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00:00 Elsa's Journey into Trading
02:02 Challenges and Overcoming Them
05:17 Core Principles in Trading
07:53 Staying Up to Date with Market Trends
10:35 Analyzing Charts and Technical Methods
17:02 The Role of Market Psychology
20:33 Managing Risk at Portfolio and Position Level
22:46 Setbacks and Breakthroughs in Trading
25:16 The Importance of Realistic Expectations
27:04 Successful Trade Example and Lessons Learned
34:29 The Time and Effort Required for Trading Success
38:21 The Future of Trading and Elsa's Goals
39:31 Unique Insight for Trading Success
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hi Elsa I'm so excited to uh chat with you today how did you get into this crazy crazy trading game uh yeah thanks
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for having me I'm excited to talk theia I started getting interested back in
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2019 um I slipped at home and um thought that I was going to do something in real
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estate I really enjoyed that and I was looking for more information on that and
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I started reading books and one of those books was which Dad Poor Dad I wrote
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Kaki and love him or hate him he's the guy that got me excited about um
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investing and about cash flow and he had a financial advisor Andy Tanner or has
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and he teaches a course um on investing in trading that I show up called Cash Flow Academy so um that's where I
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learned how to the basics of trading and risk management and it was actually a
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really big foundation for me I highly recommend it and then after that I just started I became LED and started reading
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all the looks that I could find I'm tring and here I am that's great yeah I
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started in a similar manner I got got some books by Warren Buffett and then
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although that was all investing right so I'm like oh yeah I'm going to do investing investing and then you know I'm a slow learner apparently and uh you
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know I started investing I'm like you know what this takes a lot of time and it's not really my style So eventually I
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came to the trading too so you were a lot smarter than I and uh got right to it apparently well I read lots of books
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on I gotam too um and for most people that's my Rick head M say you know
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trading is a really hard game but it's what I enjoy and it's what I love that's a really good point if if you're
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listening to this and you are a Trader you're uh insane right because anyone who's been there know you got to be
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somewhat crazy to do this for sure yeah 100 100% um okay so then you know
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starting off what were some of your biggest challenges that you face and how did you overcome them uh biggest
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challenges well in the beginning well the I don't have any Financial background so I was starting from Ground
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Zero when I got into this so when I started reading these books it was like learning a foreign language I did not
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understand anything and you know when I'd look at a chart I had no idea what I was looking at so that was my greatest
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challenge in the beginning was just figuring out the lingo and training my
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eye to read the charts but but I just told myself like it's all just a matter
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of time it's all about the time I put into it eventually it's going to click and it's going to make sense and and I'll figure it out a couple years prior
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I had learned how key and in the beginning I totally sucked and so I I
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reflected on that experience as I was learning how a trade like you're going to fall down you're going house builds
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you're going to mess up but you just go through the r you know the ti in and the maining is just staying alive you know
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you know not ricking to leg being able to continue to come back the next day and and so I refocus
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onement a outside and just surviving and I'm still kind of you know be Hest I'm
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still I'm still worrying and I'm still trying to improve on that but the main
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thing is when you're first rning and starting out is not making money it's just staying alive and not blowing up
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here that I love this the analogy I was going to say yeah and absolutely break some bones but you you uh you mentioned
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that so that was definitely accurate um but yeah I think it's absolutely about staying alive and anyone who doesn't
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matter how long you've been in a game there's always more to learn and I think that's one of the allures at least for me um I view it as this like big
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beautiful puzzle it's sort of like a video game that you're kind of like um you know always able to kind of learn
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some more or improve at so for sure like yeah you can always improve and there's always risk you know especially in
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extreme sports you know and and things like skiing it's like doesn't matter how long you've been doing it you're still
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at risk for an injury you know how so do you still ski you still
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ski yeah oh yeah oh that's awesome what are some of the core principles that guide your trading decisions I'm very
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much a trend follower um I'm always looking for lowrisk high probability lowrisk you
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know H War setups so asymmetrical sets um and really I'm just looking for to
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stack the probabilities in my favor and with the least amount of risk okay so do
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you use uh just charts to look at that or themes um you know it's interesting
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when you were posting some of your uh charts and some of your trades it was
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also in line with uh the commitment of Traders reports I don't know if you use any of that type of stuff positioning I
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was like huh this is this is interesting I wonder where uh no now I did uh
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subscribe to I D back in like 2001 2002
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and um I love I but you know I was reading uh O'Neal at the time and got
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really into can slim and was trying to F some fundamentals and technicals at
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the same time and then of course you know it was just perfect timing 2022
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happened and I was here I was trying to trade breakouts in a big market and it
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just didn't work and I lost of money that was super frustrating first I
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stopped trading for about 6 months to kind of regroup and to get the courage to try again so after that I stopped
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really looking at the fundamentals as I put a greater emphasis on performance and just sat and I just look for things
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and I look for what's aform I had to say that I do where I'm multile watch list
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for different Industries not not just the setor was the industry every day
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that's part of my routine I go through and review the industries and how they're how they perform and I look at
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all Ty things so I just kind of try to stack you know as much favorable things
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in my favor yeah no I think it's great yeah I feel like um at least for me there's sort of like when you first
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start trading you kind of like set up this is a breakout this is all I need to trade right and then you get hit with
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the bare market like wait a second I need to like understand the themes and the market and and all that other stuff
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so I feel like you sort of have to un you know to peel the onion back so to speak uh so it sounds like you're
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definitely looking at themes and and you have like um like how do you understand if you're like in a good Market or a bad
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Market I think you hit on it in Twitter but just uh you could elaborate if I a
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good Market or a bad Market well uh you said trades are working as I'm getting
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trashed in if my trades are working out I know that I can out a little bit more exposure and if things aren't working
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and a lot my decisions are need SED out I def my exposure so I just kind of love
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the market tell me what to do and I just take that feedback yeah yeah it's funny because
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what you're saying is simple but it's not easy you know what I mean that's that's thing totally simple in theory
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yes but then you throw in you know our humanness and the risk and the greed and
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it's really a school yeah yeah 100% absolutely um so in regards to you know the
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humanness um do you use any intuition in your trading or how how do you go about
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that I probably use about as much intuition in my training as I do in my
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skiing or riding a bike or whatever I mean I think there's some of it now that I don't even I'm not even consciously
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aware of you know I mean like I just I look at each chart and I think this feels good it's like there's something
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that tells me or say it is about and it was like the part of me and that can recognize that sometimes even before I'm
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fully cautious of it it's like yeah I don't know but I so I do I am a discretionary Traer I do have a system
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but there is a lot of discretion that's involved and this from his intuition I
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like his look at the chart and I try not to trade what I think I L as a being and
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that's cool yeah yeah no no that that's great and then in regards to
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uh the charts what exactly are you looking at you know do you have certain indicators that you use you know what technical methods essentially are you uh
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using computer training it it's super simple I mean if you see my sharts on Twitter they're they're pretty basic I'm
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looking at Price action mostly and I Tre company handle breakouts you know flat
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bases I'm looking for you know things coming out of stage one um I do do like
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stage analysis so I like to stage two s that's great and then for the audience
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can you explain uh stage stage analysis briefly uh yeah so after my uh little
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hit up in 2022 trying to do can slim training the break ABS in the be Market
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I read Stam weins how to profit in Baron bu Marcus or whatever they that bookus
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and um he talk he teaches Sunday Hall stage analysis essentially
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um he he goes through like the the maturity of a of a stock and
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there's you know High probable times to get in and then there's riskier times to get in and so it's hard to explain it
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without a chart in front of me to show it but essentially I'm trying to get in
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when a stock is breaking out consolation and where there's a lot of upside um I'm
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not trying to buy a Bop I'm you every company aof chart whereever goes through
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cyles as seasons and there's ideal times to buy ideal SI to sell and the IDE I'm
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to buy is breaking out of the St up in the sieg to I wish I had a fure show or
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a trick yeah I'll I'll link something in the description do you also have any
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other indicators or intuition points to determine you know where the market cycle is just to kind of give you an
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example for me I know when I have a lot of open positions I'm probably going to have a draw down uh because you know
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once I get to that level of uh you know open positions you know we've we moved up quite a bit uh so that's sort of one
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of my uh personal indicat I just curious if you have anything like that yeah yeah
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once I start seeing you know I've got I'm I'm making profits I'm making
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traction and things are expanded it's person spended the i in heading anticipate there's probably going to be
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a little bit of a fullback there's going to be some dig question and you know I st that um but as far as like where the
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market is at I have the belief that you know there are cyes of seasons and
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there's always something there's always something that's doing well so I just look for as why I don't just like narrow
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in on Tech liting temperatures I like to look at everything so when there are
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those pullbacks in those top leading Industries I know where money is flowing
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and what things are doing well and I can take advantage of that yeah that's
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fantastic it makes a lot of sense that's great okay so in regards to
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um you know staying up to date with the latest market trends and news do you follow any like news-based trading or is
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it strictly you know charts and performance no no i s to stay away from
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news article in my experience it's always in the charts first the charts
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tell the news before the News tells the the news so I remember a high school teacher telling us one time like if you
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ever want to know the truth about something follow the money and that's true with trading like if you want to
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know you know where things are going to go just look at the charts and then the
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news will come out like I've just seen it over and over again you'll see a theme you know when there's you know BR
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ofs all moving the same way or behaving the same way or similarly I know some
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things out it's like none of us are far enough to know none of us have The Insider information the best Insider
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information is seriously the market and the charts not as as it's going to get in my experience when I deci to like
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tell the future or you know what I mean like anticipate like future events I'm usually wrong like I don't know the
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future and you can you know think about it you know what's long Ling current
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events right now and you can think that you know what's in happen next but the
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reality is none of us do and the Chucks will show first yeah for sure it's a lot easier it took me some time but it's a
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lot easier to react and to predict right um okay so then uh can you walk us
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through one of your most recent trades and when you're talking about a breakup you know maybe from a head and shoulders
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you have like defined entry criteria and and things like that where you put your stop and I I'd like to trade pull packs
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off the the moving the main moving averages is um and then I will if I'm trading that kind of a setup I will just
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put my stop right under you know that low is low and once it hits resistance I
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might trim some and S some there resistance when you say resistance um you know what are you looking for in
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resistance uh so I'm just looking at a fre press action like on a like base I'm
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just looking has been rejected in the past over and over again so I'm anticipating that that there's a
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possibility if G didn't get SW so for that reason with these of
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setups I like to Evol full position from the N keep a short tight B stop loss and
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then sh as soon as he gets to resistance and then if it breaks out right and it doesn't at least you know drop in so by
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off so that's think you're reading those any as far as breakouts go kind of same
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thing I like to start with a full position and then if it comes back to an
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entry point my twim um there's usually a cold bath after it break out is not
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complicated yeah yeah yeah no getting in the right the right stocks in the right markets complicated and and managing
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your emotions are complicated the setup for sure the emotional part the psychology is the hard part and there's
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no way that you can get around that I mean there are there risk management is you get around it position sizing is how
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you get around it but you're always going to have fear and greed yeah if
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you're desate the market will sense it your positions you fre will show it and so you just cut as stay as higher as you
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can so how do you manage risk from a portfolio level then and a position level you know what's your risk
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management because obviously we can't get away from it um how do you manage it well it's kind of like I was saying
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earlier if I'm having a lot of success I keep adding I keep add by exposure and I
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don't add to existing phans and this is what some people disagree with me on and
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they hate I TR too much I prefer to open a new position as opposed to I in my
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previous position it's just is word up for me and from my experiences I like
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your first entry is always the best entry and so that's why I like to go B
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IND and yeah I will just start a new position in the C in the same industry or in a similar
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group thing if I'm get traction with the name or whatever and I'll just keep
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adding to my exposure there and then if things start getting sped out then I'm
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naturally just bump back in a hatch the downside AG Thea if by E curve reaches
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like a certain am level 12% I that's kind of my conquer so you know like I
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don't want to have draw Downs really more than that so I do was the P now but
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I I try to handle by position and agree with you there um adding to positions is
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challenging because you need to also wait for a setup you can't just indiscriminately add to a position that's moving up right you gota wait for
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it to set up again which takes time and so yeah why I prefer to just put my
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money into a totally different fresh position right right yeah so um you know it
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sounds like um so far you've had a pretty good trading Journey um you know what are some of the uh you know
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setbacks or you know the skiing incidents that maybe you had that you could share with us yeah I mean it's
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rough it's not easy it hasn't did smooth I mean I might make it look like that but yeah 2022 was hard and I've been
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able to you know come back from that form that cup you know in My Equity curve and then I was getting a lot of
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traction in the fall winter spring spring was really though this spring was
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really good for I think everybody cuz the market was good and I was in energy which you know a lot of people want to
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trade but um that's how I made a lot of that money was in energy and April was
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tough there was a pull back there and I just kind of been consolidating it's kind of been tricky this summer you know
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so I'm not just like killing it like I'm doing by enough on but it's a struggle
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it's always a struggle you always go fight for it it doesn't have but I'm just protecting that downside for my fit
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you know now has there been any like breakthroughs and this is kind of my follow-up question after you know you
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had some of the challenges earlier um were there any specific breakthroughs you had like and Incorporated this into
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your trading to to maybe get that get you up to the next level so to speak uh
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yeah so one of the books that I really like is training The Zone by Mark Douglas and
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he suggested there to um do the 20 trade experiment and that really helped me um
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keeping track of my average loss my average gain and and knowing really
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what's realistic to expect from from my positions because here it was you know when I began trading I was wanting the
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home runs you know I was wanting these 10 BS 100 BS whatever I was I was wi to
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finded inidan you know really I found that it's notan that's great when you
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find that but as a Trader um I'm working on a different time frame so what's
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realistic within my time frames is not for some to 10x you know like 30% gain
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would be you know would be nice I I that's all I need you know if I just
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stack those up if I'm getting 15 20 30% G and I'm cutting my losses you know at
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3 to 5% that's all I need and you just keep doing that over and over again um I'm
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not trying I mean I am trying I'm trying to find the best set if I can find and
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the biggest winner if I can find keeping Cho on my trades is help me understand what's realistic to expect and also just
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knowing where to take gains and where to cut losses sure sure yeah can you um can
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you share a specific example of uh you know successful trade and maybe what you learned from it
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yeah so my most current trade was greenber Partners they're home builder
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and I found them by um looking at different shies and I noticed that they
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were breaking out of the stage to isolation there was potential that they
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you know could break out of and I don't think a lot of people were
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watching them you know a lot of people right are interested in Ai and semiconductors and they're not looking
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at the they're not looking they they're not looking at the
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Historical charts you know some people they don't like to do that I don't understand why I don't know why people
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don't like an AFCO CH but like TI water they're another one CCO tcj I know these
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cop by their tickers they were all mafro plays that I
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was watching on big time frames and a lot of people are just looking at the
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the most you know immediate data or whatever it was immediate CH I found that the more time frames that you can
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have stacked in your favor the better the biggest moves can be no that's great
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yeah it's actually kind of refreshing because I'm on Twitter and I have like Tesla Nvidia paler all of these and then
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all of a sudden you're showing you know Green bit Partners I'm like okay this is interesting and then that's kind of one
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of those things that that made me reach out to you because you are you're sharing uh ideas that you believe in and
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not just hering you know but what else is out there which I think sometimes that concerns me well in the beginning
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it concerned me right I'm like why is no one else talking about these or why now
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it doesn't bother me whatever I don't care like I don't want to be in those Tru you know after reading ST say book
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on stage analysis you know and really understanding the supplying demand and
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and how that all works like I have no desire to be in those stat
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things you know what I mean yeah let them have them no no that's great that's great um
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okay um so it's funny because I was going to ask for you know some advice for you know aspiring traders in some of
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the books uh but it sounds like uh you know Stan should be sending you a check for uh for for all the kind words that
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you're saying uh regarding stage analysis huh I didn't love that look it's generally helpful and it's another
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one of those things that's so simple and de so simple and de
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not just is like rocket science but it's
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difficult to I think the hardest part for sping Traders and for myself is just
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Why to make money right away and was this something that takes patience
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that's not how you make money you don't make it inai you don't make it you
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know like that so it just takes time it just takes time and for B to sale and for the
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to own you does it all day time that's the hard of part and not everyone has time you know like learning to trade you
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have to have a lot of time where you're not making money and being able to live without making money and a lot of people
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can do this because right yeah that's the biggest obstacle time and obviously money to
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begin yeah for sure yeah I find it interesting um uh a lot of people want to become
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Traders but they're not willing to do the work I mean how many of them are checking out their charts every day how many of them are journaling and all of
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that and the truth is if you want to really do well I think you have to take your approach and really take a broad
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look at the market understand where money is flowing and and do it day in and day out and I guess um you know
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taking it back a step where you said um to an early part of our conversation about you know having an eye for it I'm
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assuming you know that's kind of what's giving you that quote unquote ey for for chart right just seeing so many of them
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right yeah I spent a lot of time if you ask my my kid or you know any M
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numbers yeah I spend a lot of time looking at charts and you have to my
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brother think I'm crazy he's like why like I don't understand why do you like do that I don't know either I don't know
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why I love it but I spent a lot of time doing it and that's what makes me good at it one of the things that helped me
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actually in the beginning was scalping a little bit working on those smaller tile trains seeing how price moves what can
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happen and that that helps me with power recognition stoping actually did so some
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people recommend paper training starting now I would recommend just using a
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little bit of money and sell and watching you know something like you
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know the hes or something so spy or something and just
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watching those trks are SW that help train a lot when I first started reading
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the books and I was like looking at the pictures that the diam that they had there it's really difficult for me to
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put it all together but um yeah nothing can make up for that screen time you got
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to have you got to sit there and you got to watch those tiers and not a lot of people want to do that and when people
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come to me and ask me to teach them how to trade you know the book and they
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don't want to read a book or they don't understand lingo it's like you got to really want it you got to really enjoy
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it there's no way to do it with without doing that
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without yeah and I guess um you know in regards to uh the amount of time you are
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looking at charts and maybe you know it's different now than than uh was previously but you know what do you
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think is you know a Trader or a new Trader needs to spend on a daily or weekly basis looking at charts and this
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could not be this maybe this isn't you maybe this is some other Trader we W you know we won't put any names you know but
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uh yeah I'd say this I'd say this if you're meant to be a traitor you won't be asking that
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question because you'll want to look at tur it's not just like oh okay you know
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listen I need to do five hours a day looking at turs and it's like you know send a time no it's like I look at these
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when I'm going to bed I look at these when I wake up I look at them all the time I'm looking on my phone looking on
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my iPad I'm obsessed is it healthy I don't know like I don't know like you have to be
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kind of crazy to to want to do it and maybe you don't have to be like me maybe you don't have to do it that
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much but like yeah I I think if you want to be a discretionary trador you have to
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have in the nicest way because I'm in the same camp maybe a few screws loose just because you really have to put in a
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lot of work for like no pay and make a lot of you know sacrifices with your
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time to to come up with this potential goal that that may never be realized I mean if if you want to make money if
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you're not into trading if you want to make money go start a business don't just start trading you know start start
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trading if you can't do anything else but trade and you'll under and case in point what you just said right right
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yeah so yeah my boyfriend he's like yeah some people have me or scroll on phone I
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use scroll my phone you know I'm on Twitter a lot x a lot but I'm talking about trating I'm posting charts and I I
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look at charts that's what my is say watching TV so if that's one's fun of you trading my for you if
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it's but like yeah I'm making sacrifices of my time there's other things that I don't do because I'm yeah we're get need
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the market no that's great that's great okay um so um you know kind of I know we
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already talked about the four stages but are there any other uh books courses or websites that you'd recommend for
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learning trading so like I said I started out with inders cast spell academy and that was really great
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because that helped me understand the risk management really well but also in
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the beginning I think a good beginner book is the rule by Larry height that's did like a level and I really like um
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high probability traing by more Sol link but it's not P but for Indie gamer that's a that's a
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really good place to start and he talks about you know what to expect and what
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you need to make it as a trailer unfortunately I didn't read it when I first started out I just found it and I
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wish that I had had it when I was first starting out I um began actually with Mark M's books and those were a good
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place to start too he really you know it's he really he on the importance of
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PR your losses at half hour and talks about the Vol faction patterns and and
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what to for and then he's on set which is great so I highly recommend all those
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everyone knows that far me never for people about this very but I really recommend that
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in that's great thank you um okay so what about um you know the future of
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trading and where do you see yourself in the you know the next 5 to 10 years well they say right they say that
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it takes like five to seven years to really be successful and I've been doing
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it for far so I'm hoping I'm hoping that I continue to improve and get better I
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can't see as he do any else so if this doesn't work out I'm not as a you know person but I think I think I'll always
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be involved in a market I don't know I can't I can't fix myself to anything else I love it and I'm just continue to
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work on getting better and improving I don't really have like any bows to you
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know by L bees or anything but just continue trading just to stay alive yeah
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no no that's great perfect okay and then finally is there any unique Insight or
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you know I like to call them Alpha drop or something critical to your trading success it's not widely known or
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discussed um my strategy of just reviewing the market every day L PR by
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was list the different Industries I feel like that's not many people do that and
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I think that that's really important even if you're not interested in in those companies or whatever to Red do
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the performance of what is performing within each industry so when things change you can kind of have a feel of
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where to look next you know so for me I guess that's it I mean it's not anything
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mindling but how different watch list for different industry and review that
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regularly and review performance I go through on the weekends and I review the
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top performing stop for that week for the month for and if I see my there's a
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big change in the market you know something's changing losing traction if
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my else going out or this phone now whatever you need to regular regularly
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review what changes have taken how things are per I hate
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this you know you know the top perform is a f
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last and I S stay um okay and then do you have any
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final thoughts uh or messages for listeners final thoughts or message trading is not easy it's hard
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and you have to really want it to to be successful at end unfortunately it's not
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as glamorous as people make it out to be it's really not like there's long periods where you're not making any
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money and it's not consistent the market is never going to need consistency that
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you are you create you have to be the consistency your strategy has to be the
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consistency and I guess that's my advice yeah you have to be consistent on the it
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will never give that to you ever right right yeah have realistic
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expectations you see I see yeah yeah it's not this glamorous I think like I
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know some really good Traders and you know they're not living glamorous Lifestyles and they're phenomenal
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Traders um I mean they're doing well but it's not what's commonly thought of when
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you think professional Trader you know like not all Traders are living in
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mansions and dying Lamborghinis I mean they're May might be wealthy but it's
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not like you wouldn't suspect a lot of traders to be as successful as there are
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if you were me street you know like it's not it's not GL lifestyle I'm looking at charts all day it's very n yeah yeah no
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I hear you it's one of the things where you know one of the things that on probably in the top three that I least
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enjoy is having to pull money out of my trading account right it's like it's infuriating so whatever it is or
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whatever purchase it's just you know because we're there to trade I and I think you know it's this interview sort
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of encapsulates you know successful Traders have to have a passion for trading and and you embody that so why
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in the world would you wouldn't take money out of your trading account right no you want to keep growing it for sure
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yeah if you're trading to make money so you can buy a watch or a car or whatever
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you know latest thing is you're not more like you have to want to you have to
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like the game you have to like the process and that's that of being the reward for you in order to continue to
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goow keep stacking you have to like the game not just the end result for the r
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that you're wanting to create yeah no I think I think that's awesome okay perfect with that we'll wrap up Elsa I
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really appreciate you today I think you've been phenomenal and uh can't wait to chat with you again okay this is
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super fun thanks for talking with
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