WATCH: Reverend Stephen Kuhrt discusses good and evil on Easter Sunday

You wanted to talk about, in this hour, about how we find the strength to go on after, I mean, terrible times, after tragedy, I guess in Jesus Christ's case, the literal strength to resurrect after being crucified

But we can adopt those same lessons in our own lives. Well, it does fascinate me. I think the thing that makes me a Christian more than anything is when I see people who've been through horrendous times, terrible things have happened

and somehow they find the power to not turn inwards but to actually turn outwards and keep showing love

and to keep trying to make a difference to other people's lives. That's quite a hard thing to explain, actually, how that happens

And to me, the Christian explanation is the one that I personally find most convincing

that actually God himself has sent his love into the world to conquer the power of evil

so that people are enabled to do that. And Christians believe that the resurrection of Jesus Christ

indicated that something had changed in the world forever, that a power was now available which we can tap into

and can be part of our lives. What's your definition of God

Well, I think God is understood as distinct from this world, shouldn't be confused with it, shouldn't be blurred in with it

and yet the Christian understanding of God is that God is still intimately involved in this world

So quite a lot of religions want to do one or the other, either make God totally distinct from this world, but therefore fairly distant, fairly separate

you can't know him personally, or they want to, at the other extreme

merge God in with the world, what's called pantheism, where they're more or less identical

Is that the idea that God lives within us? Well I think the Christian answer is trying to do both is trying to have its cake and eat it as it were by saying that God is distinct from this world but is intimately involved in it We can know him as father We can know him personally We can have a relationship with him So that quite a complex understanding of God that Christians

have. Jews have the same understanding of God, really, without necessarily understanding that

God has come close to us in Jesus Christ. So that's the understanding of God, which I have

And the wonderful thing for me is that I can have a personal relationship with that God

I can draw on his power. I can do stuff not through anything to do with me or anything that's particularly noteworthy about me

but God, the power of his love, can work through human beings, particularly flawed ones who mess it up

which includes me as much as anyone. All of us, I guess, we can put into that one

Final question. There is this narrative, and I've covered it before on this channel, especially over Christmas when you see signs such as winter, world delights, holiday magic without the word of Jesus or Christ, anywhere

Is this narrative, is this feeling that Christianity is somehow under attack in the UK

Do you give any weight to that? I want to be careful on this because for a long time, Christianity had a privileged position in this country where

and Christianity, the Christian church was guilty of dishing out a lot of persecution and not behaving terribly well

So I think there's been quite a strong reaction against that, which we're still in. So I don't want to bleat too much

You know, if people give the church a good kicking, then we should be able to cope with that

And, you know, if we have to win the right for people to listen to our message, that's no bad thing

I don't want to go back to the days when there's uncritical deference, when people tug their forelock to the vicar, you know

I want people to listen to the message that we're saying and evaluate whether they think that's serious or not

So certainly in this country, I don't think Christians are given too tough a time

There are other parts of the world where they really are being persecuted. And they need our support big time

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