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Daboll And Schoen Are Back - John Mara - Trust The Process 9 - 6 - 3 = 0 HOPE In 2025!
Jan 9, 2025
John Mara has spoken- We Are getting The Band Back Together! Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll are coming back as GM and HC of the NY Giants. John Mara could be the Dean at Greendale Community College or Regional Manager at Dunder Mifflin with his decision making prowess and business acumen!
Where do the Giants go from here? Will there be changes to the staff (DC, OC - how about a new PR Director after today's Mara press conference)? Where will the Giants go QB wise and how much pressure is on Schoen and Daboll.
UGH- Being a Giants fan is not easy and many times not rewarding!
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the New York Giants finished the 2024 season 3 and4 and now all Giants fans wait for owner John Meritt to decide the
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fates of GM Joe Shane and head coach Brian deall if every Instinct you have
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is wrong then the opposite would have to be right the New York Giants have announced that they are bringing back
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general manager Joe Shane so bold strategy cotton let's see if it pays off for
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him and the Giants have decided to bring back head coach Brian
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deall no God no God please no no
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no no
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all right well welcome back to inside BBI with John and Eric I'm John mcdev and with me as always senior editor of
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Big Blue Interactive Mr Eric Kennedy and Eric it's Black Friday unless you work for the New York Giants no no no
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no I'm no God God no God please no no
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no no no Jesus no oh my God no Sai was
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right s was right what are we gonna talk about John what do we what do we talk about today yeah so we'll keep we're
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gonna keep this one tight because we talked about it and I know people say don't worry about the time and and I agree we agree but this case we're going
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to keep it tight because we want to digest because I think that we didn't think John maror was actually going to
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do some sort of a press conference that kind of seemed haphazardly thrown together yeah which tells me this has
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been decided for a while maybe well maybe it hasn't but maybe he just woke
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up and said no I'm not doing it but this whole thing about I'm going to spend a couple of days and talk to everyone and
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see what their plan is moving forward that didn't happen that didn't that there's no way at 8:30 in the morning
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they you know they knew that way before 8:30 correct and then a couple hours later I thought that was it for the day
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so I updated the front page of the site with a brief statement and then he's like oh [ __ ] he's holding a informal
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kind of press conference in the club in the um the indoor practice facility so they didn't even have a stage or
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anything they just had him standing there answering questions um I think
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John F on the site had a very smart comment they wanted to get this out
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before all the other coaching news comes out cuz they want the other coaching news to overwhelm this and and sort of
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it's almost like a Friday media dump but it's happening on Monday they want to get this off the front page as fast as
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possible page you know I mean it makes sense because you know in some ways you're gonna have these other firings
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and then you've got the Jets situation which they know they're not going to keep the interim coach there's going to
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be all the questions about Aaron Rogers there's going to be the fact that they pretty much lost out a Mike Rabel because he's you can see he's ear marked
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for New England so any other stuff that comes out but it doesn't make sense from one perspective in that you put it out
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there in such a way and then talked about it further you can't take anything else but
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that this had been decided and I go back to what we talked about very early in the season where I said I kind of wonder
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if they were given assurances already because his press conferences were always like he's our best chance to win
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but then you keep showing why he's not so that doesn't make any sense unless you knew I have to play this guy until
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we we're out of it because of the guy above me and they've told me I'm coming back that's the only thing why wouldn't
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they tell everybody that weeks ago so and tell and that way you're also telling the players you're basically
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telling the players hey you're playing for your job with this coach right now so if they've already made their
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decision why would they not come out I don't know last month and say by the way they're coming back why would they even
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do that well because you know what I honestly think quite frankly they're just stupid I think
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they're stupid I think the Giants are St are run by stupid people I I I hate to say that because I love this team and
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it's like having a family member that is headed down a path that you can't
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prevent them from going down and there's nothing you can do about it and it's it breaks your heart I think they're I think John Mara didn't get this team
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because of some some thing he achieved in his life he inherit Ed this team this
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team was handed to him it was gift wrapped to him it was given to him and the structure that was in place that led
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to those two last two Super Bowls was in place before even though he was in charge was largely in place before he he
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was he he he he reaped the the rewards of what was there but since that time
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when he's had a full decade of basically being in charge he shows he's not up he's not up the snow we'll get into it
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but his press conference today was a disaster it makes no sense he contra icted himself repeatedly just and I want
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to say this to everyone out there before we get get into this John and I have not had a chance to go and digest everything
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that was said in the press conference we're only reacting to the the the highlights and we're going to have to
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because this press conference is so important to the future of this team we're going to have to do another show soon basically going almost answer by
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answer and breaking it down because the press conference was too important so there's a lot of things to say about
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this we're not going to hit them all the day because our our heads are spinning right now and the thing I I'll say this
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I think people need to really get away from the tanking thing his comments about tanking
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understand that he is an owner in the NFL he's part of the competition
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committee his comments about tanking here's why you should just totally ignore it what did he what what did he
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say first I met with Shane and dball Friday to get their plan for the future
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and then I thought about it over the weekend you can take the thought about it over the weekend right out of the equation they talked on Friday there is
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no doubt in my mind that Brian D made choices in that game that were in designed to not go out of your way to
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try to win you mean the four yard passes d w Del Robinson even the fake punt that
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everybody was like well why would he fake the punt if you look at that play there's a good possibility that play was
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going to get stuffed it just got lucky but it's not designed to get 15 20 30 yards it's just to maybe get the first
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down if they got stopped for a loss he would have been fine with that too I think they
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took there's just so many things that you saw that they were doing that it seemed unbelievably obvious that they
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were that's the soft tank you can't throw a game you can't have your quarterback go out there and just like
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oh I'm just G to have him intentionally throw interceptions no quarterback's going to do that because then they're going to tell people I was told to throw
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interceptions I didn't want to do that so but you can call the play that says this is designed to only get so many
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yards this is designed to do this I'm going to run it here I'm going to switch my guys out and and all of a sudden JOS
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audu A guard guess what he played guard for a couple of plays instead of left
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tackle where we've been throwing him out why would you switch him out in the middle of a game for no reason unless you wanted to constantly keep but why is
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Malik neighbor still in the game you know why here's why because they have
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built Malik neighbors up to be some kind of God and I I'm not putting them down so I'm not putting Malik down oh he
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burned the third stringers on the Eagles way you know but my thought on that is Brian debal has built him up to a point
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he's a dog he's this he even talked about forcing throws what was the question of why the tight end production
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is down he's like well why would I try to design place to throw to a tight end I gotta I'm designing place to get the
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ball to to neighbors you got to get we got to get Malik involved you've made Malik up here so his getting these stats
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to this rookie record thing who gives a [ __ ] Bowers was breaking the record already who cared you you bro so great
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you knocked off Naka who had already been knocked off by Bowers who cares that's what they did and I feel like
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that's an ego thing that that's you're you're putting a guy in a position though where you better hope he's happy
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next year because you've put him up here he even said I don't know if you saw this that he is looking at the
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quarterbacks that are out there to be prepared for when the Giants come to and ask his opinion on who should be the
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quarterback I don't have I I mean I kind of don't have a problem with that but like you said there's warning sign let's
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get back to the main story here and before we I go all
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um let's say mean to John here let's not you John Mar no no I know um I mean I
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think let's give him the first charitable um let's give him the benefit
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of the doubt a little bit up front before which I don't think's happening but say you you again like you said
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competition committee he can't come out and say yeah we were tanking he he can't say that publicly because then he's
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going to cause himself problems so in other words if you're going to if you don't think John Mara is an idiot and
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you think John Mara is got um he knows
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he knows what he's doing you would you would make the argument that he's saying things right now he doesn't believe in
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just because he's playing playing a role I don't think that's what's happening and I'll I'll get into why but you can
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make the argument that and John F also said this too John it kind of gets into that this a little bit John F said um
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and I thought about this if you look at next year's schedule it's a disaster for the Giants I it's like every great team
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in the league this year the Giants are playing next year it's like 14-2 15- one 14-2 the records of these teams or 14
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and three I should say the teams that they're playing and they're they're going to be bad next year so see I'll
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I'll do I'll do a Timeout on that one real quick I don't care about the schedule next year the reason I don't care is things are going to change so
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much in the off season and guys are going to get hurt in the playoffs that are going to affect somebody's team next year the I don't know some of the team
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play are going I well we'll disagree on that I think I think the Giants are going to win most four or five games
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next year and I'm not arguing about the number of wins but I think overreacting to the schedule of teams that we don't even know how they're going to look next
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year I wouldn't worry about that my point is this is sorry can dble and
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Shane survive and four five win season and if mer thinks if he's thinking ahead
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and I don't think he is but if he's thinking ahead he thinks I'm sacrificing these guys for another bad year and then
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I'm going to make my change the problem with that is he also came out and said we got to get a quarterback so and then
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Ryan dley he said two things to that though he said two things to that we have to get a quarterback it's up to
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them to decide if it's a rookie or a veteran but it's the same problem because you're going to stick the next regime and thankfully Brian Dunley
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brought that question up and he said he understood the question but he didn't
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basically didn't care and the question was if you bring in a new quarterback
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and be it a and he was talking about a draft pick but the same a free agent if you get a if you get a four-year Deal
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aund million quarterback $80 million quarterback you're stuck with them for two or three years okay if he does that
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then the next coach comes in here is stuck with that quarterback and you're going to some some coaches are going to
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say I don't want to any part of that I don't want to be stuck with this quarterback and you've started the same crap you did with Daniel Jones and
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thankfully Ryan brought that question up and asked that question but that's so
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Mara that's giving him the benefit of the doubt that Mara didn't Mara didn't um want to couldn't be honest or didn't
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want to be completely honest I don't think that's what happened the problem is with his presid conferences was and we can go go over major points but he
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contradicted himself it didn't make sense he said for example he
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said I still believe in Ryan dble the 2022 coach of the rgin coach of the year
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version of Brian dable but I don't think he should be calling plays anymore I
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don't think he picked the right defensive coordinator he basically he B I saw that yeah that would make two so
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both his hires were a mistake and this doesn't even get into the first offensive line coach and the other
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coaches they let go during the offseason but he and then with Shane same same
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type of thing I think we're do I'm I'm impressed with the process but I don't know if our roster is any better than it
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was when he got here so he I mean so so he arguing against himself I mean I
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don't know my biggest problem why I think he's an idiot he knew he he said I'm going to go talk to the press and he
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didn't think this through he didn't organize his thoughts and and come with a coherent statement he didn't come out
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there even the reporters if you watch the reporters on x/ Twitter I think and
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they're trying to again they're half in half in the um the back pocket of the
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Giants now they don't want to say anything bad about even they were like this doesn't make any sense so they even
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even the people that were trying to help him out the reporters were like this doesn't make any sense I have a
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feeling I have a feeling we were way more right about uh Mar's involvement in
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the Jones piece and in some ways I think the fact that D Ball's coming back the fact that
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Shane are coming coming back is his meas acceptance of the fact that that portion
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of the issue was his but I've said this over and over again this organizational
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arrogance gets in the way and I think his arrogance gets in the way he's bringing them back we believe in them we believe in him but if if all things are
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true then you were the problem so you can't have that so then he undermines it by going well but these things need to
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be fixed we talk to him this is got to be fixed and I don't think the roster's better well who the hell put the roster together so you are you're trying to
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give them credit because you know you meddled but you're also trying to make sure that you don't look bad that you
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made bad choices so you are saying well they screwed up in these areas it's it it's it's unbelievable it is literally
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like someone who has split personality literally battling with themselves in front of everybody saying two different
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things at the same time I we are at the office level of like management here I
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mean we he needs to write John Marin needs to write his own book it needs to be a sequel to somehow I manage part two
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that's the book that it needs to be to take right off from Michael Scott's book you know it's I don't even know what to
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say anymore about the day ball part of this because you know that I've I actually sided a little bit more with
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Shane and less with d ball I was fine with both of them going I don't like d ball period and
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this idea that he's some kind of quarterback Whisperer is all built off Josh Allen just Josh Allen so I'm not
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really sure now this is the worst feeling I think I've had period at the end of the season
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because I I can't even be mad anymore it's almost comical to watch these guys
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do what they do but I know if you don't so here's the thing if they don't get a
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back if they don't get a veteran and I think it has to be a veteran first and win X number of games so I'll throw that
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to you what do what do you think the X number is he's gonna be fired now you trended down so badly by the way Joe and
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I've said this over and over again Joe Shane's thing on the best predictor for future success is based on past results
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so you went nine six and three based on that Trend we will win no games last year next year so what number of
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game what number of games does he have to win you imagine you imagine I mean
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that's the pace you're on you went nine six three I'm like can I one up you on
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that what if what if we trade away next year's number one pick to move up maybe
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one or two picks right so we go from three to two or one by trading away our number one pick and next in next year's
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pick that we gave up is the very first pick in the draft and whoever has that selects our
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Manning first yeah I can kind of see this one coming
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look I don't think they're coming back next year I think this is prolonging the the this is what I said in the last episode that we just did on on when did
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we record on Friday Saturday whenever we record um the last episode I think I
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think that's just I said they were going to get fired today or they're going to get
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fired a year from now so I don't think there is a win I mean they make the playoffs sure but that's not happening
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there's no way you know the only thing that I can say to that is if if if John maror truly was and I still
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believe he was the factor in why they gave Jones the money and I don't necessarily think it's because he so
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badly wanted Jones I still believe it's because he was doing everything possible to make sure that they franchised
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Barkley if if that is the reason then I think you're probably looking at they're
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going to get the Daniel Jones treatment they're going to get at least another year on top of next year unless they
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come in under where they were this year but John said he wasn't a very patient man anymore and if he sits and they
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better turn this around quickly and we better get a quarterback so he's giving two different and so and Ryan I think it
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was Ryan again said if you if you bring
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in a new quarterback don't you have to give dble and Shane two more years and
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he said he wouldn't commit to that he said yeah I'm I'm not going to commit to that yeah it's weird because you you're
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literally making choices that are so reminiscent and you've said this you know kudos to you it's so reminiscent of
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Dan Reeves it's like you are we literally just doing a lame duck season is that what this is going to be but
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like you just said major decisions might be made very long-term affecting either
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positively because of what you brought in or negative or negatively what you gave away to get it's worse than Reeves
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because Reeves wasn't allowed because D because George Young was still there and was ran that ran that ship he wasn't
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going to allow Dan Reeves to to sabotage the future so we don't have that right
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now Shane Shane is gming for his job and and because the worst thing that can
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happen to um Shane or D at this point is you know they're going to get fired so they don't they're not thinking about
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the long-term interests of the New York Giants they're thinking of long long term interests of themselves at or or
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they or more specifically they're thinking of their short-term results exactly because they had to save their own neck at this
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point I still think there's a way around this if you do this right and it doesn't
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have to be draft the quarter a couple things though that worked against them that
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happened immediately this weekend and then news today first thing was Sam
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darnold looked like [ __ ] last night Sam darn looked like Sam darnold there's no reason the Vikings lost that game they
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they turned the ball over on Downs multiple times within the 10 yard line because Sam darnold couldn't throw a
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goddamn pass on into somebody's hands when he needed to and he he just he looked like Sam donnal of old that hurt
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on that team on that team on that team that hurts that hurts the Giants in two possibilities one he he's a free he's
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could be a free agent so you're like oh [ __ ] is that really the guy I want to bring in it's a bridge and give a lot of
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money to I don't know he would be a bridge so he'd be the guy he'd be a little well he be the guy but he would
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still technically be a bridge even if it's only two two years he's not going to be a four-year guy you just I don't
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know he he may his Camp may think that and someone may pay well that's true that's true and the Giants might be and
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the Giants are just Giants may do that that's the kind of stupid stupidity and then say next year there's some hot
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young coaching prospect that we want and they go I don't want Sam darnold if I'm
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coming to the Giant I'm not even going to interview with them I don't want that I don't want that's that's my fear and
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that's what's starting to that's what even the reporters like that that like Ryan are starting to pick up because
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we've been talking about that all along and other PE it's starting to Dawn on people because mea just basically came
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out and said said it we need to get a quarterback in here oh by the way we're going to bring these guys back but also
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they're not guaranteed to be here after next year and I'm not a patient guy this was a disastrous press conference from
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every angle because number one he said way too much it would have been better for him to come out and unfortunately
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you have the same first name as him so when I say John I'm to you what an [ __ ] so so um it would have been
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better for him to issue the statement that he did today and not say anything than to come out and say what he did he
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this was a rambling mess he is like scooter on BBI said this and I thought
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this was a brilliant comment if you're an afficianado of watching these TV
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shows on Restaurant Impossible or um Kitchen Nightmares or anything like that
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which my wife loves to cook and we and we watch these even my son likes to watch these watch these shows um he's
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he's the owner you can't when you watch those shows 90% of the time the Gordon
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ramies of the world can't fix the restaurant because the owner is the problem and I you know I'll be in there
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working on BBI or something like that and I'll hear it in the background and I'll say they're never going to fix this the owner's the problem and and you you
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look it up on the internet to see whatever happened to the restaurant and it almost always closed because it went
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back to the way it was and the owner John mea is the problem right now he's
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the guy that they go in and try Gordon Ramsey goes in and tries to fix and he won't listen and he he he doesn't
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realize he's the issue and that's where that's where we're at right now and I don't know how to get out of that
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because I mean you'd he'd have to sell the team or somebody would Tish or
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somebody in the else in the board has got to say this isn't working and so far
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you know that the organization doesn't appear to set up that way so that that's my issue with this is the owner's the
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issue and and how do you how do you how do you fix that he's sorry he's no he's no it's fine
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um bleep warning for those of you if you have children um John Mara is the [ __ ]
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version of of uh Jerry Jones Jerry Jones comes right out and blatantly says he was interviewed by
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Jane Slater he came right out and said I'm I bought this team to not be the
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owner of it I bought it to run it he goes I am the GM I'll be the GM next year John Mera is the [ __ ] version of
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that because he doesn't say that but everything he does says that's exactly what he and his brother and his freaking
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nephew are doing they run the team but they do it in the Shadows but it's
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always like I give people power but not really give them power and his I love his his favorite one is like um I'm just
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not happy I'm not happy with the way this is I don't want to be back here again next year and be like the what the
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what the [ __ ] are you holding on to 2011 2016 2022 those are the last three years
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that we've ever won anything 11's a Super Bowl I think that's what you're holding on to 16 you blew that up in 17
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when went kind of sideways and so you and I don't know if madoo would have been a good coach I can tell you that
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his his version of 17 is not that different than our version of 24 it is
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very similar it went sideways the only difference was nobody gave a [ __ ] when you finally sat Daniel Jones there
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wasn't a riot going why are you playing Gino Smith no one cared they were like finally but again there's just something
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really there's something really rotten here you know it's just and his his thing was pathetic
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today it was pathetic listen to this I had to bring this up while you were speaking so listen to this since Tom
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Coughlin won left I'm sorry the winning percentages of the coaches we've had so
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Ben McAdoo went 13 and 15 that was the that was the highlight so he had a a0
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46 uh winning percentage then we went went to Pat Shermer it was. 28 then
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judge3 and now we're at D 36 so since Coughlin
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won our coaches have won 13 games under madoo nine games Shermer only won nine
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games judge only won 10 games and in three years D Brian DAV was only won 18
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games so which nine of them were in the first season right Ray Hanley had a
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better record than these guys Dan Reeves blew these guys out of the
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water and those so I mean the it's it's it's not just a Brian dable problem it's
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not just the Joe Shane problem there's been a problem on this team now and they keep
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changing and I well again there's no sense of spending too much time on it we
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we we know we have a problem the big the big the thing that's coming out I think and people are get mad at me is is um
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he's not bright he's not a bright guy if he was a bright guy a bright guy does not come out and speak like that to the
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Press a smart man does not do that if you're going to come out and play the foil there if you're going to be the bad
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guy there you come up with more intelligent comments even to be the be the bad guy if you're going to be the
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guy that says to take the heat off your other guys you you do you don't do it do it that way and I'm reading these tweets
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and I'm like holy cow H then they kept getting worse and I'm like what is he
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doing this is after he was briefed remember we saw this he's a PR department that briefs him
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the pre it's almost like and I hate to do this oh boy I will say this next
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thing is me I am not speaking for Eric I'll just say that it's almost like it
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you let Pat hany write it on a Friday night when he's all pissed off he just wrote he just looked at the questions
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and then wrote the responses listen I I gotta be really careful I say this I
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deal with somebody from time to time who you can give a list of things right a
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list of things for one specific if I'm really trying to skirt a line here let's say you have one topic right
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it's one specific topic you give a list of reasons why you think this particular topic should go the way you have
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outlined it even if you don't believe in believe in it no no no no no I no no in this case you believe in it okay that
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person will then come back and look at each one of the line items and give you reasons why that line item that why they
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don't agree with it even but but they look at the the individual line items by themselves not in totality
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to the actual product thing or whatever oh God that gave it a little bit away the actual thing that you're actually
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talking about so they'll say one thing on light item one and light item five completely contradicts what they said in
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line item one that's what he did contradicting himself that was today it was like you looked at these things like
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individually like you hadn't even listened to your own self say your answers to the other stuff and you just
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answered the particular question for those The Cliff Notes version of this for those who didn't see it was
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John maror could not provide an explanation of why he was bringing these
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guys back he couldn't give them a re reason other than he felt it in his gut it was the right thing to do and then he
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later on the points that he made seemed to argue against bringing them back that's kind of what how today's press
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conference went so he would say things like I feel I feel in my gut that Brian
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DA's the right guy but I can't give you a reason why he is the right guy and then he went on to say
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what what Brian has done wrong not directly but indirectly so can't I I don't know if he should be calling the
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plays I don't know if he can hire the right guys oh the other Beauty thing the other the other beauty is no one and
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again we've said that this might be PR but I don't know because I because he doesn't seem to be very bright I never I
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will never ever ever ever accept tanking and if anyone tries to do that I will
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fire them immediately I think he I think he has to say that he's on the competition I hope that's what he was doing John but I
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don't know he he dumb enough to actually believe that I I do I agree with you that I think he's dumb enough to believe
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it I don't believe though that that's why he's saying it it it was so obvious
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yesterday of what was though well I mean I know I I kind of agree I kept going back and forth I kept saying maybe
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they're trying to lose this game but then I said but then why are they do why
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is this guy but I'll say this you don't have to try to lose a game you remember
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remember there was a game early in the season and I said Daniel Jones isn't the reason we lost he's just the reason we
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didn't win right right and people got really mad at me like oh no they're two different things I don't think D ball purposely
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did things to lose he just didn't try very hard to win the things were just like H you you called it but you kind of
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know that that's probably not going to work and if you're right he knew he was coming back before the game and I think
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you you nailed it on why talk to them on Friday right why talk to them on Friday
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if you're gonna just so you can think about it all weekend right wouldn't the last game and I know you said you're
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idiotic if you do but but I would want to at least look at the last game because if they went out there and
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players are just freaking walking away not paying attention not even trying guys are just looking like [ __ ] then I'm
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going you know what even though I was GNA bring them back they they I can't
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have this [ __ ] on the sidelines so you would still wait why would you decide on Friday but I think it was already
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decided before Friday I think it could be now if the Colts game if the Colts game is the reason why then then I don't
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give a [ __ ] what we do next year I hope we lose every game I got an email just a few minutes ago before we got on from
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somebody saying I don't know if the ass hats know what the hell they're talking about
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because you had a couple guys on your site that said D was gone and Shane was coming back and he said unless something
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changed like the Colts thing changed their opinion then they didn't know what they're talking about and it could be
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right I mean the the the two guys that said that they might their sources might be wrong but I I've always said from the
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beginning again they're not getting their information directly from John Mara so they're hearing from somebody
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who heard from somebody blah blah blah did you see did you did you see somebody on the site earlier today
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um's going on I probably didn't the handle I want to say and I'm the handle
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was like DD no maybe underscore Mass I didn't see it he basically said I was
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told this Summer that Shane and dble are probably
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safe and that mea played a role in The Jones thing that's what he said I was told and that's what you and I have
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wondered from the beginning you and I have wondered that about from the beginning we don't know it makes sense
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you know again we could we could debate stupid ass thing over and over again but you can hide money in a quarterback
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contract far more than you can hide it in a running back contract and a running back like saquon Barkley is not gonna take [ __ ] years that he knows you're
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not really gonna stick with right but you tank the season too it's not just the money the money is important but more but emotionally and talent-wise you
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tank the season by bringing back an awful quarterback right but but I'm not talking about but I'm talking about in
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22 because they all this stems from the off season of 22 right and I think
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that's when it happened I think Shane and you can tell by Shane's conversations you can tell by Shane's demeanor you could tell by what Shane
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has told people not only within the Giants walls but the conversation that he had with Frank Gore when they were at
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a pro day and he was talking to gore basically telling him all the wear and tear Barkley had even at Penn State so
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you can tell Shane's mindset all along is I don't want to pay a running back a ton of money and by the way that was the
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mindset of most gmss Ross the league so that's and I I don't think they believed I don't think he based on what we saw in
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Hard Knocks even as much as they tried to cover it he didn't believe in Daniel Jones oh no he no that's the thing so
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where I was going with that is I still go back to it and I can't prove it and I know it's stupid to keep bringing it up but I think ultimately gun to their
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head mea basically was like okay I obviously Jones we won you can win with
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him I want Barkley you've got one franchise tag to use who you going to use it on I want it I don't want to lose
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Barkley Shane's not going to give Barkley the contract that he wanted so they FR they give Jones that ludicrous
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contract because you can you basically can cap it at two we talked about it constantly this is a probably a two-year
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deal I said in the summer that I'm like he's gone next year regardless and you were like well not not really I go no I
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can't of think he is even at a halfway decent season I don't they said too much about him to want to keep him it became
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unbelievably obvious during the season they didn't really want him and the second they could finally get off him
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and obviously that clearance came from above that said you can bench him well we saw in the Hard Knocks clip not for
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the Giants Hard Knocks in the other clip him standing on the sidelines anding it must be nice not having to look trying
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to get a new quarterback so some there's a huge disconnect here something
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something happened the Genesis and people out there who are listening to the show are probably going why did John
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and Eric keep talking about the 2020 two offseason because it's the root of
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everything it's the root the started this snowball and this descent and
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whoever's responsible for this they shouldn't be be retained now some of the
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ass hats have said too doesn't mean they're right could be wrong I don't
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know but they've said that Shane and D were on board with bringing bringing Jones yeah and if they were again that's
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another reason why they should have been let go but like you you're saying it's stinks it smells funny it smells like
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ownership involvement and um so the guy that
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emailed me said um well these the these these ass hats are probably wrong we
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shouldn't be listening to them to anymore I responded to him I said I said even the reporters like Dan Doug and
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Dugan I'm not already sure how to pronounce the last name Dugan um um picked up a change in the vibe
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after the Colts game so whether that's again he's picking up something that's not there or he's actually picking up
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something that he that that is real the Colt the reason I brought this up is when you mentioned your Colton did is
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Mara dumb enough to think that the Colts game changed everything and I don't know
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we're we're way worse trouble than we think we are because if they're basing like you said the Colts didn't show up
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that day no so and and and if we were really trying to win yesterday that's
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another nail in do D's coffin so say they weren't trying to tank yesterday say they were were trying to win we
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couldn't even beat the the backups on the Eagles and before and I I keep
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seeing this it's driving me nuts well our back our starters aren't really playing either because we have so many injuries no we got Brian Burns Out There
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we got Tibido out there we got neighbors out there we got illuminor out there we got a bunch of people out there the the
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Eagles satad everybody and they got guys who have never caught touchdown passes
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in their career catching touchdown passes against it I was so funny watching the and his the first catch
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this guy ever had is a touchdown pass against the Giants you know so we make everybody famous it's you you almost
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wonder if the Colts game was a bigger deal within management
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of the Giants in that we have to win a home game do not you need to you need to
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win a home game you lose a home game I can't bring you back period we got to at least win a home one home game I still
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think the agreement was already there I think the way the Jones thing happened
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and then ultimately Jones getting his release by going to mea that wasn't Shane that went to maror
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and said listen I think we should just release him we keeping him on the roster is a bad it's a bad look that was Jones
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Went to went to mea himself and said I'd like to be released that tells me that
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Mara and Jones thing was kind of over day ball and Shane the whole time I it
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seems pretty obvious now although I'm you know you're you're sort of I'm extrapolating from what I've seen right
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going and I'm kind of piecing it together in my own head maybe it's confirmation bias for me I don't know
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but it just seems obvious at this point that that mea played a big role in The Jones Thing Once the Jones cord was cut
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it wasn't just he we benched him normally the Giants would just bench the guy like other just bench them and they
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keep them until the end of the year they just don't they like don't even bother coming in it's fine because you don't want to just throw them to another team
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what if he plays well in that season for some reason what if he got into a game and made you look like [ __ ] normally you just hold him till the end of the year
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and just go whatever they didn't that was all Mars and you know from the heart
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I'm releasing them boom there's something about that now the day ball part of coming back so I'm
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going to ask you this because we we wanted to keep this Tight cuz we we really want to digest the rest of it and yeah we do it's too important today's
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press conference was way too important we should go Point by point the three main questions that were out there were do you bring back Shane and dball do you
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bring back one only one of the two or do both of them have to go do you think
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that it came down to pretty much I know we're giving me a lot of credit but it was a fine line it's
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either both go or both stay do you think that's where he ultimately came down to deciding I either got to get rid of both
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of them or I got to keep both of them I don't know I I don't I don't I don't know what's going on in their head there
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are people a lot of people on the website that said if you're going to keep one you should keep both and let them sink or swim together I kind of I
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kind of and he may be doing that that might be that might be part of it um the
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why I'm confused John is this is he didn't provide an explanation today he was asked basically kind of why are you
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bringing them back and he couldn't come he couldn't even come up with a BS answer and then he seemed to be arguing
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against himself so I don't I can't 's nothing for me to interpret there I I don't see yeah that's why the the press
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conference to me was was a mess look it kind of gets back to again the analogy
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of scooter did about the you know um Restaurant Impossible thing but also kind of what my wife said um when on um
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Friday I said she was in the kitchen and I yelled they may bring they said they
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may bring them both back and she came in here and she said and she doesn't spend a lot of time thinking about the GI she
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doesn't give she doesn't care because it's painful it's like again with my kids it's it's comical at this point to
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them not they know how important it is to me but it's but she said [Music]
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he he um doesn't run the team like a business she said he doesn't run it like
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a business he runs it like it's a bunch of friends and she said there's no consequence for him
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because he's guaranteed his wealth so he has this you know because of the now she
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wasn't saying TV contract this is me he he has his share of the TV contract he's guaranteed an income here even if people
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don't show up in the stands even if he doesn't sell the jerseys he's got his share of the TV thanks to his father
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he's got his share of the TV contract so there are no negative consequences for
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running his operation poorly that will hurt him personally other than his pride
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so there's no no nothing in his bank account he won't lose he wealth he won't lose he won't lose power influence or
41:26
whatever so he was handed this team he treat he doesn't treat it like a business he treats it and he's got a
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bunch of people that he he treats it like like like friends and family and there's something to be said when you
41:38
were in a in in a company that they treat you with respect and like that but You' still got to run a business you
41:45
can't run or you go or you go out of business he's in he's in a business now that basically can't go out of business
41:51
so there's no ramifications there's no consequences for bad behavior and I don't know how to get out of that the
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only thing I can think is we've got a luck into a coach and we've got a luck into a quarterback at this point to get
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us out of this mess because there is going to be no Pete Rosell that comes in and saves the day for us and and and
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says because I said to my wife also this week I said and I think I've said this to you before it is not good for the NFL
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to have bad football teams in New York we are the number one market in the country even on even that the
42:27
Thanksgiving Day ratings were through the roof with Dallas having a crappy year and us being crappy for a decade it
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is not good for the NFL for the Giants to be bad not this long and and and but
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I I hope the NFL recognizes that because this this is this is a terrible
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situation um because if the the how if
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if we go start the season next year and we lose the first three games next year
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the state stum the stadium is going to be empty in October next year it's going to get
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worse the planes will be flying in October someone mentioned someone
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mentioned they wonder if the planes had a could have backfired an an opposite effect yeah like you're not gonna tell
43:13
me what to do yeah don't tell me um there's a huge difference between the
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giant entity and the Giants the football team
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the entity is worth billions of dollars it's going to make money next year
43:29
because all your psls it's going to make money on the seats because it doesn't matter if they're Giants fans or somebody else right right and so if you
43:37
look at it from that standpoint this idea that fans seem to think that we control the way we used to don't show up
43:42
and that'll tell them it's not the case other other teams fans will buy the tickets out it's been years even when
43:48
the Giants were really good I hated I hated when the Cowboys would come to town would beot freaking Moose Johnson
43:55
would get the ball every now and then and you'd hear a moose chant I'm like what the hell but this is giant stadium
44:01
for God's sakes so that part of it doesn't affect anything what you hope would have start to affect is the fact
44:07
that you're looking like a buffoon like you personally are looking like a
44:12
buffoon you look comical at this point and you're one of the faces of the NFL
44:18
when they have conversations about rules that should be changed they interview John Mara he's one of the guys that's
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part of that deal he's one of the the upper echelons of of owner probably because of the
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market and you're starting to look you're you're Jerry Jones Dan snid uh
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Limp Biscuit limp no I don't want to say that you the you're the [ __ ] version of
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Dan if SNY and Jones had a kid you're it you meddle when you shouldn't you say
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you're not meddling and you're actually meddling when you say you're not meddling you act like everything is
44:55
about being we do things the Giants way but the Giants way is lose and lose comically over the last 10 years we're
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going to be that we're going to be the SN Commander red Redskins football team
45:09
now now that the Washington's got new ownership and they got a quarterback and they're going to be winning we're at the bottom of the NFC east and we're going
45:16
to be the one everyone says they're a joke organization we're going to be St Louis Cardinals of the old NFC East
45:23
we're GNA be the team that the team that everybody gets fat on and and and the only thing that saves us from it being
45:30
way worse is that he's not involved in any kind of like controversy you know
45:37
there's not going to be some illegitimate kid coming out of nowhere going here my dad or you've got a string of you know strippers and blow that
45:44
there they can relate to you that's what we need that so someone can force them off the board we need an LT for God's
45:50
sakes Jesus what happened no but in all seriousness about like today and I and we're going to break it down later
45:56
because I I need look through what he yeah we need to look through there was a lot I mean even his comments on saquan were cringe
46:02
today so dumb for but again see that's what right there that's my buddy saquan
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that tells me that tells me that the goddamn Jones thing all came about
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because mea did not want saquan Barkley to leave he doesn't run it like a business
46:20
he does no Barkley became his like you know his kid he's he's so nice he's so
46:25
popular he's so in injured and we suck and we shouldn't have drafted a running back at number two so now we're at three
46:32
and we'll keep this tight we're now at three so we're going to have a lot to talk about there but the other I mentioned earlier there were a couple things that happened that that worked
46:38
against us first one was the Sam darnold thing the second thing is the news now that DeShaun Watson's injury might
46:44
affect him well into next year oh the two teams drafting in front of us need quarterbacks they're going to draft
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quarterback Cleveland I didn't think would I thought they would probably get like a second third round guy because the amount of money they've got tied up
46:55
with Watson is long as he can play you're kind of stuck with him so you hope to build up more of it while you
47:01
wait for one more year before you can really get out of this contract even though they changed it it only lessened
47:06
the hit in terms of the cap not necessarily the hit that they got to pay him you can't they're not going to dump
47:12
him that being said if he can't play You're now you probably are going
47:18
quarterback at two so tennesses the Wild Card are they the are they going to want
47:25
and I don't know if they're keeping supposedly really high on Ward didn't some didn't that come out today that that seems to be the Sanders to me is a
47:32
huge stretch but this is the worst case scenario to me is save those two teams in the front of us all right first of
47:38
all the it's so giant to begin screw this up that in a two again this can all
47:44
change but it what appears the narrative is this in a two quarterback draft we're picking three I it's just it's just so
47:51
giant it's just all because we beat the Colts all right so now say say one of
47:57
those two teams doesn't like Sanders and it's not crazy about Ward
48:03
and say it's say say it's like Cleveland and they said we don't want anything but we'll give up we'll give up the number
48:09
one pick to the Giants but you got to give us our number one next year the Giants take
48:15
Sanders and he bombs and he he he bombs the way that Sai has explained why he's
48:20
going to bomb but he I should backtrack Sai
48:26
doesn't I think he's a first round pick he thinks he's a second round pick he thinks he's more a marketing creation say he's he's he's not terrible but he's
48:33
not he's not even B Knicks let's say that right right and Cleveland next year
48:39
finds out they're drafting Archie Manning because they have our number one pick and we've got the worst record in the NFL that's what I'm afraid of right
48:47
now is they're going to give up the farm for like Sanders and Sanders isn't going
48:52
to be that good so I'm okay and this is the the thing that we said okay I'm okay
48:58
taking a risk on a quarterback with this year's number one if you're not completely 100% convinced on him and how
49:04
can you be no one ever really knows how quarterbacks are going to be but I'm a little I'm more than a little bit wary
49:10
of giving rid getting rid of a top five pick next year in a quarterback in a draft that's much better at quarterback
49:17
and so I've had these arguments on the site with other posters saying you got to draft your quarterback now we can't
49:23
wait the next year this is [ __ ] this is what we've been going through before yeah but the quarterback's got to be
49:28
there and when I ask them what would you do if if these other quarterbacks are gone what would you do like like go
49:34
turps is out there now saying I wouldn't draft um the pen State quarterback in the F well then who are you going to
49:40
draft that the other guys are going to go Go I mean I mean are you going to take milro at that place at three then
49:47
or you going to trade down a little bit and try to take him but what then someone's going to trade in front of us and take him at that point so that's the
49:54
problem is I understand I've been pound the table for a quarterback all along but there's also you don't force the
50:00
pick at the same time so so some people say well you got to keep forcing the pick until you get it right but yeah but
50:08
yes and no I understand that argument but you can't be stupid about it at the same time you can't be like anyone you
50:14
can't just take anybody so what I'm really worried about now is and again I I'm not saying Archie
50:20
Manning is guaranteed to be all that you know Jerry Jones has come out I think and said he's he he wants Archie at all
50:27
costs um I don't know if that's true somebody mentioned that to me I haven't seen that yet I don't know if You' seen anything I haven't seen that but um not
50:34
this year but you know in a future year but but say he is going to be that good
50:40
why I would be more tempted in that scenario if you really don't think you're going to be able to get one of
50:45
the two quarterbacks this year or you're not crazy about them somebody posted just now saying maybe the giant should
50:51
think about dealing so they can accumulate more picks next year to trade up and get that guy that they want next
50:59
year be it Manning or somebody else who's nus Meer or someone else is going to be in that draft and think longterm
51:05
and build this out don't force the pick so that's my wor my worry right now is
51:10
now you got a desperate regime doing going to do desperate things that's my
51:16
concern yeah I mean and we're going to talk about those things in the in future shows for sure we're going to break that
51:21
down as we go the next big step is is the staff what's going to happen there but I but I want to stick to this for
51:26
just one second no no no no I'm going to stick with this I want to stick with this I've already said it multiple times
51:31
in other areas so I'm going to say it again um I I was on board with Ward you know that I said that way back when we
51:38
did the from the beginning you liked Ward um I'm assuming he's gonna be gone if we don't move up the guy I want at
51:46
this point in time I I I want Abdul Carter if you're going to change this
51:51
team I think one you got to get a veteran quarterback so you're not going to like the names I'm going to throw out there I
51:57
you know obviously there's Carson Wentz I mentioned that the other day and that was brought up by other people that he's he didn't look great yesterday though so
52:03
I don't think he did himself any favors against the Broncos there Jimmy Garoppolo on the other hand looked
52:09
decent he's another name you're going to want to keep an eye on he has ties to New England he has ties to when day ball
52:15
was at New England that's a possibility Kurt Cousins is going to be available somebody is going to be a there is he
52:22
cooked maybe maybe he needed a little bit more time off that Achilles I don't think he's great but you need we just
52:27
need a guy who can function if he can function enough just to get by while maybe a third round quarterback develops
52:34
and then maybe we worry about a first- round quarterback in 26 great they have to win um there's a couple others I
52:40
think Matthew Stafford is still out there I don't know if he'd want to come to the east coast but I don't think the Rams are going to go very far in the
52:46
playoffs this year they they might but I don't think so but they gotta start looking ahead and that's another
52:53
possibility it gets a little weird from there I don't to pay darnold that's a lot of money that you're probably going to have to give a guy who's I don't know
53:01
that he's any better I just know he has a really good coach and he's great weapons what do you do when you put them
53:06
on the Giants I don't know if D Ball's a great coach so I'm a little worried about that so those are the kind of guys I think you're gonna have to get one of
53:12
those guys jamus Winston's not the guy because he turns the ball over way too much and he's not going to be the guy
53:19
you want a young guy learning from so it's got to be somebody that they can feel comfortable with and then one of
53:25
the other names is Jones I don't like M Jones but I also think he's a guy who could probably get by with a lot more
53:32
Talent if you can hide his deficiencies for a year so those are some names that we need to keep an eye on well one of
53:38
the things we have to keep in the back of our mind and people used to rail against this because they said it's not
53:44
true but I think the Giants are going to have to play pay a premium for both
53:50
coaches and free agents because the instability here because the because
53:57
anyone who's got two brain cells connected is going to say Brian dble and
54:02
Joe Shane are on thin ice and may not survive after this year right do I want
54:08
to go to the team like that if I'm a quarterback if I'm Stafford do I want to
54:13
hook my my do I want to hook my um self to dable I I don't think I would I I
54:19
don't think I would if you got if he's got a number if he's on the trade market and they're looking to deal with him um
54:26
they of course some of this he won't have a say in if if the Giants actually make a trade but some of these things like the free agents and and again like
54:33
if we fire Shane Bowen why would any hot defensive
54:39
coordinator want to come here when they he he knows he might be fired next year Lou Amaro just got fired by I saw that
54:45
but why would he want to come here because he has a thing for the Giants number one number two they'll pay him more and you just got fired with the
54:51
Bengals you're not going to be a hot coordinator maybe maybe I don't know any other any other name to
54:57
Bowen was the third our third pick we didn't get the top two guys we got last year worse this year I think
55:04
there are two Lou Amaro is one keep an eye on that Jared gerod Mayo is the other one after being fired in New
55:09
England coming in as the defensive coordinator they have some ties they
55:15
were in New England around the same time I would I would think he's a possibility but keep an eye on the other name is I
55:21
I've mentioned him already multiple times he just got fired by Cleveland Ken dorsy has his tie that makes a lot that
55:27
yeah but he's he's been fired a couple of times well but again you know he got he he got ousted out of Buffalo yeah and
55:34
they kind of blamed him for what I thought wasn't really his fault I mean Josh Allen was injured that year that
55:41
they ultimately fired dorsy he injured his shoulder against the Jets and he was throwing a lot of like you know just you
55:47
know wish and a prayer you know Chuck and duck kind of throws down the field in that season they give Joe Barry a lot
55:54
of credit since then but I mean Allen's healthy he's still Allen he did a lot though with d ball and dorsy I think
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dorsy ends up coming to the Giants I'm going to miss that we're not going to be able to see Brian Dava whip out his
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iPhone and go oh look at these stats we yeah if you get amarill you go look
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he was 2 that was a bad looking hindsight now boy we got Shane Bowen we we don't
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know if Shane Bowen's gone though people are speculating that they might be gone but oh this was the whole thing's just a
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we should prob notice would we notice if he was gone I mean if you walked out with no defensive coordinator I think we
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could have gotten the same kind of stats that we did with a defensive coordinator yeah but the offensive stats are worse
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so the defensive was like I think I just put them up they're like 20 we were like 23d in offensive yards something like
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24th in offensive yards 21 in points but we were 30th in off I mean defense I'm sorry we were 30th in offense and 31st
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in offensive points so again why are we bringing back dble again I mean man we
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we we must have had we must have had a hell of a practice which is where our defense
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and our offense were both looking good because they both suck process must be so good because the
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way this team is built is is good where the owner can't say I don't know I don't believe I'm not sure the off the
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roster's been better real real quick because we we want to end this one we want to keep it quick what is the process that you think
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they're talking I don't know I don't know what is the process that's so damn good we got to keep this process
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whatever it is is it is it the beautiful new you know video board you got in the conference room I don't know the process
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that and he said that this is the thing he said well we had a heck of a 2024 draft we again you can't judge it that
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close but you're but the 2023 draft looks like dog [ __ ] right now and the 2022 draft doesn't look very good so
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again your batting your batting average isn't isn't really good right now so how do you how do cherry picking he's cherry
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picking how do you say it's really good when they were forced to play that
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that's another thing they were forced to play these nuben please tell me how many interceptions did nuben have yeah and
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and that was surprising because he was kind of a ball Hawk coming out of college I like I like Phillips you like
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Phillips but he was hurt a lot and he picked up a few penalties and he got burned a few like a rookie but he played
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a lot sure but I'm not sitting there going we're set at slot Corner Phillips is going to people he's cherry-picking
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at this point he doesn't sound smart John Mera could have come out and
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said very little today or he could come out with much more organized thoughts it
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might have been BS he might not have believed them Bo yeah but they would have made sense to some nothing made
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sense to anybody except the the the um the people who who W refuse to accept
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any negative thoughts that that today was a disaster for him and I don't know if you've seen the website
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today my picture on the website I haven't seen the picture yet no it's got Mar wearing a dunce cap you so he just
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he that was a disaster and there's no defense of it even the reporters thought it was it was bad I thought I thought
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kudos to some of them finally for basically saying this doesn't make any sense so they'll probably get back in
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line quickly or you know um but on that note we will cover this in more detail
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guys because there was so much to digest and it's really important we we got to figure out what we're going to do with the coaching staff we got to figure out
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what we're going to do with the quarterback we got to figure out what we're going to do um with the with with
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the draft and free agency coming up but um we're going to be rolling all back
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with the same same staff so yeah um hang in here this is gonna get this is gonna
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get bumpy uh yeah the rolling it back I honestly beer we're need more I just I
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drink all my I don't normally drink at noon on a Monday guys Jesus um I you
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know overall I'll just say that uh I truly did not think they would roll it
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back with both of them no I know you didn't I I I thought after a I thought that maybe they made a deal but I
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thought that's just so ridiculous how can you do that and then we look so bad for 10 losses I'm like and D Bal to me
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just you said it so many times he looked like dead man Walkin he acted like it he didn't act like a guy who knew for sure
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he was coming back he acted depressed like oh my God like it after the game on
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on Sunday he he looked like he was he didn't I didn't get the strong impression that it was like he knew he
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was coming back but maybe I'm not good at this I don't know I don't know yeah I mean you at this point I got a feeling
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that maybe he didn't maybe he was the one piece in this this circle that
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didn't know that he was going to come back I think thought he he caught a strange game plan so oh I he yeah there
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was something it was so different than the week before even the week before people brought up some things that he
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did and maybe the Colts were just so bad that they it backfired on us but his comment after the that game
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about competent quarterback play I mean to drop off so you know so much from
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that game to this game against a team that's playing all backups so when you throw out this stuff about we play
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backups yeah but a lot of our backups were starting like they were already playing and starting the Eagles just
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wheeled out almost every backup they had they put out Dallas GD but he came off
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injured reserve they just want got looked pretty damn good against
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you wouldn't have known he missed the last eight weeks but but against us cat catch he's all he beat everybody put it
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put him against anybody he beat everybody and then the other guys were like oh he's never had a catch before he's never had a touchdown before ker
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mcke I started going well maybe he might be our quarterback next year he looks pretty good you know don't discount
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Kenny picket you never know I mean we're we're literally scraping the barrel but anyway on that note guys like
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