. I think
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they said that uh uh Colorado and Carolina had discussed a randon for nature's trade like the summer prior to
31:12
when it had actually happened, but it just didn't work out and then boom out of nowhere ranching in as a cane. So
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some of these trades like you know players are available but you don't get
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any linked teams or any returns until like it happens and sometimes it happens out of nowhere.
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Yeah. Yeah. Comment here in the chat right doesn't have nearly the track record that Ziggress had and you got Ziggris for a second in Baley.
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Yeah. But I also think Ziggress was much more on the out in Anaheim than Wright is in Seattle. Like Seattle
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is not he's not a distressed asset. Ziggress was a distressed asset. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Like the what's the
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Kraken lines right now? I think he's on the third line. Yeah. With Jaden Schwarz and Capo Kako. Kraken are two points out of they're no
31:57
they're tied for a playoff spot with one more game played than the Sharks and the Kings. Like they're right in it. So like
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they're they could just keep keep Shane Wright for the rest of the season then like you said do something
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in the summer. But like it it's just the type of player like that. I don't even particularly like Shane Wright as a
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player. It's just like he has the potential where the Kraken are willing to move him. Apparently they want a
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dynamic score which I don't think the Flyers have to give them besides Tippet and I don't know if I do that
32:26
one for one because besides the fact that he plays center there's no reason to do that one for
32:31
one. Yeah. Uh what about like uh O'Brien J O
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point uh 2.0 or even Berkeley Ken? Would you would you consider them? They're
32:41
younger and way less proven at the NHL level. But Berkeley Caden's playing NHL on the wing
32:47
now. I I don't think I would look to to move for him. I think if the Flyers make a move, it's not going to be for another
32:53
young center like Luchenko that needs another year or two to be ready. If they're going to make a move, it's
32:59
going to be like, "All right, this team has shown us that they can can stay in games, play playoff style hockey. Let's
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go get a young to mid20s center that can help right now and for the future in in
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a hockey trade type of way. Yeah. What if um what if the Kraken
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threw something else in? So, right plus for Tippet. It would really depend on what it is. I
33:25
feel like I feel like it would not be just one for one. Brier wouldn't do that just in case right as a bust and and
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Tippet goes off in Seattle and comes like a a first line winger and you know with Beneers up there but like I'm
33:37
looking at the Krakens um Kraken need need defense that a commenter brought up that uh Krakens
33:44
defense is pretty old so maybe you give them uh like a
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Andre because you don't want like a tip of an Andre for for Shane Wright and
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I don't No, no, no. I don't know. Cuz then like I I just don't think I don't I don't think Brier
34:01
would do a one for one. No. What if they uh included like Edward's
34:07
uh No, he's another winger. Edward Stall. Um they would have to just
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a a pick. They I mean they have two first round picks. They have their own in the Lightnings and then their own second round pick. Like I they're not
34:21
giving up Shane Wright plus for Tippet though. I I just don't think they are. I don't think Tippet's the type of player that they want. Well, especially because
34:28
Tippet has kind of been inconsistent and he's under contract for so long, which I
34:33
mean is a good contract when you look at the salary cap rising at 6.2 million. Sure. But um and I'm stack saying in the chat
34:41
here that Seattle doesn't have room for the tippet contract. Not without cap movement. Let me see if they have any
34:46
like they have any defensemen you could take off their hands um that have bad contracts. Um
34:53
Brandon Montour. Brandon Mour. He's good. They wouldn't trade Montto. Um maybe Ryan Lindren. Um for him that's
35:02
that's for three more years. Um yeah, I know it's it's I I don't think
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SE like Seattle and the Flyers don't make sense for a trade. Are you sure? Right now
35:12
the Kraken are desperate. They have so fumbled the bag as an expansion team.
35:18
They had that one year that they beat the ABS in the first round, which was weird, but I think they were shooting
35:23
22% as a team that season, which is insanity. Uh, and they've been kind of
35:29
dog water ever since. So, yeah, they you say, "Oh, I don't think they do
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right plus for Tippet." They might because they're desperate. Yeah. And you really have no idea what
35:39
the what the market is for Shane, right? Like like what teams are going to be interested? Like I feel like the Flyers
35:44
are one of the teams that that could be be in there. But yeah, like it's just
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someone someone like Shane Wright, someone like like Ryan Hartman in Minnesota I feel like could be a good
35:56
target. He's played center. Um I think he they're trying to clear him out for some
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cap space. He's at uh I think it's only like what four million uh four million one more year after this year. Uh Garen
36:10
does like Bobby Brink. You know, I don't want to trade Bobby Brink, but I feel like Brink for Hartman straight up could
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potentially get it done. Uh JB asking, "What would we give up for Walstead?"
36:21
They want a center for Walstead. I I don't think they're going to Yeah, they're like like same thing with Ascarov, like the Flyers just didn't
36:27
have what the team what the team wants there. I mean, I there was a comment um on your
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right article about how the Flyers didn't even get involved with the Quinn Hughes trade deal, and I'm like, that's
36:39
not at all what was reported. The flyers were told pretty early on in the process, you are not involved in this.
36:46
We are not going to make you you we're not going to trade them to you. So they bowed out and someone and the response
36:52
was, well that's a problem in itself. Why are they getting like the door shut in their face and I'm like what? Like
36:58
teams [laughter] can only trade if with you if they want to. Like it's teams don't teams don't have to trade with
37:03
other teams. Like they can they can pick where to go. But yeah. Yeah. The more we talk about it, the more I think about it. I I wouldn't do Tippet one for one
37:10
for Wright. I would probably need maybe right in like a first for Tippet. Like I feel like I feel like Tippet's
37:18
Flyers fans really undervalue Tippet. I feel like I I really do. Like looking at his five on five goals per 60. I think I
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brought it up last podcast with with with Jacob like his five onives goal per 60 are like top
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30, top 50 in the league over the past three seasons. And like that's been with the centers that the Flyers have for him
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to play with. So if they get someone even like Shane Wright or Ryan Hartman
37:41
or Austin Matthews like that that's that's something we're we're tipping work with.
37:46
Speaking of Austin Matthews, uh the all three zones data from the same year that I did the Travis Knee analysis. Guess
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who takes shots and sets up plays at about the same rate as Owen Tippet.
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You just said his name. It's Austin Matthews. they like Tippet fires the puck at a similar rate five on five
38:07
obviously like I feel like I don't need to stipulate that but just in case um in in the I think it was the 23 24
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season he was shooting at about the same level as Matthews but I think Matthews had a slight edge in primary shot
38:20
assists. Yeah. So, like um you're right, he is undervalued by Flyers fans because
38:28
he's so frustrating to watch on the regular, but uh he also just can't seem to get it
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together on the power play. And that's a big reason fans are so frustrated is that is that on is that on him though? Like
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I'm not blaming Tippet for not being able to score on the power play. I'm not. No. Yeah, I know. Like it could just be
38:44
the rest of the personnel, but Tippet's been here a few years. The power play has been bad for the entire time that
38:49
he's here. Um, you've subbed in new personnel throughout the years. You've changed up the units and he did get a
38:56
power play goal recently and I think he had a power play assist so maybe it's coming along. He had the power play goal knuckle puck
39:01
against the Lightning in that one game. Power play assist against the Avalanche I think maybe on that D'vorak goal. I
39:07
don't exactly remember which uh assist he had on that hat-tick game. Um,
39:13
difference between Matthews, Tippet and Matthews is Matthew scores, Tippet does for a game or three then disappears for
39:19
a few weeks. Listen to some Toronto media. Matthews absolutely disappears for games. Every goal scorer goes
39:24
through streaks. Like you can't just be like, "Oh, tip it tip it streaky." Like also, he's he's not right now. Like
39:31
since the beginning of December, he has kind of been reinventing his game. Yeah. Yeah. I I'm looking up. So since
39:38
the start of 2022, which was Owen Tippet's first year in Philadelphia, he
39:44
[snorts] has how many even strength goals? He has 76 even strength goals as does Travis
39:50
Kknney. That's more than Jonathan Maraso, Sam Reinhardt, Jared McCann, De Brinkat, Hints, Brady, Kachchuck, Stam,
39:59
Coast, Marchenko. Like he scores at five on five. The Flyers need to get a power play quarterback to help these guys
40:05
score on the power play here. Like it's it's Tippet. Tippet is a player that you
40:11
trade, then he goes to a team, scores 30 goals, and like damn, why why the Flyer why the Flyers traded? that that's
40:16
exactly what it is. Yeah, but uh JB did sum it up pretty well here in the in the chat. Uh there will be
40:23
better centers than right. Be patient, especially because during that waiting period, I want to see what tip it becomes. He's re reinventing himself.
40:29
Yeah. No, I I completely agree. There will be better centers than right available. But if the Flyers can get him
40:36
for say Bobby Brink and something else, I I think you do that just for the
40:42
positional change plus what Denver Barkley has shown. Denver Barky has been incredible uh in the NHL.
40:49
We were glazing Denver Barky in the slack earlier because uh his if you go to Hockey Viz and look up
40:54
Denver Barkley stats, his impact on the ice is already unreal. Yeah.
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Um I I can't wait to see what he's going to look like at the start of next season. I
41:05
think it's going to be quite a he could be the next Quaderoo is a joke that I made is a joke that I made like uh a
41:13
couple weeks ago when we were watching a hockey game. I'm like what if he's the next Jaru? He's not probably but
41:19
yeah that Bark Couttori tippet line 68.9% expected goal share. Um second in
41:26
the league behind only Brady Kachchuck, Tim Stutzla and Fabian Zetterland up
41:31
there in Ottawa which is 69%. So yeah, like get Barky and Tippet a center that can skate a little bit
41:37
with them and see what happens. Like people in the chat saying uh uh I can't wait to see what Tippet looks like with
41:43
Luchenko. Yeah, two speedsters on the line. I'd also like to see, you know, talking about Tippet and Connectney a
41:50
bit. Get Tippet back on that line with D'vorak and Zager. See if his his speed, his confidence right now can maybe maybe
41:56
get uh maybe get Zagris going. I'd love it. Uh, speaking of confidence and getting going, do you want to talk
42:03
about our boy, our our our young boy, Mad Mitchkov? Mad Mitchkov has absolutely been gaining
42:10
confidence recently. Of course, a three-point game in Colorado. Uh, two goals, one assists there. Uh, had five
42:18
shots in that game. Had four shots last night against the Islanders. Got moved up to the top line in the third period.
42:24
Played 16-10. Had seven shots on goal in Utah. I'm I was shocked he didn't get a point in
42:30
that game because he was all over the place and you know he's getting he got plenty of power play time last night as
42:36
well. So, you know, not a ton of points yet. Still just, you know, that three-point game, the one goal against
42:42
Pittsburgh. So, still only five points in the new year here, but like it's more about like watching the game
42:49
and seeing him and being how confident he is. Say the line. Say the line. He looks
42:55
better. He's He's visually better, Joe. He's visually better. Yeah. Um, yeah. No, it's it's it's been very
43:03
refreshing to see that he finally seems to have turned a corner. Um, and look,
43:10
there's a lot of debate about whether he should be on the right wing or the left wing. I don't think that long term it
43:16
matters that much. I I like who in three years are we going to care? Like, if he figures it out on the left side, great.
43:22
If he doesn't, who cares? He's going to be playing on the right wing. Like I don't I don't think it matters in the
43:28
long term, but like I think every game for me matters right now, especially when he's in a rut and he's clearly more
43:35
confident coming down the ice on the on the right side. And I know Tak says it doesn't matter which which wing he he lines up on that
43:41
that people, you know, go back and forth, but it absolutely matters. And like so if Mitzkov's entering the zone
43:48
on the right side as a left wing when you know when the Flyers you know get a
43:53
shot and then you know rebound whatever and leave the zone he has to think about all right let me get get back when I'm in the defensive zone on on the left
44:00
side like um I don't think it matters all that much but like he's clearly more
44:06
confident on one position like put him there like that that's that's all I'm saying and I don't know maybe I guess
44:12
Kknney has been better on the right side, but then you still have Connectne right side, you have Mishkov right side,
44:18
and you have Brink right side. I feel like that's a good one, two, three. Yeah, I'm into that. Um I mean, KKnne as
44:25
a veteran has outright said, I don't like playing the left wing. I like playing the right wing. Um
44:32
yeah, and didn't he he was like, I the responsibilities on the face off are weird. It takes some getting used to.
44:38
And I'm like, okay, TK, but you know, that was months ago. Maybe it is. Maybe it is. Yeah, he's
44:43
been they both been better on the right side. Um
44:48
I guess they just need him there with Kate's and Brink now cuz like I don't know who else I would want to put there.
44:53
I maybe Barky, but that's like a really small line then. I mean,
45:01
you know, you could call it a rat line, just a bunch of small dudes running around. Call it a rat line. Um, apparently the
45:07
Flyers were mentioned as like potential fit for Drew O' Connor from the Conucks
45:13
who uh Rick Tocket obviously knows he's a left winger so maybe he could go there
45:19
and then you move it around somehow else. But why would why why would you go for Drew
45:26
O' Conor? I like what's the what's the point? The the Flyers do need to trade for a
45:31
depth piece. I think I think and I'm hoping to write for this
45:36
week at some point. Um I think the Flyers need to trade for a depth piece
45:42
by the Olympic break. Either Whoa. a either a well this was before
45:47
Risto came back but assuming Risto will get hurt again at some point. You need to trade for a third either a third pair
45:54
of defenseman that can run the power play or a center that can either play 4C
46:01
or knock Kate or Couttori to 4C because Lane Peterson is not it great guy I'm
46:06
sure I don't know anything about him but like Lane Peterson just is just a guy out there.
46:12
We don't need depth forwards. Oh, I I completely agree that trading for a depth forward is not necessary. However,
46:19
the Flyers plan this season is to make the playoffs. You can disagree with that, you can agree with that, whatever.
46:25
And is it though? Yeah, it is. You play to win the game.
46:30
You don't play, just play it. But didn't like Jonesy say it'd be nice if we made the playoffs, but that's not
46:36
our goal. Like, they haven't said this isn't playoffs are bust. They're like, yeah, if we make the playoffs,
46:41
great. It means the team is doing really well and some guys are ahead of schedule. That's awesome. If we don't, we're not going to like we're not going
46:48
to hold it against them. Internally, their goal is playoffs. They can't say that externally because
46:53
they're like, "Oh, we want to make the playoffs this year." Because then if they don't, everyone's like, "Oh, it's it's a failure of season. Didn't make the
46:59
playoffs. They said they would make the playoffs. Why didn't they blah blah blah?" And also, you know, putting it out there externally might impact
47:07
[clears throat] potential trade discussions when like, "Oh, you try to make the playoffs. Let me try to get extra value out of you. So if Briier
47:14
wants this team to make the playoffs, which I think he does, they need to add a depth forward or a depth defenseman
47:21
above Noah Jules. I think defenseman is less pressing because we have seen Merches come up. We've seen Yining play
47:29
fine. We've seen other guys come up and play third pair. But I think you need someone
47:35
one more forward. Like there's not anyone in the AHL quite ready. Bumps hurt now. If Peterson's the best they
47:43
got, I don't want I love Tony Dick, but like he doesn't move the needle at all. Like get somebody that can win faceoffs,
47:49
kill penalties to take some responsibility off Couttoriier. Like just get somebody give this locker room
47:54
a vote of confidence going into the break. Give them that motivation to to, you know, hit the gym. You know, go
48:00
enjoy your time off, but hit the gym. Come back ready for the stretch run. Don't let them, you know, go into the
48:06
break be like, "Oh, what are we going to do? Are we gonna buy? Are we gonna sell?" Blah, blah, blah. Because they might do both, but make a good hockey
48:12
trade. Don't give up any future assets, but make a good hockey trade. Like Douggee Hamilton would have been
48:18
perfect, but he's on a eight game, nine game point streak now since getting scratched and
48:25
playing top power play because Luke Hugh's shoulder fell apart. So someone like that,
48:30
like a fantasy team. Yeah, I traded Douggee Hamilton. So, Whoops.
48:36
Yeah. Yeah. Um, but no, I What if you just waited out for Martone's college season to finish and
48:42
then But that that's the other thing is you're not trading for a forward that's going to block Martone. You're trading
48:48
You're trading for What are you saying? I I'm saying that like you just stick with who you got and then when Martone
48:55
gets here, it slots everyone down into a better fit. But then you're then you're
49:01
really gambling like, "Okay, can this team get to the playoffs on like the last day of the season
49:07
as opposed to trying to shore up now. Go get a a ideally a third line center
49:14
that can play for for 4C that can like Scott L. Maybe you trade
49:19
trade trade trade back a second round pick for Scott Lton. Um, but get somebody get somebody that can play 4C
49:26
that isn't going to be upset if they're out of the lineup when
49:31
even Abos comes back or when Marton's really get somebody that you can cycle in. Basically, if Grunstrom or Gbankin
49:38
could play center, someone like that. What about Nick Bug's dad? as someone as someone who writes about the blues, I
49:44
feel like he's got one year after this, so I don't know if that's No, I I don't I don't think that's
49:50
that's that's worth it. Um No, it's got to be a rental.
49:55
Yeah. I mean, or a younger guy that could
50:01
be a part of your boy. Your boy call him up. No, the Thomas.
50:07
Oh, Phil. Philip Thomasino. So, I I I don't know if he I think they only call him up if they need like a a middle six
50:13
winger, but um Okay. Yeah, because there's not a ton of free agent um centers here. Let me look at uh
50:21
points to sending yet. No, no one that I uh I I really love
50:27
here. No. Um, yeah, but I I I understand people in the chat saying you don't want rentals, whatever, but like but like
50:34
look like they traded a fourth round pick for Eric Johnson and sign him for another year. If they do something like
50:40
that, fine. Like that that's whatever. Like you're not trading not trading a first, you're not trading a second. May
50:45
maybe a third for the right player if if this team wins for the next six games or
50:51
something. But like this team, we've we've talked about it. They don't have the depth to sustain one
50:57
more key injury, one more even depth injury. Like Bobby Brink was out and this team, this team was lost. So like
51:03
you you want to get So so you you want to get just one more
51:08
one more piece that you know you can cycle in there with Grundstrom, with Gbankin, with Haway. Um
51:16
I also I also want to trade Haway. I I think he needs I think he needs to go. Yeah, it's time.
51:22
Um, no, it's it's time to like consider like what what could the Flyers do with
51:29
Garnet Hathaway? That that is a that is a potential buyout candidate this summer to be honest. Like if
51:36
I don't think they would they'd probably just trade him to find him a like better home. But yeah, I think I think teams would want
51:43
him to. I think I think Haway I could see Haway going to
51:48
a team like the Sharks. No, the Sharks just got Sherwood. Maybe not the Sharks, but someone maybe like a Seattle, maybe like
51:55
somewhere out west. He's been in the East for most of his career. I
52:01
No, Calgary. Oh, he was with Calgary. But like he hasn't been over there in a while. Let him go back over into the West. Piss
52:08
some people off over there. Everyone's tired of him in in the East. He's talking [ __ ] They're saying you have
52:13
one [ __ ] goal on the year. Like hit an empty net. like get him over in the west and
52:18
know trade him for like a like you don't even need to get anything back for him. It's just clear the way for Gbank and
52:24
clear the way for for for Grunch. What if we're going about this depth
52:29
center idea all wrong and instead of trading like a fourth or a fifth round pick, you trade Garnet Hathaway for like
52:36
a fourthline center. I'd love that. I'd absolutely love that. Yeah. Yeah. or or even Hathaway and in
52:43
the third for for Einstein like oh well okay let's not get carried away here well I what what I was thinking with
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Haway you know who would love Garn Hathaway who Bill Garren would absolutely love Garnet
52:56
Hathaway if you can somehow do like Haway and get Hartman back if you can do
53:02
like a Haway I guess Brink maybe as well or like
53:07
another future asset and get Hartman back that's that's big win. You really think Garren would trade for
53:13
Bobby Brink after he has been trying to ship Marco Rossy out the door for years?
53:19
Apparently, he really likes Brink, but no, he he would want Haway. I think they don't really have any big fourthline
53:24
attitude. I guess they have uh Marcus Felino, but like it's more about just getting Haway out of here. Like like or
53:32
as long as you're cycling in Gbankin and Grund and they don't they don't sit for more than two games in a row, it's fine.
53:38
But like I think Hathaway is a guy where he came in, he helped
53:44
this team through the early stages of the rebuild and now he brewed a beer.
53:49
Yeah, he brewed a beer. You know, had some laughs, had some cries, and and now he he's got to go.
53:55
Yeah, it's it's just the way of things, you know, that's how things go. It's the circle of a fourth grinder life
54:02
there. The circle of the fourth line grinder life. Uh, oh boy. We'll also be free of
54:07
the Deloreier contract this summer, too. At least that's a Yeah, I am happy Delore hasn't been
54:14
playing. That's um that that's a thing. Uh why are we talking about bottom six centers? Um because they're not going to
54:20
trade for a top six center in in season. So, the options out there are going to
54:25
be uh making marginal improvements to the roster to get an extra point or two
54:31
um or three to uh to make the playoffs. Yeah, that's why they're going to do it. I you
54:36
don't have to agree with it, but that seems to be the plan that Briier and Jones are going to do. Either make
54:43
lowcost either rentals or guys that have one more year or make a hockey trade
54:49
where you're trading, you know, a winger for a center like a need for a need.
54:55
You're not you're not buying, you're not necessarily selling, you're just
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Yeah. you're rearranging. And they've done that like three times this season in the AHL. They traded a winger that
55:07
they didn't need for Christian Kyu. Samut Mumala for Christian Kyu. They traded Igor Zamula who had fallen out of
55:13
favor with the organization for Phil Thomas who like maybe he's a center,
55:19
maybe he's a winger, but he's going to be a good AHL player. Like they have found a way to just kind of we have a
55:25
need. We have a player in a position of surplus and we're able to swap swap
55:31
around so that we get the thing we need without giving up any like future assets
55:36
of superior value. It's shown he can do that at the AHL level.
55:42
We just got to see if he can do it at the NHL level. Yeah. Yeah. I I And I think like
55:48
deadlines spur activity and the the roster freeze at the Olympics. I think you're
55:54
excited. You're going to see you're going to see not no one's going to trade an Olympian just in case they get hurt
55:59
or whatever, but you're going to see some some depth guys being traded teams maneuvering their cap room so they can
56:05
have so like the these GMs. Yeah, they're going to watch the Olympics. They're going to watch games and whatnot. They're going to go around and
56:10
see their prospects, but they have three weeks of no NHL activity. They're going
56:16
to be looking all right, what can we do? What can we do? What cap room do we got? Who can we move? So, I feel like getting
56:22
ahead of that is going to be be smart for the Flyers. And it's probably going to be someone just out of nowhere. Like,
56:27
for all these trades the Flyers have made, yeah, we rarely hear anything about it in advance. So, probably just out of
56:33
nowhere. Well, we'll see. Flyers trade for this depth guy. Like, all right, why' they do that? But, okay. G give up
56:39
a fourth round pick. That's fine. Gave up a fourth round pick and uh Adam Yi. Oh, well.
56:44
Nice. Um, cool. All right. Should we do our predictions for
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um the next week? Next week. Now, I was just uh typing them out here at the Kings on Saturday. That is a uh
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12:30 start, I believe, bright and early at the far. So, 9:30 local start for the Kings. So, hopefully they can get
57:04
Oh, no. Oh, no. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. We have Well, I'm saying that the Kings local time over there for them,
57:09
but it's home. Oh, but before that, we we have the back toback here. We got at Columbus. Mhm. Uh let me let me type this out here if I
57:16
can I can type at CBJ on Wednesday. We got the K at uh Boston
57:22
on Thursday. Then we have the Kings on Saturday. And then we have the Capitals on Tuesday. I
57:29
imagine we will record before that, but we can do an early prediction for that. Anyway,
57:34
um at Columbus, Columbus has had a few days off after beating Tampa Bay. Um
57:41
have they played Columbus yet this season? I don't think that they have really weird, right?
57:47
Yeah. No, they play Columbus um twice in March and then Yeah, twice in March at
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home. This is the first and only visit to Columbus. Um
57:58
I'll go um they haven't played the Capitals yet either, have they?
58:05
I don't think so. Um no, they haven't. Uh, that's a that's a
58:11
weird um weird weird scheduling quirk there. Two teams. Yeah, I'm going with a 4-3 4-3 overtime
58:17
win in Columbus. Oo, okay. Um,
58:25
I think if if Larara is back and it's trending that way, especially after that
58:31
Harrison performance against the Islanders, um, I think it's going to be higher scoring
58:36
than that. I think it's going to be like a 64 loss. No, no, win. Win. They're going to
58:43
win. 6-4. All right. And at Boston, you can go first in this one.
58:50
H 3-2 overtime loss. Yeah, I got a uh I got a I got a 4-1
58:57
loss. They're just they're just not good on backtoback. So, they really need to get that win or at least a point in the
59:02
first half. If they can get a get a point out of the second half, that would be uh be fantastic there. Uh Saturday against the Kings,
59:11
the the last Saturday afternoon game at the Rangers was uh was not very good.
59:17
What the Kings? The Kings are so weird. I I would love to get Brent Clark out of LA somehow as he's being under
59:24
underutilized there. Uh yeah, hope. Yeah, if only um Kings
59:29
Kings play low event hockey. Flyers play low event hockey. I'm going 3-1 win
59:35
against the Kings. Oh, that sounds right. 4-2.
59:41
4-2 win. 4-2 win. Yeah. All right. And then what do you have for the Capitals on Tuesday?
59:51
Oh, Capitals have been real bad lately. Um
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43 over It's at home, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh 4-3 overtime. No, 4-3 shootout win.
1:00:06
4-3 shootout win. Okay. Um the Capitals do play the night before at home against
1:00:11
the Islanders. So that's a good schedule spot for the Flyers. Yeah. I'm going to go with a uh a 4-1 win for
1:00:19
the Flyers in that one. Back to back toback one goal one goals against wins there.
1:00:24
Yeah. Um so I have them going uh three and one. You have them going three on one.
1:00:29
Very, we're back. We're back to back to back to the positivity here, Joe. For some reason, we're back to our our uh our our normal our normal orange tinted
1:00:37
glasses. It's It's fun to have hope. It's fun to think that things could maybe one day be
1:00:43
good. Uh yeah, something has to go right, right? Like we have to have some sort of some something going on.
1:00:49
And to be fair, things were going very right for like half a season. So yeah, you know, there was some regression due.
1:00:55
We talked about it last week. While the Flyers didn't go on any major
1:01:00
losing streaks, they also didn't go on any major winning streaks. They were not a streaky team. Meanwhile, the Penguins
1:01:07
win like eight in a row, then they lose seven in a row, then they win another six in a row, then they lose five. Like,
1:01:12
they've they're in like the top three teams in the metro, but they haven't done it because of consistency. They
1:01:18
just happen to win a bunch of games in a row and then still somehow lose a bunch. It's it's it's weird. Yeah, it's it's
1:01:25
been streaky, but yeah, they they were going right for a while. Maybe they will go Shane Wright in the second half here
1:01:30
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1:02:07
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