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igno is back from p eara w welcome back
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nice to see you again um we were just
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talking about uh what to talk about
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today because I mean your webinar there
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one in two weeks time I see um 28th the
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next one we we are doing I mean
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unfortunately we had to change it
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because of the timetable on our Diaries
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Pedra had to fly over to Poland a lot of
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interest on buying property in Spain oh
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yes and he's doing some seminars in
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Poland uh he's doing and again he's he's
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doing twice in Poland with different
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different companies that there have
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interest wow yeah and um so that's why I
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had to cancel the regular 15 days
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webinar but yes we are doing next one
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we're doing the one for 720 it's just
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basically reminder and questions and
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answer that's important people now
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because some people just say you know
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they come to the office and they think
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they have to do it end up saying no you
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don't have to do it you know right don't
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don't need to do it it doesn't need
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updating sometimes no no no but just to
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to give a give basically a summary for
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them for those who were never resident
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in Spain and they started last year
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becoming resident this year from the 1
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of January to the 31st of December they
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have to launch the uh 720 form as long
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as they have more than 50,000 EUR in in
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a bank account joint or in their name
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assets shares or private pensions that
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they could take again for 50,000 that's
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block number two and block number three
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if they ever purchase a property for
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over 50,000 Euros uh these values have
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to be on the 31st of December so the
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exchange rate we do it for that and you
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will not have to update it at all unless
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you cancel any of these products or
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unless unless you increase yes on 20,000
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EUR any of these blocks I told you right
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so that's basically it okay now the
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fines as you know they're much less than
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in the old days which it was crazy the
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factor of the 720 yes that caused some
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confusion because they took it to the
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European court and people thought they
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canceled the whole thing but that's not
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the case it was just the the fin were
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lowered no the 720 has been has not been
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cancelled at all the thing is a self
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self declaration that you will need to
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report overseas assets abroad and um and
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then it is very important especially
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let's say you sold a property abroad now
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is a good time for you to update it
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because you sold it last year so now you
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need to give the real values in the 720
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and pretty much you will know how much
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will be the income tax you'll need to
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pay if ever so is very good for tax
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planning to for those who have canceled
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products now to arrange an appointment
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to discuss about that and do the tax
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planning because as you know April May
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and June is the time to do the income
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tax return yes so you get that ready for
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correct for filing correct that's what I
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do with clients you know I try to um do
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all the taxation planning already now so
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they're prepare for later okay this is I
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don't know if I introduced you properly
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there just in case anyone has hasn't uh
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heard it before um of course lawyers
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talking um sorts of Law and everything
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but I mean we're talking about financial
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stuff already but a whole range of stuff
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through the criminal law as well you
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find yourself in court with some uh Naro
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well sometimes how much of that comes up
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for you well coure cases we always half
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you know I mean there is certain things
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everything you try to sort out out of
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court but there is certain things that
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um you cannot avoid for example a fight
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between neighbors for example or just uh
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on on on crimes or traffic accidents or
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you know so you have a lot of Coe work
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as well family issues unfortunately as
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well I mean I always try to seek um and
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Achieve amicable agreements between when
4:14
when in divorce procedures but when that
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doesn't happen you need to end up going
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through the courts yeah and um easier
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said than done sometimes trying to get
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involved in that yeah yeah and um but
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now that the the very reason uh cool
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case uh I've been dealing with and we
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had a two hearings is about for those
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who apply for the ti pre- brexit but
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they did apply after brexit so they had
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requirements before the 31st of 2020 I
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believe it was 2020 or 2021 I just keep
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forgetting that time flies yeah 21 I
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think because yeah right well in January
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2021 is when it started um the ti
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process right yeah so so uh for those
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who had so let's say for those who spend
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time in Spain they had the padron they
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had the insurance if they don't have the
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insurance on that time it's not an issue
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because we are having a lot of court
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case in our favor and this is what I'm
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going to tell you about about the court
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case I have two this week about this is
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the health insurance yeah yeah the
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health insurance the administration
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still insist is as stubborn as you know
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as much as they can be that the date
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should be after um before the brexit
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which is not true because you need to
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prove your resident before the brexit
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right but by the application you could
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submit the health insurance after so
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question could I do it now the answer is
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yes you could still apply for your ti
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pre- brexit still nowadays right if you
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can prove that you if you could prove
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now what what do you need to prove you
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need to have the padron you need to have
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the health the health you could you
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could submit it on the application now
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you need to have uh the money in the
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bank so you could show
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that yeah so there is certain things
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that as long as you have
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them then um you could apply for that
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but if you're being so long you could do
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AO okay right so if You' been more than
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three years in Spain illegally or
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irregular in Spain already we could
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regularize that through a different Road
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okay that's called i' call it social
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ties Oro social I'm sure there are a few
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people doing that right is pretty much
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is like a non-lucrative from here but
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European okay even better you know
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because you don't need to renew until
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the 5 years and uh so this is my daily
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fight now well well not only that LE
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I've got two hearings I've got next
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Monday a hearing and I think the
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following Wednesday I have another
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hearing uh again about insurance yeah
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which is an odd thing because it's if
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you're putting in the application and
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you've got the health insurance there
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already it's and it's valid what
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difference what difference does it make
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if it you took it out before or not they
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they're so Square you know they say well
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you can play with everything but the
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insurance was not issue at the very
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beginning when you arrived to Spain okay
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where does it say that and and it's very
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clear that it doesn't yeah but it's
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clear I mean on the application you need
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to have insurance before you didn't have
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insurance but before I was not applying
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for a residency now I am applying for a
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residency and now I'm complying with all
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the requirements this is basically the
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what the judge is doing and and the good
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thing Moody is the judge in I will say
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now 95% of the cases that we deal with
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cost and I I may myself very clear to to
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to explain the judge how much damage
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they are doing these Administration with
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this stubborn thing because it's it's
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just they're spending money on us the
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suffering and the stress that you go one
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year or two years with other residency
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sometimes they make your life difficult
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going back on track and apply for it
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again um so so because because
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administrative procedures you know it's
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just because of administrative
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procedures um so you might end up
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winning and get things sorted but it's
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cost you along the way it cost it cost
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you always time and money and stress but
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unfortunately there is no option I me we
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have to do all this way through but
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there's no sort of case of you know
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you've done so many of these now that
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they've got precedence to look at it's
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depend yeah yeah yeah but they don't
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care you know what we do it depends it
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depends who you get on the day you know
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what we do every time now we apply then
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we attach copy of the sentences but you
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wouldn't believe sometimes they don't
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listen no you know and that's why I tell
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them off on the hearing I just tell off
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the the the lawyer of State basically
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saying how much time they make us
9:06
wasting here because that was provided
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the very first day in the old days I
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could understand nobody knew and we were
9:12
starting and okay but now you still
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don't want to do it properly what do you
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in here nothing no sure nothing anyway
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that's part of the administrative Court
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um Criminal Court is different yeah
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Criminal Court it depends whether he's a
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he's a major crime or or minimum minimum
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crime or what we call it like leev leev
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is we call it probably minor crime you
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you'll call it in in in the UK you'll
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say like minor crimes I guess so yeah or
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minor offenses yeah I mean you there are
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serious crimes serious offenses and and
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lowers offenses right uh minor minor
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offenses minor offenses and uh I had one
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which was um it was a denunciation from
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some people um against one of our
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clients we finally won obviously and
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they didn't even turn up the other party
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like the plenti didn't turn up because
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you know probably the whole case was
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Bluff or you know do you want to face it
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that was in Ali caner Court the other
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day and um yeah and we having another
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one recently here about uh claiming
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money back when you lend money you you
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today some Valentine's yeah yes so you
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will lend money to your um to your lady
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or to your to your couple basically and
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as as far as everything goes well is
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excellent the the the cople works well
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but later on when you break up you might
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say well I lend you this amount of money
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and say well no that was a gift right
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you see well this is basically the case
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that I'm dealing and in general the the
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doctorine here in Spain states that uh
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gifts unless you formally apply for and
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declare it as a gift like a donation
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gift okay they don't understand by
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itself is a gift so when you lend money
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you transfer money to somebody there is
11:05
always a presumption you could claim it
11:07
back right okay so that's important for
11:09
people when you know when you split up
11:12
and then you say well I let you uh
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50,000 for this project what about this
11:17
money and well that money could be
11:19
claimed it's not an easy one no sure
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because I'm sure you'll have to find all
11:23
kind of paperwork oh yeah if it's been a
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long time yeah so yeah is a big variety
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Moody here yeah I mean with the criminal
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stuff I mean without getting into
11:31
details but how how heavy does it get
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how heavy does it get you take on big
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criminal cases you defending normally
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normally well obviously you end up
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selecting your cases you see the ones
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that you really want to defend or not um
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but but yeah all that is uh economic and
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criminal economic uh like the fra cases
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and um the urbanistic cases as well we
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deal normally always from the accusation
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party right andless our clients I mean I
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need to believe in our cases you know
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and um and it's very important you have
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a good relationship with your clients um
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and then defending uh the cases that you
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believe in is is okay you know but is
12:18
more about what you choose you know some
12:19
people say I will only deal with these
12:21
kind of cases we do pretty much all
12:25
criminal but with our own with with
12:28
within our morals and and things you
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know so so certain things I wouldn't I
12:32
wouldn't take it on certain cases yeah I
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I saw um it was a picture just the other
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day you know when they have them
12:39
pictures on the park benches in in the
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US in the United States whether it's
12:42
real estate but there was a lawyer and
12:44
he said uh just because you did it
12:46
doesn't mean you're guilty call me where
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do you see that yeah probably no yeah it
12:51
was in it was in the United States
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somewhere right yeah well over there is
12:55
a everyone everyone has the right to a
12:57
fair trial to the friend yeah yeah
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that's correct and and and the
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Constitution allows you to if you're
13:05
being accused not necessarily to convict
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yourself guilty you know you need to
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have enough evidence but um yeah I have
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a big variety of cases um pretty much I
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I love interesting ones you know but it
13:19
is weird when you see some of these
13:21
cases and they I mean you can't say it
13:23
out loud but they obviously did it all
13:26
they're really heavy duty criminals and
13:28
they they got a and you think well how
13:29
can you defend well the thing sometimes
13:31
m is not only about defending the fact
13:34
that is already there and it is
13:37
obvious uh the mission of the lawyer
13:39
will be to minimize the penalty right
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yeah sure so sometimes it's very hard I
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mean you you know have your crystal ball
13:48
and you could transfer things but you
13:51
could work with the system and and and
13:54
just try to make the most out of it or
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so if depending on all the evidence you
14:03
could have a big variety of of penalties
14:05
so the crime for drinking or driving it
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goes from probably 3 months up to 18 or
14:12
24 months so so you've got a variety
14:16
depending on the evidence that you've
14:18
got on the table and you could defend
14:20
you could have a a better one or a worst
14:23
one see so so it's it's a lot of a lot
14:26
of work and negotiation with the public
14:29
prosecutor as well sure so they they
14:31
will allow you to do it so there's no
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real uh routine with you every day is
14:35
different and that makes it exciting
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right every day is different and uh and
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yes um we're having a lot of investors
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now coming and that's another road as
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well so but since we are already 10
14:48
lawyers in the firm and then we are
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we're 20 and then 10 par legal so we we
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could cover a lot of things you know we
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could cover a lot of cases and um but
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yes um actually I have an interesting
15:04
one sometimes mudy you wouldn't believe
15:06
things H when when the day is not your
15:08
day is is I have these people I think
15:12
there was a movie that I don't know in
15:14
English word what was the movie but um
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but uh is the typical day you did
15:20
nothing wrong and everything is against
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you yeah I have those days yeah right
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well that these days on in benedon these
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people people very nice people you know
15:30
you know people that coming from the UK
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in September or it was the end of
15:35
September for a holidays for drinks uh
15:38
come in and out right it was in and out
15:41
well they they end up I'll tell you
15:43
pretty much the story they came um to
15:47
Benny dor obviously it was hot for them
15:50
so they were wish with swims and you
15:52
knowers and everything you know the
15:54
typical uh tourist right yeah yeah I can
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picture them now and for some reason
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obviously they had a few more than a few
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yeah one Euro a pine probably and they
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they some way or the other he he told me
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that um they stole his mobile phone
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right right so I mean it could ever
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happen to all of us you know it could
16:15
ever happen um and and you know nowadays
16:19
if you lose your mobile is you're you're
16:21
in trouble you you know yeah a is a big
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issue right so he panick and he said
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what I'm going to do now now with a
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friend with the other friend he told
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somebody stole my my phone they tried to
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find it don't ask me what a he used
16:37
there is one to find a phone right one
16:40
way or the other he found the phone
16:42
where it was so he went and scanned
16:45
trying to see where the guy was and
16:47
trying to look at the guy oh the person
16:49
had taking it right right now you you
16:52
now you how do you approach these guys
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say sorry do you have my my iPhone do
16:57
you have my well somewh I mean sometimes
17:00
you could be more aggressive or less but
17:02
but here we go so this guy probably just
17:06
got panic and and say no whatever and
17:09
and these other that had a few said well
17:12
you have it well you know he evidence
17:14
again who's true I mean you don't know
17:18
couldve it so they start um pushing and
17:23
and running right so see how these guy
17:26
were so smart the other guy that the the
17:29
rubber let's call it this way that he
17:31
put the whole story the other way around
17:34
he just say no he's chasing he's chasing
17:36
so that ring the police now these people
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didn't know how to ring the police you
17:40
know they're British they come for two
17:42
days three days they know nothing how do
17:44
they know you know and and this guy's an
17:46
expert already of stealing and um so he
17:50
had his plan already he has his plan
17:52
about how to get away with it and um he
17:56
just start running on the street and he
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started screaming in Spanish saying
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somebody's robbing me so was robbing me
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which is not true because he was the
18:04
other one trying to get his own
18:06
phone and uh well to to cut the long
18:09
story short he he he he made a big case
18:13
here out of robbery you could understand
18:15
the place didn't even underst understand
18:16
the clue because when the play that goes
18:18
there who do you trust you know
18:20
who now one way or the other he
18:22
denounced the English that he was
18:26
pushing and and stealing and whatever
18:30
which it was not true probably sometimes
18:32
the police get upset with this situation
18:35
and they don't trust initially the
18:37
tourist no you know especially because
18:40
you're drunk because because you know
18:41
and they don't trust they say well these
18:43
people are still making a big case out
18:47
stopped uh thinking that the right
18:50
person was the other one yeah sure
18:52
unless it's a repeat offender someone
18:54
that they know they put into jail they
18:56
put into jail they so they arrested
18:59
he couldn't pretty much explain well
19:01
enough because we was a little bit drunk
19:03
and and uh not knowing the language
19:05
until the translator goes and whatever
19:07
you know sometimes police they made
19:08
their mind because they the other guy
19:11
convince him yeah sure so so he end up
19:14
arrested in swimming in in flippers uh
19:17
the whole night the friends were just
19:21
saying what's going on
19:22
here um the phone disappear yeah you
19:26
could imagine the phone disappear they
19:28
didn't because they couldn't understand
19:29
so where is phone and you know you just
19:31
hide it and um so they removed their
19:36
passport they couldn't go back to the
19:38
UK and we had a um quio Rapido which is
19:43
like a a trial mhm about the whole
19:46
case well how so unfortunate plus it was
19:50
a flood so they couldn't do anything
19:52
they couldn't go for a s they couldn't
19:53
do because you know remember in
19:54
September we always get these floods and
19:59
um the the floods in in South inia all
20:02
these that we had that that was the same
20:04
year right yeah yeah which it was a
20:06
chaos so they they said this is the
20:09
worst experience ever in my life I don't
20:11
know whether they're going to come back
20:12
to Spain but uh so he took him one week
20:15
they need to send their parents um
20:17
family over here no passport no no money
20:21
no you know and we had a trial so they
20:24
contact us from the UK to represent them
20:28
and then we end up uh having uh the the
20:32
venom and um obviously they released
20:35
them we just uh made the the the the
20:40
story with with the judge and well we
20:42
explain everything and that and they
20:44
relas and funny enough he found the
20:48
iPhone later on and um it was given we
20:52
don't know why okay um the police
20:55
station uh got it back so I don't know
20:57
whether these guy already said another
21:00
story to the police and say well this is
21:01
lost or whatever who
21:03
knows so this is sometimes kind of the
21:07
cases that you end up dealing that it's
21:09
a bit crazy yeah sure to believe and and
21:13
everything's against you moody
21:14
everything is against you well yes I
21:15
mean they'll often get the blame but
21:16
it's maybe not always their fault no no
21:19
no no and uh sometimes you are you are
21:22
not lucky just's put it this way
21:24
sometimes if you are in the wrong place
21:26
the wrong day it could be expensive yeah
21:29
yeah you know even though you did
21:31
nothing yeah and there's a lot of them
21:32
doing that as well coming over it's it's
21:34
cheaper sometimes to come to Spain um
21:36
for a night out with the flights and all
21:38
than it is to go out in in the UK yeah
21:41
down spoons too expensive it was I think
21:43
it was very cheap to come from from the
21:46
UK they say it's like let's go on
21:48
holidays for two days drink and you know
21:50
have a good time you know that about
21:54
um but but but they were so unfortunate
21:57
and and I just just was thinking that
21:59
when you get your mobile
22:02
stolen you know it's very difficult to
22:05
to first to find it second to prove
22:09
who's who's got it yeah and um because
22:14
you you're going to end up into a fight
22:16
because you're going to go and say to
22:17
the other guy well you've got my phone
22:19
and say no I don't have it so you ring
22:21
the police but you better explain
22:22
yourself good enough cuz if they twist
22:25
the story yeah yeah if the other guy can
22:28
so it's very important having let's put
22:30
it this way proper translat translators
22:33
at the time mhm yeah quite I like those
22:36
stories where someone steals a phone and
22:38
then they start taking selfies and it
22:39
gets uploaded to the the cloud
22:41
automatically the owners oh yeah yeah so
22:43
they just right you know full full on
22:46
photo of them who the GU taking that
22:49
yeah yeah let's talk some more in just a
22:50
moment ttho was here from pay radio it's
22:53
almost 10 to 11 Mainland
22:55
Spain you're listening to Bay radio with
22:59
all due respect to uh Sam Smith and
23:01
Calvin Harris you've heard this before
23:02
and we need to get on because running
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out of time with ignio from pay ready up
23:05
you're International lawers based on the
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Costa Blanca can travel a little bit
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further abroad as well like Poland where
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Pedro is at the moment um and just sort
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of wrapping up about what what did you
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want to mention just no just uh about
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the special tax regime um the Beckham
23:22
law they call the noral Visa that a lot
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of people say um and they mix it you
23:28
know there is that's not the same though
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is it no it's not the same the same
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thing even though you can apply I mean
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for for those who are thinking or
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working remotely for a company abroad or
23:40
company um then they could apply for the
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Visa okay for those who are non-
23:48
citizens if you are European you get
23:51
your residency card fine but on Second
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Stage if you want to benefit from the
23:56
special tax regime then you need to make
23:59
a formal application so my
24:00
recommendation is to do tax planning how
24:02
much money you could save on the special
24:06
tax regime for working for workers
24:10
remotely uh remotely so what did he do
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then because it's when he went to Real
24:13
Madrid right DAV Beckham is what set the
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law so what he he went to Real Madrid
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first and then after afterwards when the
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law was created and he was the first
24:25
forer who applied for it but that was
24:28
the original Beckham law MH this has
24:30
been modifying now so in the old Beckham
24:34
law it had different time scales
24:36
different issues but you had to work for
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a Spanish company okay right but but now
24:42
you don't have to work for Spanish
24:44
company you could work remotely for any
24:48
company which is very very good because
24:51
you could be working remotely for Google
24:53
for you know Facebook for for a lot of
24:56
people instead of working from Ireland
24:58
for example from from different places
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they come over here and they they apply
25:04
for the special tax regime so could a
25:06
European apply for this yes could a
25:08
Spanish apply for it yes but as long as
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they haven't been tax resident in the
25:12
previous five years five years right in
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the old days the old Beckham law was 10
25:17
years M and he was only Spanish
25:19
companies now he's all kind of companies
25:23
but was he able to do that at the time
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because um Britain was in the EU did
25:27
make any difference what do you mean
25:29
with David Beckham because he was see
25:31
British um they were within the EU at
25:34
the time yeah at the at the time it was
25:35
it was nothing to do with that but the
25:37
law didn't exist no sure so working
25:40
being a forigner coming um not being tax
25:44
raised him for more than t 10 years and
25:47
working for a Spanish company I see they
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gave him a special a special tax regim
25:52
okay 24% yeah so that was created after
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David beckon came and he was the first
25:58
one who applied for that yeah and that's
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what it's called the Beckham law but now
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amended uh with the startup law yes and
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now it is more International let's call
26:10
it now is you could work all around the
26:13
world pay taxes in Spain the beauty of
26:15
it Moody is you only pay in Spain for
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your income so if you're selling
26:20
properties in your own country if you're
26:23
doing different activities in your own
26:24
country if you're having dividends in
26:27
you don't pay taxes here you only pay
26:29
24% of your salary here in Spain I see
26:32
so that gives you a special tax regime
26:35
MH you're like a resident but you don't
26:38
pay like a resident you pay less than a
26:40
resident and not for worldwide assets
26:42
only for salary okay so it's it's it's
26:45
good for those who are paying a lot of
26:47
money in tax and they could work
26:49
remotely and they haven't been tax regid
26:51
in Spain and I think if they could
26:53
benefit I think they should go for it
26:55
all right well it might be worth getting
26:57
into in touch if anyone's interested
26:58
might Peak a few people's interest and
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of course there is The Nomad Visa as
27:02
well which is slightly different how's
27:03
that going is it yeah is is going very
27:05
well few more going through now now we
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having a lot of yeah now they are
27:10
they're already up and running all of
27:13
them you know it takes time but we are
27:15
smoother now everybody the
27:17
administrations then we know what they
27:19
want and we're very accurate and uh is
27:22
working very well it's working very well
27:24
Spain one of the most popular countries
27:26
that people want to come to
27:28
yeah well look at the weather now isn't
27:30
it but it's too too warm though for yeah
27:32
we don't want this yet no not ready for
27:34
it yet yeah I know all right we're just
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about out of time then so thank you as
27:38
always for your time um we'll see you
27:40
we'll see you in a couple of weeks time
27:41
and that will be the day of the the
27:43
webinar yeah the webinar I thing we're
27:44
holding it on the 28th 28th that's two
27:46
weeks time yeah y yeah so we'll see you
27:48
then okay enjoy the rest of Valentine's
27:50
Day when meetings I'm sure it's very
27:53
romantic have a good one and uh yeah
27:55
we'll see you in a fortnite's time
27:58
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